The Daily Planet - Superman News and Speculation Thread (🚨TAG SPOILERS🚨)

[SupermanFan]

Daniel R still RT this

Justin did say something about a red cape....I think he got told off so has to tweet denials now, not very precise neither with his denials lol.

Maybe it's better for him to do a Jason Momoa, leaking these stuff can lead to deals breaking down

I definitely think Justin was told off, he said what he said he can't deny that. Clearly a hint at the Man of Steel.

I care about all 3 of those so I’d take it either way, lol. But yes, I think Supes should be the priority and needs him the most right now.

Agreed

Mark Hughes tone: "Superman fans have THREE Superman in this year's CW crossover, and you still want ANOTHER movie?"

One of my issues with Hughes, even though he's a good guy he's often telling Superman fans that they need to be patient or to get a grip yet its easy for him to say so when his Batman movies are still happening.

I'd love a scenario where he directs Superman and produces Green Lantern for Justin Lin.

That would be very cool

 

[Willi Berg]

It's hard to see Abrams doing something like taking on Green Lantern while ignoring Superman.

It would be cool if he does produce both Superman and GL, directing Superman (even if it's only the first movie so he can work on other projects) and then overseeing the team for the GL movie. That would do great things for the DCEU, shaping where it could go after that, such as JL or any other major crossovers.

 

[Micromind]

I don't think he will be interested in directing GL (as he already did two space franchises, Star Trek and Star Wars) but I can see him agreeing to take up Producer role for a GL movie.

 

[Silvermoth]

It’s interesting that people keep suggesting film directors. Part of marvel’s success comes from people with a lot of work in television because they know how to do collaborative storytelling.

it’s not incorrect, it’s just interesting

 

[Willi Berg]

It’s interesting that people keep suggesting film directors. Part of marvel’s success comes from people with a lot of work in television because they know how to do collaborative storytelling.

it’s not incorrect, it’s just interesting

I know what you mean. It just seems WB/DC are more director-driven. The studio and fans both seem to want big name film directors (or up and coming), with some prestige.

 

[dhandler01]

The problem is fans seem to think just cause they like a director and his style that he would be "perfect" for the film. They forget said director might not want to make the film, or have a vision for one, or maybe doesn't get the character. That isnt always needed mind you but I think it helps.

Now in the case of say this film, if tomorrow Abrams was announced I would be happy about it. Not because I am a fan of his (I am really not) but because I think this franchise needs someone at the helm that fundamentally gets all aspects of the character and I can tell JJ definitely has that. I also think that Superman, above probably all other characters, has to have a film that is going to be an A#1 crowdpleaser which is something JJ is very good at. Even though the masses love to mock how boring Superman is the truth is The Big Blue Boy Scout is what the majority want. It is why SM: The Movie is still the gold standard even if it is completely outdated. Superman should always be the bright beacon of hope, and example of what humanity can be.

 

[Greenlite]

It's hard to see Abrams doing something like taking on Green Lantern while ignoring Superman.

It would be cool if he does produce both Superman and GL, directing Superman (even if it's only the first movie so he can work on other projects) and then overseeing the team for the GL movie. That would do great things for the DCEU, shaping where it could go after that, such as JL or any other major crossovers.

And hire Rian Johnson for the Sup sequel and we are back to square one hahaha

 

[Greenlite]

I know what you mean. It just seems WB/DC are more director-driven. The studio and fans both seem to want big name film directors (or up and coming), with some prestige.

Ya that’s why I am more into DC because of the director driven approach, they seriously lost their way with Tsujihara and his axe.

If people want producer/studio driven then they could watch Marvel, I just watch their main films now and stopped following every single one.

Funny how MCU is trying to diversify while DC is trying to re-establish that director driven approach before maybe unify them down the line. WW, SZ and AM are probably the blue print for shared universe, director driven and commercially/critically successful films

 

[Greenlite]

Would be interesting to see if JJ comes in will he take Cavill again, template would be Thor 3, new vision, same cast, crowd pleaser, reenergize the franchise, maybe take on JL and pass the solo sequels to someone like Justin Lin like he did with ST.

Either Cavill or the new guy would probably look at a deal involving the standard 3-film contract, plus JLs and Shazam

 

[dhandler01]

If Cavill comes back he brings a lot of baggage with him...not sure there is a way to make it work though anything is possible.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

I don't know if JJ wants to do another Star War like film ie GLC but if I were WB I'd use Hamada to give him a brief of the franchise history and future/vision, let him take the deal that McQ proposed before, kinda, so direct Sup and produce GLC, and oversee the whole DC universe as a consultant to make sure there are no crazy controversies like TLJ but not hands on (let Geoff Johns be the hands on guru like he did with WW and AM etc).

So naturally he only has to work hard on Sup, help GLC off the ground, work with his buddy Reeves to merge the worlds together in a few years, use the existing popular WW, AM, Shazam/Rock, HQ/SS and hopefully Flash under IT director, and a big JL event film/franchise is born, and he can direct 1 or 2 and trying to end it like Lost, as in a pop cultural icon series. The consultant role is just for his peripheral vision with Hamada still the one running the show.

But since 2000 Johns has created a mythos in GL that could sustain a movie, tv, and toy line.

Reynolds movie never got to touch it.

Superman is a priority as a trademark but does it have to be a movie? Could it continue as a streaming show with Hoechlin? That’s an option.

 

[Greenlite]

But since 2000 Johns has created a mythos in GL that could sustain a movie, tv, and toy line.

Reynolds movie never got to touch it.

Superman is a priority as a trademark but does it have to be a movie? Could it continue as a streaming show with Hoechlin? That’s an option.

That's why JJ would be the ideal guy to produce GLC, I doubt he'd want to do a 3rd inter-galaxy franchise, give another keen energetic director a go.

Whereas JJ has a passion for Superman and missed out on it 15 years ago, WB has so many tools to lure him into directing it.

I would love GLC to be announced tomorrow, but realistically it'd be easier for WB to get JJ to Sup then kick start GLC, which is just really expensive to make, and Johns has been writing the script longer than Reeves has for Batman, and the last GL movie bombed hard, and its lead and support (now a famous director) continue to mock the brand (starting to look a bit unprofessional now, milking other's pain really, hundreds of crews worked on the film and now they just mock it for their own image over and over)

As for the CW superman show(s), Routh as older Sup or Tyler having his own show....IMO if you have freaking JJ Abrahm interested to direct a Sup movie then you give it to him....that's like a guaranteed billion with a budget of 250M then you'd get a profit around 100-200M....can the CW Sup show do that in 3-4 years?

 

[Silvermoth]

All I know is please don’t do the destruction of krypton again

 

[TheComicbookKid]

That's why JJ would be the ideal guy to produce GLC, I doubt he'd want to do a 3rd inter-galaxy franchise, give another keen energetic director a go.

Whereas JJ has a passion for Superman and missed out on it 15 years ago, WB has so many tools to lure him into directing it.

I would love GLC to be announced tomorrow, but realistically it'd be easier for WB to get JJ to Sup then kick start GLC, which is just really expensive to make, and Johns has been writing the script longer than Reeves has for Batman, and the last GL movie bombed hard, and its lead and support (now a famous director) continue to mock the brand (starting to look a bit unprofessional now, milking other's pain really, hundreds of crews worked on the film and now they just mock it for their own image over and over)

As for the CW superman show(s), Routh as older Sup or Tyler having his own show....IMO if you have freaking JJ Abrahm interested to direct a Sup movie then you give it to him....that's like a guaranteed billion with a budget of 250M then you'd get a profit around 100-200M....can the CW Sup show do that in 3-4 years?

Abrams love Star Wars, not just a generic inter-galaxy franchise. It has very specific tropes he likes.

That's why when he got Star Trek, he semi-used a bunch of Star Wars tropes and visuals.

Green Lantern has a bunch of those same tropes already in it. If Snyder hadn't already made a Superman this decade, I'd see him wanting to write over Superman Returns but as it is, I feel like we are on a Begins timeline of Justice League/BatvSupes.

Green Lantern will be ready to go by early 2021 if they start now.

 

[Silvermoth]

Yeah plus it will have been like a decade since the last one so no one will remember

 

[Willi Berg]

Since the success of Joaquin's 'Joker', there's been some online chatter about WB apparently wanting to make a Lex Luthor movie in a similar way. A "President Lex" type of movie. It could be an intriguing movie but what would this mean for Superman? It could be good publicity for the Superman universe as a whole, but excluding Superman could mean more of a delay seeing him, and shortchanging Superman once again. They could include this type of Lex in a Superman movie, though they would have to be careful since Jesse Eisenberg in BvS was kind of a controversial and divisive take on Lex.

RUMOR:

Warner Bros. is considering a Lex Luthor film. No Man of Steel; he’s pure fiction in this alternate universe. To WB, this has the potential of being a modern-day Citizen Kane. You see Luthor grow up from being an awkward intellectual kid to corrupt wealthy businessman to president of the United States. Slap on an R rating and leave the comic books behind but perhaps put a twist on the myth such as making Lois Lane his First Lady, but also the reporter who brings him down.

DCEU Leak: A Film With Lex Luthor as President Is on Warner Bros.' Radar

 

[Iceman]

I’m up for a Lex Luthor film if they treat it with the respect it deserves, but I want this Luthor to continue in the universe to later interact with Superman and many others over time.

 

[Willi Berg]

That's the thing- a complex dark Lex Luthor who becomes President as they describe here sounds like a great Lex to have in the Superman universe! That's what he should be. The classic elements of Lex are all in there: awkward intellectual kid, corrupt businessman, seizes so much power he becomes President...

Maybe as a Lex origin movie it could be great. But then that Lex could easily be shown to eventually confront Superman. To see how the character deals with such an unexpected factor and arrival such as Superman, that shakes up everything he is trying to do.

 

[Aurakles]

I don't care for the idea that Superman wouldn't exist.
Nor Lois being married to Luthor. I've never liked the idea of romance between them, it always strikes me as a way of trying to create more conflict between Superman and Luthor which is completely unnecessary.

If you are going to make Luthor President, Superman should be an outlaw. If Luthor has been able to convince the public to elect him, it would make sense that he's been able to convince people to hate Superman. He's demonised, hunted by the police like in the very early comics.

A Robin Hood/Zorro type figure, fighting against the entire government while as Clark, he and Lois are trying to expose Luthor.

 

[Willi Berg]

I think a problem with that is that we've already seen Superman "demonised" in BvS, where Lex turned people against him. I do like the idea of Superman as more vigilante like in the comics, fighting corruption and crime on a more street level.

It's possible that Lex gains the trust of the people so much so that even Superman cannot convince them otherwise. Superman wouldn't necessarily be an outcast, but more helpless in that regard, while still being and acting heroic. Lex could make Superman feel more powerless (so to speak). Clark and Lois exposing Lex, as journalists, could be something that Superman cannot do.

 

[Aurakles]

Superman feeling powerless was done in BVS too. But it didn't have the government actively working against him, police trying to arrest him every time he appears, Special Ops teams equipped with Luthor designed weapons laying traps for him.

I like the idea of a rebel Superman out to break the status quo. That would be paired perfectly with a Luthor who is fully entrenched in the system, is it's figurehead.

 

[Willi Berg]

Interesting idea and we saw some of that rebel in Grant Morrison's New 52 run. I just wonder whether audiences want a Superman that's not fully embraced by the public, on the outer again, and not a figure of "optimism" and "light". His rebellion would be for the good of the people, but if the people are loving Lex then they would be hating Superman.

 

[flickchick85]

He can still be a figure of optimism and hope while being hunted by the government. It's all about how you present it. His greatest superpower is that he can remain hopeful and optimistic even when faced with opposition and seemingly insurmountable odds. That's kinda the main power that makes him Superman, imo. So if you present him dealing with it like Grant Morrison had him dealing with it, and not as someone beaten down and depressed by the whole scenario, I don't think audiences would take issue with that at all. But you have to show the POSITIVE effects he's having on people, too. The lives he's saved, the lives he's changed, the people he's inspiring every day. Because they're the ones that inspire him. It's not a one-way street. He inspires us, we inspire him. That's a crucial element of any Superman mythos, imo.

 

[Boy Scout]

Whatever flickchick says in regards to Superman: I agree.

 

[flickchick85]

And I always agree with Boy Scout agreeing with whatever I say.