The Flash The Flash General Discussion and Speculation Thread - Part 9

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Solidified Speed Force energy? :huh:

I didn't even realize this was a thing in the comics. Maybe this is where the idea of the philosopher stone (calcified) came from? :huh:
 
mqg96 said:
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Solidified Speed Force energy? :huh:

I didn't even realize this was a thing in the comics. Maybe this is where the idea of the philosopher stone (calcified) came from? :huh:
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they get most of the stuff from the books. it's another thing how ever on how they explain to the tv audience how ever.
 
zenith16 said:
they get most of the stuff from the books. it's another thing how ever on how they explain to the tv audience how ever.
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The thing about the Flash on CW, they have to appeal equally to comic book readers and non-comic book readers (or casuals). There's even people who love the Flash who aren't into superhero shows at all. So they don't want to confuse people with explaining every little comic book thing in detail. There's a lot of complicated speed force logic that I doubt the show will ever explain unfortunately. It doesn't help that it's a CW show, which means more relationships and filler. That's why I enjoy Agents of Shield from ABC much better.
 
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mqg96 said:
The thing about the Flash on CW, they have to appeal equally to comic book readers and non-comic book readers (or casuals). There's even people who love the Flash who aren't into superhero shows at all. So they don't want to confuse people with explaining every little comic book thing in detail. There's a lot of complicated speed force logic that I doubt the show will ever explain unfortunately. It doesn't help that it's a CW show, which means more relationships and filler. That's why I enjoy Agents of Shield from ABC much better.
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Oh I wouldn't go on saying SHIELD is -any- better in that regard. The first couple seasons there was a will they- wont they with Ward and Skye, and the whole series revolved around Jemma and Fitz, and this season had a huge relationship arc with Coulson and May... They're just as bad, when it comes to relationship drama. Even if this season was a huge improvement. A lot of that came down to better pacing and storytelling though.
 
Shouldn't we start hearing some casting news for Season 4 soon?
 
Flash and Arrow cast member Robbie Amell certainly became a superhero when he was on with his wife Italia Ricci (who was Silver Banshee on Supergirl) playing The $100,000 Pyramid on ABC this past Sunday. In this Winner's Circle (the round where players can win the big money) contestant Jacob gives the clues to Amell. By the way, when Jacob was there with Italia she helped him win $50,000. Take a look at what happens with Robbie...

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If you want to see the entire episode, and you have an account with your cable and online provider...go here.

When you click on the link to that show you will have to go about 21:00 into the video.
 
Candace said that Iris will take on more of a leadership role in Season 4.
 
Headliner said:
This disaster known as season 3 really did kill my interest in the show.
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I honestly don't understand why so many people felt Season 3 was bad. Was Savitar's origin unnecessarily complicated and convoluted? Yes, and it could have been done better. But overall, I found it quite good. And certainly nothing that killed my interest in the show.
 
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I honestly don't understand why so many people felt Season 3 was bad. Was Savitar's origin unnecessarily complicated and convoluted? Yes, and it could have been done better. But overall, I found it quite good. And certainly nothing that killed my interest in the show.
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For me it just seemed to be repeating the same basic story as season 1 and 2. I was hoping Flashpoint would be the main focus of the season, but after the first couple episode it was resolved too quickly and
was only casually mentioned after that. And Savitar looked too cartoony. He was supposed to be big and scary I guess. But he just looked silly with all the spikes sticking out all over. Like a high-tech version of Doomsday.
And yes, the origin was too long, complicated, and convoluted. Unless the show is binge watched on Netflix it is hard to keep track of what is going one week to week.
The Grodd story didn't really live up to the hype either, he just ended up being a mustache twirling villain that happened to look like a gorilla.
I think if the first half of the season had concentrated on the ramifications of Flashpoint and Savitar was introduced in the second half it would have been a tighter story.
 
I saw a description of it somewhere that I really liked. Season 3 felt like the flash writers were trying to improve a bunch of the stuff they got wrong in season 2 which they managed too, but by doing it right after, it felt repetitive and boring.
i.e. season 3 was season 2 done right, but was pointless b/c it was the same thing.
 
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Candace said that Iris will take on more of a leadership role in Season 4.
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Hearing stuff like this is not helping the show. Nobody around me is going to watch if spoilers like this pop up. How awkward is SDCC going to be? They might as well sit Candice on a throne and push Grant in the audience even though it's still called The Flash. This is worse than Felicity and Friends. Felicity at least had skills and likability. What does Iris have to earn the title as "leader"? So much shoehorning my head can't take it. It's like Berlanti is begging us to hate the show even more.
 
Depends how they mean by her in a leadership role... Look at it this way... everyone has lost someone dear to them (two people technically with Caitlin/Killer Frost walking away). If she's got a leadership role simply because she can't cope with her loss without the remaining team up & running & thus is pulling them along by their bootstraps.... then I've got no real issue...

but if they basically give her HR's old position of 'the face of Star Labs' (aka doing similar to what they did with Felicity and PalmerTech), then that's not going to work IMHO
 
Cisco should have taken over, even Harry or Wally. The closing scene revealed that much. All Iris did was cry and beg to marry her step brother. How could anyone think she has the stamina to lead a team? She's shown to have no skills, no brains or strength in dire situations. Everything the writers have given her is exaggerated and dramatic. Nothing is built. She's earned nothing. Season 4 is going to flop.
 
So don't watch it... go do something more fulfilling then complaining on the internet...
 
Avenging Angel said:
Hearing stuff like this is not helping the show. Nobody around me is going to watch if spoilers like this pop up. How awkward is SDCC going to be? They might as well sit Candice on a throne and push Grant in the audience even though it's still called The Flash. This is worse than Felicity and Friends. Felicity at least had skills and likability. What does Iris have to earn the title as "leader"? So much shoehorning my head can't take it. It's like Berlanti is begging us to hate the show even more.
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your not alone.the snowbarry fandom and caitlin/killerfros fandom all reacting same way.it's borderline ridculas.it will be worse than season 3.and people have
been critical of season 3 despite what some want to think.and savatar isn't what we are talking about.i am with you.

more intrested in arrow season 6 at this point.
 
marvelrobbins said:
your not alone.the snowbarry fandom and caitlin/killerfros fandom all reacting same way.it's borderline ridculas.it will be worse than season 3.and people have
been critical of season 3 despite what some want to think.and savatar isn't what we are talking about.i am with you.

more intrested in arrow season 6 at this point.
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I think it's regular viewers too along with shippers. I finally made plans to set my DVR for Arrow on the days I accidentally miss it. I'm actually looking forward to Season 6. Shame I'll have to avoid S4 of this show due to the writers' obsession with Iris and westallen. I thought they were done with that nonsense. They learned nothing from Arrow's mistakes.
 
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