The Rebooted "Keep Hope Alive" (that the rights can revert back to Marvel) Thread - - - - - - Part 15

[Flint Marko]

I don't want Reed Richards to be any more muscular than Benedict Cumberbatch was in Dr. Strange. Clearly fit but not distractingly so.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

I would kind of like an entirely scrawny Reed. His power set doesn't necessarily end itself to being buff, so let us get a little variety in body types across the MCU.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I don't think he should look like he spends all his time in the gym or look scrawny.

He should look look strong and healthy - like someone who is naturally athletic and active.

 

[Detective Conan]

Reed shouldn't have a bodybuilder level physique but I've always pictured him having an Indiana Jones type body.

He's in shape but it isn't going to be super noticeable.

 

[Dark Raven]

I don't want a scrawny Reed. I definitely don't want a Ben Whishaw type for Reed. No to any weedy and nerdy Reed types.

 

[Rorschach2012]

John Krasinski is clearly the guy

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Reed shouldn't have a bodybuilder level physique but I've always pictured him having an Indiana Jones type body.

 

[Dark Raven]

Reed shouldn't have a bodybuilder level physique but I've always pictured him having an Indiana Jones type body.

He's in shape but it isn't going to be super noticeable.

I definitely want Reed more like Indy or Doc Savage, and definitely not like Q or Sheldon Cooper. He needs to be more of a leading man this time round than either Ioan Gruffudd or Miles Teller.

If he were younger, I'd want Tim Daly as Reed. Apart from the Superman-type presence and authority, he can play very intelligent and scholarly (see Madam Secretary) but still is also a man of action.

It's not like he even looks so old right now, especially for his age.

 

[Crimz]

Reed shouldn't have a bodybuilder level physique but I've always pictured him having an Indiana Jones type body.

He's in shape but it isn't going to be super noticeable.

I pretty much agree.



How do you guys think they should tackle Ben and Doom? Unlike Hulk, Ben can't transform back and forth between being human and the Thing and Dr Doom always wears a mask.

Some actors have a problem being hidden throughout a film, I don't want this to be like the 05/07 films again where Ben kept returning human and Doom spends most of the time without a mask.

I think they should give the Doom the Vader treatment of having a different person voicing him. While with Ben we have to hope they find an actor who's fine with only showing up at the beginning of the film then being a voice for the rest, if they show up at all.

 

[Marvel united]

I don't want a scrawny Reed. I definitely don't want a Ben Whishaw type for Reed. No to any weedy and nerdy Reed types.

Ben is a good choice

 

[Dark Raven]

I pretty much agree.



How do you guys think they should tackle Ben and Doom? Unlike Hulk, Ben can't transform back and forth between being human and the Thing and Dr Doom always wears a mask.

Some actors have a problem being hidden throughout a film, I don't want this to be like the 05/07 films again where Ben kept returning human and Doom spends most of the time without a mask.

I think they should give the Doom the Vader treatment of having a different person voicing him. While with Ben we have to hope they find an actor who's fine with only showing up at the beginning of the film then being a voice for the rest, if they show up at all.

I don't want Thing with a more human face. He needs to look completely obscured with his comic book face and big rock eyebrow. No human nose either but the small button nose.

Ben is a good choice

He is just too typically weedy and nerdy and would perpetuate that image people seem to have these days of Reed being that way. He's the opposite of what I want for Reed.

 

[Marvel united]

I don't want Thing with a more human face. He needs to look completely obscured with his comic book face and big rock eyebrow. No human nose either but the small button nose.



He is just too typically weedy and nerdy and would perpetuate that image people seem to have these days of Reed being that way. He's the opposite of what I want for Reed.

Well, I definitely want a more confident assertive Reed this time. He has to be someone people wouldn't mind taking over from Tony Stark. But I don't mind a skinny Reed. A lot of the more modern interpretations depict him as so.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I pretty much agree.



How do you guys think they should tackle Ben and Doom? Unlike Hulk, Ben can't transform back and forth between being human and the Thing and Dr Doom always wears a mask.

Some actors have a problem being hidden throughout a film, I don't want this to be like the 05/07 films again where Ben kept returning human and Doom spends most of the time without a mask.

I think they should give the Doom the Vader treatment of having a different person voicing him. While with Ben we have to hope they find an actor who's fine with only showing up at the beginning of the film then being a voice for the rest, if they show up at all.

So is the question: Should there be different actors doing mo-cap and voice/pre-transformation characters?

I think that might be best, but todays technology allows a number of options (including different actors/stunt-people) performing different tasks.

With Ben, for example, I imagine one actor playing Ben pre-transformation and also doing the voice. I'd imagine that actor would also put on a mo-cap suit to do some scenes, but I'd also imagine they'll have special actors for certain scenes - like a 6'8" muscular guy doing some scenes in which they want someone in a mo-cap suit who can interact with the environment and be roughly the size of The Thing.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

I pretty much agree.



How do you guys think they should tackle Ben and Doom? Unlike Hulk, Ben can't transform back and forth between being human and the Thing and Dr Doom always wears a mask.

Some actors have a problem being hidden throughout a film, I don't want this to be like the 05/07 films again where Ben kept returning human and Doom spends most of the time without a mask.

I think they should give the Doom the Vader treatment of having a different person voicing him. While with Ben we have to hope they find an actor who's fine with only showing up at the beginning of the film then being a voice for the rest, if they show up at all.

Hire an actor to play Doom who doesn't mind having his face hidden, and cares more about being an actor than he does about being a movie star. I want an actor to play Doom on set and not in a recording booth.

The Thing is likely going to be mo-capped by the actor playing Ben Grim, as he should be. He needs to be a fully CGI character in order to be able to be as big as he is in the comics and to move the way he does in the comics (a guy in a rubber suit will always have his movement hampered, and his acting hampered). I hope they go full on Classic Kirby for the design.

 

[Detective Conan]

I think they should give the Doom the Vader treatment of having a different person voicing him. While with Ben we have to hope they find an actor who's fine with only showing up at the beginning of the film then being a voice for the rest, if they show up at all.

Speaking about Darth Vader, they should totally go the Vader route and make Doom horrifically disfigured underneath the armor and not just slightly scarred. I think that's a lot more frightening.

This is going sound controversial but I really want them to get away from the original Jack Kirby idea of Victor wearing the mask because he couldn't bear to have his slightly scarred face public. I mean understand what Kirby was going for by doing that since it reveals Doom's central character flaw: He's a perfectionist to a fault. He's obsessed with being perfect, being the best, because for him there's no other such existence, deep down he loathes that existence because such an existence would be beneath him. That drives his feud with Richards because Doom would never ever settle for #2.

In that sense, he's intrinsically childish and quite petty in his vendetta...but the Story movies sort of already did that and I would want MCU Doom to be as different as possible from the versions seen in Tim Story/Trank disaster-pieces.

 

[Dark Raven]

Julian McMahon for Doom for his 3rd go round!!

 

[UltimatePyro9]

Well, he's now Jonah in the Runaways series, so... I got it! Bring back Toby Kebbell. Not for Doom, mind you. I think he could work as a potential Mole Man!

 

[Detective Conan]

Julian McMahon for Doom for his 3rd go round!!

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[Dark Raven]

Well, he's now Jonah in the Runaways series, so... I got it! Bring back Toby Kebbell. Not for Doom, mind you. I think he could work as a potential Mole Man!

McMahon and Kebbell for Doom and Doombot.

 

[fan4stic]

Dan Stevens as Reed Richards/Mr. Fantastic

Alison Brie as Susan Storm/The Invisible Woman

Joel Kinnaman as Ben Grimm/The Thing

Taron Egerton as Johnny Storm/The Human Torch

Oscar Isaac as Victor Von Doom/Doctor Doom

 

[UltimatePyro9]

I'd say no to Joel Kinnaman. I thought he was utterly forgettable and bland in Suicide Squad (admittedly, the script didn't help).

 

[LaughterLives]

 

[fan4stic]

I'd say no to Joel Kinnaman. I thought he was utterly forgettable and bland in Suicide Squad (admittedly, the script didn't help).

Admittedly he's the best I got. He's a solid age, tall, Jewish. Though, I've seen Jason Segel as an option passed around and I thought that was a pretty inspired idea. But I was going for a more typically handsome turned into a monster vibe and no offense to Segel, but his voice is softer than I'd imagine Ben's being. But maybe that's just me.

 

[wobbly]

For Ben Grimm someone like Robert Kazinsky would suit imo:

Thought he was very Ben like in that short lived 'Second Chance' series.

 

[Detective Conan]

Doctor Doom is a great villain but am I the one one who thinks his name is a bit goofy and on-the-nose? I don't think characters should be even refer him as Doctor Doom just 'Doom' or 'Victor'. I just can't see any actor saying his full-name without chuckling.