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Mobster Penguin is a one-dimensional deformed ugly version of Al Capone with trick umbrella's.

Returns Penguin is a three-dimensional ugly severely deformed tragic figure with trick umbrella's living in the sewers that's a evil monster but at the same time you pity him because if his parents had accepted him, he would have turned out to be a great human being.
 
Mobster Penguin is a one-dimensional deformed ugly version of Al Capone with trick umbrella's.

Returns Penguin is a three-dimensional ugly severely deformed tragic figure with trick umbrella's living in the sewers that's a evil monster but at the same time you pity him because if his parents had accepted him, he would have turned out to be a great human being.
i'm glad you feel that way, i disagree though
 
lol wut. you said you wanted to see Penguins venom in HD!
nono, that can't be right. i talked about 89 alot, but i don't ever talk about returns. i think it may be my least favorite batman film
 
I don't think Talia will be a villan in this.

The whole them of the last two movies was escalation. Batman inspiring freaks to take the mantle of crime. It would be odd to go back to a bunch of ninja's with a revenge theme of "You killed my daddy".

The villans will be freaks or else it undos the last two movies completely.

As Alfred said "Things were always going to get worse before they get better". Things will get worse and then batman rises to become the hero Gotham deserves and the one it needs right now.

It doesn't HAVE to be a revenge story. Talia could be there to finish what Rā's started. It'd be an epic twist for Nolan though if Neeson came back as Rā's, and then you get the whole love/hate dynamic
 
I think Lady Shiva is the female villain, Catwoman or Talia Al Ghul could be the love interest/anti-heroine.

The female villain could also be Poison Ivy or Harley Quinn.
 
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I have a feeling that Tom Hardy will play David Cain and one of the actresses will play Lady Shiva. The other will play Talia, but as a love interest who doesn't want revenge on Bruce but knows that Shiva does
 
:wow: You even dislike it more than Batman and Robin?

I doubt, he said least favorite but not worst.

For instance, TDK is my least favorite although still great but I think Batman & Robin is the worst like most people.

Returns is lixdexia's least favorite but he might think Batman & Robin is the worst.
 
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I have a feeling that Tom Hardy will play David Cain and one of the actresses will play Lady Shiva. The other will play Talia, but as a love interest who doesn't want revenge on Bruce but knows that Shiva does

Thanks for fleshing out the Lady Shiva theory.
 
I think Lady Shiva is the female villain, Catwoman or Talia Al Ghul could be the love interest/anti-heroine.

The female villain could also be Poison Ivy or Harley Quinn.

Would Harley Quinn work without The Joker though?
 
Would Harley Quinn work without The Joker though?

I'm not sure about Quinn but Ivy could work as a eco-terrorist that uses a injection gun as poison in Nolan's world rather than supernatural powers.

Lady Shiva seems the most likely to me.
 
nono, that can't be right. i talked about 89 alot, but i don't ever talk about returns. i think it may be my least favorite batman film

I can understand why you have that opinion. I love Returns as a movie, but as a Batman movie it fails on so many levels. Batman has virtually no character development, and is practically a tertiary character. Catwoman, Penguin, even Schreck get more focus. Catwoman and Penguin are very different to their comic book counterparts. I don't think the whole Red Triangle Circus gang worked at all. They are more suited to The Joker than Penguin. Gordon is even more pointless and under used than he was in Batman '89.
 
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