BvS The Batsuit Thread - - - - - - Part 29

[Boom]

I do think it's the light reflecting off the steel surface of the knuckle that is giving it a bronze look.

 

[Jekecy]

I missed the ruckus, but did people apologize for chastising that one fanboy cosplayer who first claimed the bronze accents? At the very least as the promo art showcases it, he was right.

 

[BatScot]

#statuegate

 

[BatScot]

All I've said is, even though the statue they made to represent the suit is molded of a screen used suit. It does not mean the finish (color) is exactly like the screen used suits. By that, IMO, you can't take face value by something that is not used in the movie, you go by something that is used in the movie. And we have the picture of the suit from the batcave and the trailer showing a consistent look.

I believe what I see on the photos from the movie itself more than a statue made for promotion use.

Genuine question... are you saying only the trailer is a valid reference point and that the statue and concept art should be set aside? Because if you are then I'm with the "I don't see bronze" in the trailer camp. That there is bronze in the concept art is self evident and the evidence for bronze on the statue is compelling but a reflection off a knuckle is not.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Ahh for ****s sake...more color talk.

Are people still debating the colour?

 

[KillerWolf]

Are people still debating the colour?

Yup. t:

Anyway, though I've always disliked the idea of Batman's mech-suit and am not particularly fond of one from BvS, I must say that leaked concept art of mech-suit convinced me of one thing - Cyborg is going to look great.

 

[Proximo]

Genuine question... are you saying only the trailer is a valid reference point and that the statue and concept art should be set aside? Because if you are then I'm with the "I don't see bronze" in the trailer camp. That there is bronze in the concept art is self evident and the evidence for bronze on the statue is compelling but a reflection off a knuckle is not.

No but to me it is more logical to go by the actual suit from the movie rather than a promotion statue, a respresentation of the suit that may not be 100% accurate for whatever reason. Everyone else is entitled to their opinion. I try to be as open minded as possible and look at it from several perspectives.

The way I see it. I see bronze on the concept art and I see some bronze on the thumb knuckle (not anywhere else) from a photo on set and the trailer versus a promotion statue that is all black in those areas.

 

[Enriquespy]

Lets make bronce fins that say "Damaged" and that turn into the batwing.

 

[Mr. Finger]

http://ironheadstudio.com/

They created the new Superman suit and Batsuit for BvS under Jose Fernandez, a legend in the industry.

For the record.. Ironhead had nothing to do with the Superman suit for BvS..
The work was done by Film Illusions, owned by Russ S.
You can ask that "friend" of yours, and he will tell you.

Film Illusions was involved with MoS.. Creating the female Kryptonian armor.
And for MoS the Superman suit, and Black fabric/muscle suits were created by Frontline..
Jor-El's non fighting armor by Ironhead.

Ironhead was only involved with Batman and Wonder Woman for BvS..

 

[Proximo]

For the record.. Ironhead had nothing to do with the Superman suit for BvS..
The work was done by Film Illusions, owned by Russ S.
You can ask that "friend" of yours, and he will tell you.

Film Illusions was involved with MoS.. Creating the female Kryptonian armor.
And for MoS the Superman suit, and Black fabric/muscle suits were created by Frontline..
Jor-El's non fighting armor by Ironhead.

Ironhead was only involved with Batman and Wonder Woman for BvS..

Aha ok.

 

[Mr. Finger]

That's a fiberglass statue. Not a film used costume. Your point being?

Are you sure? I think that when someone takes the tour, they need to walk up to that Bat suit and poke it.. I am betting that the suit may be soft.. And not fiberglass , like the body form underneath it.

 

[Proximo]

Are you sure? I think that when someone takes the tour, they need to walk up to that Bat suit and poke it.. I am betting that the suit may be soft.. And not fiberglass , like the body form underneath it.

One of your colleagues said otherwise.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

I missed the ruckus, but did people apologize for chastising that one fanboy cosplayer who first claimed the bronze accents? At the very least as the promo art showcases it, he was right.

Nah, they just changed their tune to chastising him for using bright bronze instead of something subtle. Though the bright bronze baffled me the whole time (since common sense says that bright bronze just wouldn't be on the suit), I at least give credit to the cosplayer for striving for accuracy.

 

[Mr. Finger]

One of your colleagues said otherwise.

Nah.. Just familiar with casting and seaming fiberglass props and the like.
If that is a hard cast statue, and came out of a mold?
That is the most amazing seam and cosmetic touch up work that I have seen.
I see no seams at all..
If it is a hard statue? I want one..
Ask that friend again..

 

[Proximo]

Nah.. Just familiar with casting and seaming fiberglass props and the like.
If that is a hard cast statue, and came out of a mold?
That is the most amazing seam and cosmetic touch up work that I have seen.
I see no seams at all..
If it is a hard statue? I want one..
Ask that friend again..

I don't have to unless I missunderstood him. But based on what I was told the whole thing is fiberglass..
How it was put together I have no idea..
But he explained a mold was made off the suit that was placed on a form for the statues and that several of them were then cast and will be used for promotion later on..

 

[Mr. Finger]

Not trying to be argumentative.. But it may be possible that you did misunderstand him.

All molds of body's and heads have seams and leave lines down the castings..
On that body of Batman, it would be down the sides under the armpit to the ankle.. Dremmels and bondo to follow..
Your buddy at Ironhead must be damn good..
I have seen some ok stuff on RPF, but that Bat suit texture looks like a headache.

Pages in this thread arguing about the display? Heck.. I just want to see it.. And now? Poke it..

And the knuckles look black to me..

 

[BatScot]

Regarding the 'steel' toes, irrespective of whatever sort of metal they might be, why would the metal be exposed? Steel toed boots are common, but exposed steel is very unusual. When you see it in the real world it's primarily for style, i.e., serving no functional purpose, or indicative of wear. It's clear the bat boots are not worn through and if it's a style thing, well that's just someone trying to be too cute. Generally the steel is under the leather, but bronze or black those toes are definitely exposed. If it's not a style thing, then why bother. If it is a style thing then they should not have bothered. So that has me wondering if there's some 'purpose'... perhaps the exposed metal on the knuckles and boots serve a dual purpose... that they are also conductive... such that when when he slips on the armor suit he's... connected.

Just brainstorming here.

 

[Proximo]

Not trying to be argumentative.. But it may be possible that you did misunderstand him.

All molds of body's and heads have seams and leave lines down the castings..
On that body of Batman, it would be down the sides under the armpit to the ankle.. Dremmels and bondo to follow..
Your buddy at Ironhead must be damn good..
I have seen some ok stuff on RPF, but that Bat suit texture looks like a headache.

Pages in this thread arguing about the display? Heck.. I just want to see it.. And now? Poke it..

And the knuckles look black to me..

That would be embarrassing. Knowing how many (or few) suits were made I doubt they'd force several of them onto posed statues like that to promote the movie rather than putting them on proper bodycasts of Ben like they have always done before.

I've never claimed otherwise about the knuckles. But I do think the thumb knuckle in the photo Snyder posted from the batcave looks bronze no?

 

[BatScot]

I do think the thumb knuckle in the photo Snyder posted from the batcave looks bronze no?

Isolating that particular photo, I could only say the thumb knuckle is reflecting light. If we had not seen the cosplay suit or the concept art before having seen the Snyder photo I don't think anyone would have jumped on that reflection as indicative of bronze knuckles. We all would have thought it was light reflecting off black plastic... the same sort of knuckles we saw on the TDK gloves or what is common on motocross gloves. But if you say that thumb knuckle is bronze then logically you would reason that all the knuckles are bronze. I don't see a way you can come to any other conclusion.. if there is one bronze knuckle; they're all bronze.

 

[Proximo]

Isolating that particular photo, I could only say the thumb knuckle is reflecting light. If we had not seen the cosplay suit or the concept art before having seen the Snyder photo I don't think anyone would have jumped on that reflection as indicative of bronze knuckles. We all would have thought it was light reflecting off black plastic... the same sort of knuckles we saw on the TDK gloves or what is common on motocross gloves. But if you say that thumb knuckle is bronze then logically you would reason that all the knuckles are bronze. I don't see a way you can come to any other conclusion.. if there is one bronze knuckle; they're all bronze.

I'm not saying it is I'm saying it looks like it is to me. Big difference, jeez. I have never seen photos of the TDK gloves were the black knuckles appear bronze or gold.

 

[Proximo]

The real and honest explanation has already been brought to your attention multiple times yet you're just choosing to be ignorant to the facts and continue this ridiculous tirade. You need to let it go sir.

You are the ridiculous one. All your responses to me come out very aggressive and insulting. I simply stated my opinion on what I think it looks like. You can't accept my opinion even though you have a different opinion on what you're seeing which is why this discussion has gone on so long. If anyone need to let it go, it's you. Look back in the thread.

 

[Mr. Finger]

That would be embarrassing. Knowing how many (or few) suits were made I doubt they'd force several of them onto posed statues like that to promote the movie rather than putting them on proper bodycasts of Ben like they have always done before.

Well, using suits that have been made, and putting them on a modified body form would certainly be a lot easier and cheaper.
Just need to make the head and cowl, and add it to the body form.
Perhaps WB and Ironhead had this planned from the get go?
Built extra suits long ago? As long as they are in safe hands? Seems logical..

Wonder if these will be at Comic Con this year?

 

[BatScot]

I'm not saying it is I'm saying it looks like it is to me.

To be fair, you do seem to be saying a bit more than that...

The actual film used suits clearly appear to have a bronze knuckle based on the batcave photo and trailer still.

... and that's fine.

 

[BatScot]

Aggressive and insulting? I dare you to find a post where I insulted you. I do recall you calling me an "ass" however. You are delusional and that's not an insult, that's fact. I provided facts and pictures and you provided absolutely nothing but an ignorant rant.

I'm done with your bs.

I'm going to have to side with Proximo here with regards to the which of you has been the purveyor of bs in this argument. You have been an ass.

 

[Proximo]

To be fair, you do seem to be saying a bit more than that...

It may come off that way but I really don't. I've said several times I hope I'm wrong of what I think I'm seeing. I hope it is like the statue/suit (whatever).