BvS The Batsuit Thread - Part 7

[Lencho01]

It seems it's only the more modern art where the white eyes are depicted as some sort of lenses by some artists. Other than that, it was just the look artists gave people who wore masks with small eye holes like the Ninja Turtles, for example, compared to characters like the Flash or Huntress.

Nah I was thinking a little like Riddick maybe?

Oh, I see. Hmm... I don't think I've read that suggestion before.

 

[Jekecy]

If they go the Riddick route I don't know if I could contain myself. Imagine if that's how they reveal Ben in the trailers? Amidst the shadows, you see a lurking figure behind some thug. Then out of the darkness comes two glowing orbs:

Followed by a Sam Fisher-like silent capture.


I can just imagine theaters worldwide erupting in cheers.

 

[Boom]

I'd immediately stand up and begin violently humping the screen until the police haul me away in handcuffs.

 

[Sawyer]

Nerds.

 

[Hush]

I don't really want lenses or white eyes. I think it will look goofy in live action.

 

[Sawyer]

Samesies.

 

[Hush]

Samesies.

DID WE JUST BECOME BEST FRIENDS???................Naw we was already close to that.

 

[Jekecy]

I don't really want lenses or white eyes. I think it will look goofy in live action.

Any more goofy than the batsuit itself? Or even Bale's batvoice? Unnecessary jab, I know.

The white eyes are such an iconic part of Batman's image in everything other than live-action. When we've already had a taste of it (via Riddick) to pretty great effect, I don't know how they could muck it up. Granted, TDK really botched the idea, but I consider that a one-in-a-million screwup.

 

[matt47]

If they go the Riddick route I don't know if I could contain myself. Imagine if that's how they reveal Ben in the trailers? Amidst the shadows, you see a lurking figure behind some thug. Then out of the darkness comes two glowing orbs:

Followed by a Sam Fisher-like silent capture.


I can just imagine theaters worldwide erupting in cheers.

I was somewhat against the white eye idea until now. Sir. You have changed my mind. If they do something like this I will be oh so very happy

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

^ I think it should be a "toggle on" thing. That way the actor can emote dramatically, while not having to have the lenses/contacts/cgi all over him incessantly. It'd be neat if he used it against enemies or to help him see in the dark/access data, but kept it off when talking to people on friendly terms.

 

[matt47]

Any more goofy than the batsuit itself? Or even Bale's batvoice? Unnecessary jab, I know.

The white eyes are such an iconic part of Batman's image in everything other than live-action. When we've already had a taste of it (via Riddick) to pretty great effect, I don't know how they could muck it up. Granted, TDK really botched the idea, but I consider that a one-in-a-million screwup.

That's because Nolan thinks that cgi is cheating and stupid..

 

[Jekecy]

^ I think it should be a "toggle on" thing. That way the actor can emote dramatically, while not having to have the lenses/contacts/cgi all over him incessantly. It'd be neat if he used it against enemies or to help him see in the dark/access data, but kept it off when talking to people on friendly terms.

A more than serviceable compromise, I think. Plus how awesome would it be to see Batman's eyes transition between the two states? It would really unnerve people observing that.

 

[Hush]

Any more goofy than the batsuit itself? Or even Bale's batvoice? Unnecessary jab, I know.

The white eyes are such an iconic part of Batman's image in everything other than live-action. When we've already had a taste of it (via Riddick) to pretty great effect, I don't know how they could muck it up. Granted, TDK really botched the idea, but I consider that a one-in-a-million screwup.

No it is just as goofy as the suit but i'm more willing to accept the suit than having lenses on said suit that will impare vision no matter what way you spin it.

 

[matt47]

Any more goofy than the batsuit itself? Or even Bale's batvoice? Unnecessary jab, I know.

The white eyes are such an iconic part of Batman's image in everything other than live-action. When we've already had a taste of it (via Riddick) to pretty great effect, I don't know how they could muck it up. Granted, TDK really botched the idea, but I consider that a one-in-a-million screwup.

That's because Nolan thinks that cgi is cheating and stupid..

 

[joeviterbo]

No it is just as goofy as the suit but i'm more willing to accept the suit than having lenses on said suit that will impare vision no matter what way you spin it.

with a little suspension of disbelief (the contacts could be like iron man hub type high tech thing, just spitballing here) I don't think there's a problem. I like the idea of switching between states.

 

[HUMANIMAL]

oooh sorry bout that guys....i just meant that if they are using some sort of contact lenses or so...it should be defined by the plot like in the dark knight. other wise lookwise its just unnecessery...there is no need for him to have them all all the time.because of what, covering his eyes??? you barely seem them in the darkness so whats the point?

 

[Jekecy]

No it is just as goofy as the suit but i'm more willing to accept the suit than having lenses on said suit that will impare vision no matter what way you spin it.

I don't follow. How are contact lenses impairing vision when they are precisely made to aid one's visual acuity? Especially if we are specifically shown how it doesn't hinder his vision at all?

Capes are utterly impractical in infinite more ways than lenses would be, but I don't presume many of us (if any) would advocate their removal.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

yeah, I really don't see the argument against contacts, presented correctly they could look awesome. I'd love to have a shot with batman coming out of the shadows and the first thing you see is the white eyes and his silhouette slowly emerging from them.

 

[joeviterbo]

oooh sorry bout that guys....i just meant that if they are using some sort of contact lenses or so...it should be defined by the plot like in the dark knight. other wise lookwise its just unnecessery...there is no need for him to have them all all the time.because of what, covering his eyes??? you barely seem them in the darkness so whats the point?

Why couldn't contacts be used to aid his vision? Whether it be heat or night vision or whatever. visual aid has so many applications to nocturnal crimefighting.

plus they make him look badass. and bat's all about the badass.

 

[HUMANIMAL]

yes enhancing it but not all them time ...he rather use goggles instead of havin some lenses integrated in his cowl...but if you mean, he can switch them on and off....then we are going to a direction where evrything is possible and he could fly through the air without jumping from a high building...i mean if thats what you want...sure why not, i just dont know how far they are going with this movie in progress

 

[Hush]

I don't follow. How are contact lenses impairing vision when they are precisely made to aid one's visual acuity? Especially if we are specifically shown how it doesn't hinder his vision at all?

Capes are utterly impractical in infinite more ways than lenses would be, but I don't presume many of us (if any) would advocate their removal.

yeah, I really don't see the argument against contacts, presented correctly they could look awesome. I'd love to have a shot with batman coming out of the shadows and the first thing you see is the white eyes and his silhouette slowly emerging from them.

Right but white contacts? I'll suspend disbelief but thats just silly. I'm sure that you can come up with a explanation about Waynetech making a contact that allows you to change from whit to clear state but I just know too many people who have problems with contacts in real life to believe a guy that will be swinging from buildings wont lose a contact or have one dry out or get punched in the face and have it get knocked out.

Nolan gave us a practical use for the cape and Supermans cape is apart of Kryptonian culture so its there. Its almost to easy to explain the capes.

 

[joeviterbo]

yes enhancing it but not all them time ...he rather use goggles instead of havin some lenses integrated in his cowl...but if you mean, he can switch them on and off....then we are going to a direction where evrything is possible and he could fly through the air without jumping from a high building...i mean if thats what you want...sure why not, i just dont how far they are going with this movie in progress

Is it so far in the realm of science fiction to suggest contact lens computers? People are working on that as we speak. Granted, it's in a very nascent stage but with a bit of a leap in technology I don't think how this can't be possible technologically. We already have a "flying" batman anyhow.

 

[Kevin Smith]

I don't want to see permanent lenses in the film. Most of the comics don't have lenses as actually being part of the cowl, it's just an effect the cowl gives off (Mostly because it saves the illustrator drawing eyes). I wouldn't be opposed to the Batsuit having flip down lenses for a detective mode though.

Whenever the cowl is removed you can just see holes.

Yeah, see, and that looks fine to me.

I think the lenses are unnecessary but I have made peace with it if they are there either way.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

Right but white contacts? I'll suspend disbelief but thats just silly. I'm sure that you can come up with a explanation about Waynetech making a contact that allows you to change from whit to clear state but I just know too many people who have problems with contacts in real life to believe a guy that will be swinging from buildings wont lose a contact or have one dry out or get punched in the face and have it get knocked out.

Nolan gave us a practical use for the cape and Supermans cape is apart of Kryptonian culture so its there. Its almost to easy to explain the capes.

know how you deal with the contacts getting knocked out during a fight? you don't. simple as that, you fall into the 1% that would even think about that sort of thing. this is a world where glasses can disguise your identity, wouldn't the glasses inevitably slip off his face by accident? somehow I think contacts getting knocked out is reaching. and the contacts could serve a practical use, there's the waynetech one you even mentioned, and then there's the intimidation factor, Batman's is all about those little things that can make him seem more scary to the criminals he hunts.

 

[Jekecy]

Right but white contacts? I'll suspend disbelief but thats just silly. I'm sure that you can come up with a explanation about Waynetech making a contact that allows you to change from whit to clear state but I just know too many people who have problems with contacts in real life to believe a guy that will be swinging from buildings wont lose a contact or have one dry out or get punched in the face and have it get knocked out.

Surely you see how silly of a critique that is? Batman's cape which literally drapes behind his heels/feet is more hazardous to his day-to-day activities than eye strain from lenses (which affects a small population of its users at that).

Is there really an argument for which is going to be a bigger detriment? There is an entire industry surrounding one of them, with millions of units in use by actual people. For years.

Nolan gave us a practical use for the cape and Supermans cape is apart of Kryptonian culture so its there. Its almost to easy to explain the capes.

There are several examples here which provide functionality for the lenses. I could perhaps see your stance if we simply advocated some "theatrical lenses" used solely for effect, but that isn't the case here.

The tech is being experimented on as we speak. It's no more vaporware than Nolan's magical electric cape. Considering how fast nanotechnology is at this rate, I wouldn't even be surprised if it'll come to fruition within the next 5-10 years. Google Glass will be in consumer hands next year. Who knows where the military is at with similar tech.