BvS The Batsuit Thread - Part 7

[hafizbat]

What if they went with something like this though?

Then not even Wonder Woman has any briefs at all, and they would look EVEN more awkward with the rest of the heroes.

 

[Astro13Zombie]

Batman's a trendsetter.

 

[Bathead]

I'm all for the trunks, or just a black area there because the suit looks best when it's broken up like that. But a lot of non comics fans would definitely make fun of the trunks, so i think it's a better idea not to use them

Who cares what they think? A lot of non comics fans think the overall concept of superheroes in tights is silly, should we stop reading superhero comics and watching superhero movies because they would laugh at them?

 

[Bathead]

Look, in the comics, sure it's just part of the convention. But in good storytelling, especially movies, there does need to be a reason for everything - in the case of the trunks it either needs to serve a purpose functionally or be important to bats characterization. I still haven't heard a good argument towards either of those. The argument against it is clear - it makes no sense why they're there.

No, there doesn't. Does Superman have a reason for his cape? Does the Joker have a reason for wearing a purple tux? Does Batman really need a reason for the logo on his chest? I could go on, but this idea that there has to be a reason for everything is bogus.

 

[The Infernal]

What if they went with something like this though?

Not a bad look imo. Personally the last thing I want to see is WW in live action in her star spangled knickers.

 

[lc23]

Who cares what they think? A lot of non comics fans think the overall concept of superheroes in tights is silly, should we stop reading superhero comics and watching superhero movies because they would laugh at them?

Hate to break it to you, but when it comes to CBMs, non-comic book fans opinions do matter. The vast majority of moviegoers do not follow comics.

 

[Bathead]

I don't think they're necessary in live-action. They provide a color break in the suit in the comics, but they're not necessary here because live-action wouldn't have that problem IMO. I never had a problem with Superman's lack of trunks in MOS either. I thought it looked fine.

Plus, I'm still not ok with Superman not having them but Batman having them. That is a huge factor for me. That factor alone makes the idea feel really awkward to me. By the time JL rolls around, Batman and Wonder Woman would be the only ones with their briefs on the outside.

Im sorry , but that reasoning the Supes doesn't have them so Batman shouldn't either is specious reasoning to me at best. And even if Batman ends up being the only one in the league wearing trunks (which depends on who shows up as a member, Aquaman, Hawkman amd J'onn J'onz all have worn trunks at one point), so what? Batman has never been known to be a follower of fashion, the more he is different from his fellow JLA members the better he likes it.

 

[hafizbat]

No, but I don't think they should be completely ignored either. It's not like Batman is limited to only having the hardest hardcore fans. Batman is a global icon, perhaps more than any other superhero. Why limit him to only comic readers and what they like?

I don't think we should stop reading comics or watching superhero movies because people will laugh at them, but it's kind of unfair to dismiss non comic readers completely. There could be millions of Batman fans just from the movies and games alone, who have never picked up a comic book. Also, this movie is going to be for everyone, and it's foremost purpose is to make money, not get every single detail of the character perfectly.

No, we should NEVER compromise the character or his/her roots, but Batman is a lot more than his briefs and the giant T-rex in his cave.

 

[TheBat812]

No, there doesn't. Does Superman have a reason for his cape? Does the Joker have a reason for wearing a purple tux? Does Batman really need a reason for the logo on his chest? I could go on, but this idea that there has to be a reason for everything is bogus.

Yes, actually there are reasons for each of those. The cape is part of his kryptonian culture. Jokers purple attire perfectly encapsulates the characters mindset and outlandish nature. The reason to have a bat on his chest is for to engrain the mythical nature of the symbol into the hearts of criminals as a symbol they should fear and as a symbol of hope to citizens.

The importance of trunks? It gives us more evidence for Bruces lunacy? It's a handy adult diaper so he can go all night with no bathroom breaks?

So yes, intelligent movies use things for a purpose, what you're asking for is blind fanboydom, which is fine, but hardly a reasonable argument for including the trunks. I'm not saying there's no way to include them, I just haven't heard anybody give me a good one despite the purported 'need' to include them and personally most of my favorite depictions don't have trunks.

And your comment about the perception of the ga not mattering is adorably naive. But also the majority of batman fans on this board seem to be against trunks, so then it's catering to a very small minority for pretty much no gain as they'll be seeing the movie either way.

 

[Sex]

I need to see her legs on the big screen.

 

[Uroboric Forms]

I'm personally a fan of this kind of skirt thing for Wonder Woman

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for Batman, I would like to see the trunks. The whole 'they help to break up the suit' argument seems a little like people looking for things to complain about (thought this isn't always the case. I can understand it with Superman to an extent, but I thought the MOS suit was great)

For a 'realistic' approach, I've said it before, there are a wealth of explanations for it (that could be shown, not necessarily said, similar the Batman's ninja gauntlets in BB compared to the rest of his tech), such as a harness for when he uses the grapnel gun. However, we DON'T need an explanation for them. Black briefs on a dark grey suit is a completely different bag to bright red on bright blue.

 

[DarkKnight]

Trunks or no trunks, I don't really care. I just hope that this new Batman suit is going to look great. Cant wait to see it. Kevin Smith certainly has my hopes up, so I just hope I'm not disappointed.

Either way, some people will praise the suit and others will want to damn it to hell. Its no different than any other bat suit we have gotten over the years.

 

[hafizbat]

I'm hoping the Batsuit will be as well received as the MoS suit. The VAST, VAST majority of people seem to love it, and even those who don't LOVE it can't exactly "damn it to hell". It's just too excellent to be trashed by anyone.

Believe it or not, it IS possible for a superhero suit to be loved by all...it hasn't yet happened with Batman, but it sure has for Superman and Iron Man. I've never seen any complaints with Iron Man's suit.

I hope Snyder's batsuit can reach the level of perfection these two suits have. I'd add Spidey's suit in ASM2 but lets wait for everyone to see it in film first.

 

[hafizbat]

Here's a question. How much luster or shine do you all want the Batsuit to have? Superman's suit seems to glisten in every shot, and it looks quite glorious. I'd like to see the Batsuit have some of that to make it pop visually, but perhaps it would seem too similar to Superman's suit.

I would like to see a bit of a change from the dull matte gray of the TDK suit though.

 

[Boom]

Unless someone has the guts to make an unapologetic, retro superhero film somewhere down the road, I've come to terms with the fact that we probably will never see the trunks on screen.

If we do, you better believe I will flip my ****.

 

[Bathead]

Yes, actually there are reasons for each of those. The cape is part of his kryptonian culture. Jokers purple attire perfectly encapsulates the characters mindset and outlandish nature. The reason to have a bat on his chest is for to engrain the mythical nature of the symbol into the hearts of criminals as a symbol they should fear and as a symbol of hope to citizens.

The importance of trunks? It gives us more evidence for Bruces lunacy? It's a handy adult diaper so he can go all night with no bathroom breaks?

So yes, intelligent movies use things for a purpose, what you're asking for is blind fanboydom, which is fine, but hardly a reasonable argument for including the trunks. I'm not saying there's no way to include them, I just haven't heard anybody give me a good one despite the purported 'need' to include them and personally most of my favorite depictions don't have trunks.

And your comment about the perception of the ga not mattering is adorably naive. But also the majority of batman fans on this board seem to be against trunks, so then it's catering to a very small minority for pretty much no gain as they'll be seeing the movie either way.

Fine. You want a reason? How about the trunks being a part of a harness system for when he uses the grapnel gun, instead of hanging solely by the belt which would be very uncomfortable, if not downright dangerous. That's as legit a reason as any of the ones you postulated for the questions about other characters' accoutrements that I asked about.
As far as any so called majority here not wanting the trunks, I'm going to have to ask you to prove that with actual statistics.
And the reason that I said who cares what the GA thinks was in response to the idea that they shouldn't use the trunks because the GA would laugh at them. That's just plain stupid reasoning.

 

[Astro13Zombie]

I'm hoping the Batsuit will be as well received as the MoS suit. The VAST, VAST majority of people seem to love it, and even those who don't LOVE it can't exactly "damn it to hell". It's just too excellent to be trashed by anyone.

Believe it or not, it IS possible for a superhero suit to be loved by all...it hasn't yet happened with Batman, but it sure has for Superman and Iron Man. I've never seen any complaints with Iron Man's suit.

I hated the suit before I saw it in the actual movie,now I love it.
It's pretty amazing looking.

Here's a question. How much luster or shine do you all want the Batsuit to have? Superman's suit seems to glisten in every shot, and it looks quite glorious. I'd like to see the Batsuit have some of that to make it pop visually, but perhaps it would seem too similar to Superman's suit.

I would like to see a bit of a change from the dull matte gray of the TDK suit though.

I'd rather their suits are as different as possible.
I think the glistening thing works really well for sun powered boyscout,but can't imagine it working as well for the dark knight.

Unless someone has the guts to make an unapologetic, retro superhero film somewhere down the road, I've come to terms with the fact that we probably will never see the trunks on screen.

If we do, you better believe I will flip my ****.

Snyder and his team were able to work them into the nightowl suit.
If anybody used them on a batsuit I think it would be him.

 

[JKKS085]

I've never seen any complaints with Iron Man's suit.

Actually I think that up to the Mark XLII almost everyone loved all the armors (except maybe for a few people who disliked the grey parts on the Mk VI and VII).

The Mark XLII on the other hand faced a blaze of criticism when it was revealed at SDCC. And while the MoS suit is NOW generally loved, I do remember several heated arguments when the first picture was released and especially when we got these leaked pictures from the Plano set confirming the lack of trunks.

I don't think you can please everyone, at all times, really, especially when it comes to comic book fans. Back in 2005, I remember a vast majority of people really enjoying the Batman Begins' suit while it gets trashed on a regular basis these days. I suppose it the way things work.

 

[regwec]

That just isn't true.

Correct. It is in fact a farcical statement. Explaining everything away into a dull, grey, haze of detail is filmmaking for the joyless. Yuck.

Unless someone has the guts to make an unapologetic, retro superhero film somewhere down the road, I've come to terms with the fact that we probably will never see the trunks on screen.

If we do, you better believe I will flip my ****.

Ditto. It's not really an issue for me one way or another, but kudos to Snyder if he can make the trunks work and but an end to all the tedious, predictable, schoolboy haw-hawing that has bedevilled the genre for decades.

Interesting thing about people who hate the trunks: they also tend to think Robin is "gay". Probably says more about them.

 

[Shikamaru]

Im sorry , but that reasoning the Supes doesn't have them so Batman shouldn't either is specious reasoning to me at best. And even if Batman ends up being the only one in the league wearing trunks (which depends on who shows up as a member, Aquaman, Hawkman amd J'onn J'onz all have worn trunks at one point), so what? Batman has never been known to be a follower of fashion, the more he is different from his fellow JLA members the better he likes it.

Aquaman hasn't worn trunks for most of his comic book runs. They'll probably drop the trunks of Hawkman and MM for the same reasons they did it to Superman (they're all aliens).

It would just feel really awkward. If a boy scout with old-school Kansas values and the classic superhero image wouldn't have the trunks on him, why would the dark brooding more-modern city vigilante badass have them? Plus, given Snyder's reason to dropping Superman's trunks in the first place, it wouldn't even fit this universe's Batman. Snyder said the trunkless looks makes Superman look more alien and plays into the "fear of the unknown" theme. Batman is the epitome of superheroes that don't want to come off as human. His whole shtick is entirely about coming off as a demon/creature of the night.

 

[The Shape]

Unless someone has the guts to make an unapologetic, retro superhero film somewhere down the road, I've come to terms with the fact that we probably will never see the trunks on screen.

If we do, you better believe I will flip my ****.

Someday, when I produce a Batman film set in the 1930s (which has long been a dream of mine), I'll gladly give Batman trunks.

 

[regwec]

Batman set in the 30s, Bond set in the 50s, Terminator prequel set in the 80s.

Let 2016 be the era of eras.

 

[The Infernal]

Someday, when I produce a Batman film set in the 1930s (which has long been a dream of mine), I'll gladly give Batman trunks.

I wonder how much it would cost to produce a short fan film of a decent quality?

 

[StarLord]

Batman set in the 30s, Bond set in the 50s, Terminator prequel set in the 80s.

Let 2016 be the era of eras.

I'd love to see a Batman movie like this.

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[Enriquespy]

Oh noes, a trunks discussion again!?!?!?

A 30's batman would be awesome.