The Daily Planet - Superman News and Speculation Thread (🚨TAG SPOILERS🚨)

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But what if they didn't?

See I can do that too! :o
Why would they write it in a way that didn't make sense? I don't think they would want to do that. I think they would want to write it in a way that it did make sense!
 
They often make multiple test suits to evaluate which one to go with. It’s very possible that this was just one of the suits they were testing early on, and they liked this photograph as we’ve discussed previously. So it’s not necessarily true that they had to remake the suit like you keep insisting. They probably made multiple to begin with.

Is that choice to release a photo of an outdated suit (with a couple small differences like trim and collar) a little weird? Yeah, but I find the prospect of them releasing a photo of the villain to be a much stranger decision than any of the decisions that seem to bother you.
Dk knows everything about this film, it's not worth having a different opinion.
 
Kinda like how the original Batman and Superman comics where created by different people with no plan of crossing over but then they did?
You mean when they met in a completely different comic written by completely different writers? They didn't meet in their comics they met in All Star Comics #7 as honorary members of the JSA.

And are we going to pretend that you can get away with the same things in comics as you can in movies? Should we list all the ways they are different or can we just drop that canard :o
 
No, Snyder directed MOS because WB was under a deadline to make a Superman movie or they had to pay back Jerry Siegel's heirs for lost income on the decades of unmade Superman movies and all of Nolan's top choices turned them down.
No both are true. Your reason is why it was made, Nolan suggested Snyder after a bunch of directors said no.
 
What controversy? No one cares but a few people online.

How many Spidermen are there?

You're right, but there's the whole business case to be made about diluting your IP with multiple iterations of the same character. It is a business and that is what will govern their decision.

As much as everyone thinks studios are incompetent, I can guarantee you wb is having this exact same discussion. This stuff doesn't exist in a vacuum and the decision to move forward with keeping Reeves' batman separate was made at a different time when people thought superhero films were all money makers.

As of right now they are separate, doesn't mean that plan can't change. Maybe Reeves likes what he sees from this Superman film and wants his batman to be a part of it.
 
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Why would they write it in a way that didn't make sense? I don't think they would want to do that. I think they would want to write it in a way that it did make sense!
Are you knew here? Have you seen some of the crap that gets put out there? Just because they want it to make sense doesn't mean it will.
 
Why would they write it in a way that didn't make sense? I don't think they would want to do that. I think they would want to write it in a way that it did make sense!
It's such a dumb point of you to make dude. You can say that for anything. "What if they wrote a crossover between Nolanverse Batman and the MCU and they made it make sense?". The point is 999 out of 1000 times it wouldn't and also it'd be a gigantic, and I mean gigantic headache to write or figure out because of the reasons we've pointed out.
 
No both are true. Your reason is why it was made, Nolan suggested Snyder after a bunch of directors said no.
I mean yes, but it's not like Nolan went straight for Snyder, they circled through everyone else before they got to him. And if the reason everyone else turned them down was because of things not in Nolan's control, ie complicated copyright law, backlog of Hollywood accounting causing a rush to make the movie which causes an inflexibility in the script. That has way more to do with Snyder getting the job than Nolan.
 
It's such a dumb point of you to make dude. You can say that for anything. "What if they wrote a crossover between Nolanverse Batman and the MCU and they made it make sense?". The point is 999 out of 1000 times it wouldn't and also it'd be a gigantic, and I mean gigantic headache to write or figure out because of the reasons we've pointed out.
This one is easy to make sense of. Doctor Strange uses his magic to make the big circle to travel to different universes and one of those universes is the Nolanverse. Give me a real challenge.
 
You're right, but there's the whole business case to be made about diluting your IP with multiple iterations of the same character. It is a business and that is what will govern their decision.

As much as everyone thinks studios are incompetent, I can guarantee you wb is having this exact same discussion. This stuff doesn't exist in a vacuum and the decision to move forward with keeping Reeves' batman separate was made at a different time when people thought superhero films were all money makers.

As of right now they are separate, doesn't mean that plan can't change. Maybe Reeves likes what he sees from this Superman film and wants his batman to be a part of it.
That I don't disagree with. Personally I hope Gunn's Batman doesn't show up for a while for that exact reason.
 
I mean yes, but it's not like Nolan went straight for Snyder, they circled through everyone else before they got to him. And if the reason everyone else turned them down was because of things not in Nolan's control, ie complicated copyright law, backlog of Hollywood accounting causing a rush to make the movie which causes an inflexibility in the script. That has way more to do with Snyder getting the job than Nolan.
All I said was Nolan was the reason. If Nolan doesn't suggest him (because no one else wanted the job) he never directs it.

And it is funny that Goyer's script still gets blamed by some...cause when they replaced him with a supposedly better writer for BvS that worked out so well. :o The script was fine, it is what is left out by the director that made that film a mess. (in reality it is equally both)
 
As much as everyone thinks studios are incompetent, I can guarantee you wb is having this exact same discussion. This stuff doesn't exist in a vacuum and the decision to move forward with keeping Reeves' batman separate was made at a different time when people thought superhero films were all money makers.

As of right now they are separate, doesn't mean that plan can't change. Maybe Reeves likes what he sees from this Superman film and wants his batman to be a part of it.
The thing is that Matt takes so long between films that actually gives them a very very easy way to circumvent that in a way that'd also just flatly benefit the studio. It's gonna be 4.5 years between 1 and 2. It might even be longer between 2 and 3 since third films are the most complicated to write. So 2031 or maybe even 2032 for the third film. That gives them plenty of space in-between in which to put the DCU Batman movie out. I think it can work out fine. The only thing it does is that it adds extra pressure on BaTB to really knock it out of the park but I think they should have that pressure anyway.
 
All I said was Nolan was the reason. If Nolan doesn't suggest him (because no one else wanted the job) he never directs it.

And it is funny that Goyer's script still gets blamed by some...cause when they replaced him with a supposedly better writer for BvS that worked out so well. :o The script was fine, it is what is left out by the director that made that film a mess. (in reality it is equally both)
The BVS script is still soooo Goyer. Lois Lane investigating the magic bullet and The White Portuguese are the most Goyer things I've ever seen.

And y'all aren't ready for the conversation for about how obvious it is that BvS was originally written for Bale.
 
Oh please dude. By the time the first Batman-Superman crossover came around Batman comics had devolved into such a high level of fantasy it was extremely easy to imagine those two in a crossover. Not to mention those comics were very very very simple and obviously did not feature strict rules for their world or whatever. This is not the case with Pattinson's Batman in which every single detail of the production was made through a very very very specific "realistic and grounded" lens. Matt could not even bear Batman gliding with his cape because it was unrealistic so he gave him a wingsuit.
"Gritty and realistic" yet also has Batman's suit tank explosions and guns like he's Iron Man, gave him a car that spouts blue flames like a cartoon, and has Riddle flooding the city while giving a goofy OTT speech all while living in a Gotham that's just as stylized as a comic book.

Hardly a Batman that would feel totally out of place standing next to a Superman.
 
"Gritty and realistic" yet also has Batman's suit tank explosions and guns like he's Iron Man, gave him a car that spouts blue flames like a cartoon, and has Riddle flooding the city while giving a goofy OTT speech all while living in a Gotham that's just as stylized as a comic book.

Hardly a Batman that would feel totally out of place standing next to a Superman.
Yeah because it's still a movie at the end of the day. Daniel Craig's Bond was also highly unrealistic if you try to really nail down the specifics but that doesn't mean it'd suddenly be a natural transition if he were to crossover with Thor. It also doesn't deny Reeves explicit intentions that he's mentioned over and over and over and over again but which fans seem to always ignore whenever it's convenient for their fan theories.
 
I think it would be sick if Bond crossed over with Thor tbh. Thor is just an Alien anyways, would fit in fine.
 
What controversy? No one cares but a few people online.

How many Spidermen are there?
We will continue this argument in the Batman threads at a later date. You won’t see the two older Spidermen again to answer your question.

I am pleased with Corenswet as Big Blue and Metropolis set photos seem to work. Looking forward to Sexy Lexi.
 
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