The Rebooted "Keep Hope Alive" (that the rights can revert back to Marvel) Thread - - - - - - - - - - Part 19

[Raiden]

I get that they're unlikely to have their prop master commission Renaissance armor for Doctor Doom, but the Iron Man armor was only slow and cumbersome because they made it that way.

I've seen a lot of cosplayers making the Iron Man armor flexible and easy to move around. You'd think with a lot more money Marvel Studios can make it even better than amateurs.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Roberts is really in a bind. If he pushes the Fox piece any higher he may very well end up losing the piece he wants most. It may be weeks, if ever really, before we see what his next move. Logic would dictate he back down and focus on Sky's 61% instead, but where is the fun in logic?

Yeah, I think we're at a point where they have a choice:

A. Bid $90 billion on Fox, hope that's enough to scare away Disney and give up on Sky.

B. Focus on Sky, make sure you get the portion of Sky that's for sale and work with Disney to get the rest.

It might require some effort to get Disney to give up their share of Sky, but they'll do it for a whole lot less than $90 billion. And Comcast has Hulk, Namor and Theme park rights to sweeten the pot.

If Sky is really a priority for Comcast, I think their best chance, whether they like it or not, is to work with Disney.

 

[Dark Raven]

Fox desperately trying to avoid selling to Comcast

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/06/fox-desperately-trying-to-avoid-selling-to-comcast/

I don't know how accurate this article is and whether Fox are actually desperately trying to avoid selling to Comcast. No-one is forcing them to sell to them. If they don't want to sell, just tell Comcast that they won't entertain anymore bids, no matter how high they go. Why not just vote on the Disney deal instead and be done with it?

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Fox desperately trying to avoid selling to Comcast

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/06/fox-desperately-trying-to-avoid-selling-to-comcast/

I don't know how accurate this article is and whether Fox are actually desperately trying to avoid selling to Comcast. No-one is forcing them to sell to them. If they don't want to sell, just tell Comcast that they won't entertain anymore bids, no matter how high they go. Why not just vote on the Disney deal instead and be done with it?

It's a bit of a silly article (or hugely misleading title). First off, Disney has the best offer and Comcast only had the best offer for a couple days, so there's no decision for Fox to even make.

And of course Disney is more attractive, particularly now that they've been approved, but Fox is the opposite of 'desperate'. The Fox board and Fox shareholders would LOVE for Comcast to make an offer so crazy it would make them think about giving up the sure thing.

But such an offer would be... crazy... so it's unlikely to happen.

 

[Bach]

It might require some effort to get Disney to give up their share of Sky, but they'll do it for a whole lot less than $90 billion. And Comcast has Hulk, Namor and Theme park rights to sweeten the pot.

If Sky is really a priority for Comcast, I think their best chance, whether they like it or not, is to work with Disney.

That's what I'm expecting.

 

[ADollarADay]

21CF filed an S4

https://www.secinfo.com/d14D5a.j64rj.htm

 

[Dark Raven]

21CF filed an S4

https://www.secinfo.com/d14D5a.j64rj.htm

What does that mean?

 

[Boom]

What does that mean?

It's a form they have to file with the SEC in the event of a merger.

 

[The Infernal]

Yeah. Enquiring plebs want to know.

Edit: Boom beat me to the punch.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

21CF filed an S4

https://www.secinfo.com/d14D5a.j64rj.htm

This is the sort of thing that makes me feel that Comcast needs to speak now or forever hold their peace. They can’t just come out of nowhere with a new offer several weeks from now.

Unless they tell Fox they intend to make another offer, Fox will continue moving forward and soon it will be absolutely too late.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Random question:

Again if everything goes according to plan, from now on will the MCU F4, X-Men movies still have the 21CF logo with the Marvel Studios one? Since it's a merger? Just was wondering.

 

[Spider-Fan]

It's not a merger. Disney is buying assets from FOX. They're not merging companies together. This is something people need to get straight about this deal. Fox will still exist as a company, they just won't own the assets Disney is buying anymore.

That said, I think the logo will likely stay.

 

[MasterCat]

I thought they were merging with 21st Century Fox, which was legally separated from another part of Rupert Bear's media empire?

 

[Kuwolski]

Random question:

Again if everything goes according to plan, from now on will the MCU F4, X-Men movies still have the 21CF logo with the Marvel Studios one? Since it's a merger? Just was wondering.

They'll have the Marvel Studios logo if they are produced by Marvel Studios, which they will be. I'm not sure about DP, he may remain under the Fox banner, same goes for X-Force. I think Feige's true ambition lies with bringing the X-Men an FF into the MCU and will let the successful (beloved) DP universe exist on it's own. We'll see.

 

[Zarex]

It's not a merger. Disney is buying assets from FOX. They're not merging companies together. This is something people need to get straight about this deal. Fox will still exist as a company, they just won't own the assets Disney is buying anymore.

That said, I think the logo will likely stay.

It's an acquisition immediately following a spin-off of New Fox from Old Fox.

My thinking is the Fox name will stay with the Murdochs and the film and television studios will get rebranded as "Twenty First Century Films" and Twenty First Century Television" but retain the searchlight logo.

 

[Spider-Fan]

It's an acquisition immediately following a spin-off of New Fox from Old Fox.

My thinking is the Fox name will stay with the Murdochs and the film and television studios will get rebranded as "Twenty First Century Films" and Twenty First Century Television" but retain the searchlight logo.

It's not a merger in anyway. It's an assets sale. If it were a merger, they would be making a new company, like a Fox-Disney or something like that. That is not the case. The company is still Disney. Disney is absorbing a large portion of the FOX's assets. It's 100% different.

 

[Kuwolski]

I wonder what will happen to the Simpsons themed attractions at Universal Studios? I visit the one in Universal City a few times a year and the Duff Beer Garden is where I end up spending a lot of time cooling down.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I wonder what will happen to the Simpsons themed attractions at Universal Studios? I visit the one in Universal City a few times a year and the Duff Beer Garden is where I end up spending a lot of time cooling down.

Universal no doubt has a contract for that. For how long, I don't know.

 

[honestbharani]

It's not a merger in anyway. It's an assets sale. If it were a merger, they would be making a new company, like a Fox-Disney or something like that. That is not the case. The company is still Disney. Disney is absorbing a large portion of the FOX's assets. It's 100% different.

You are partly right but its much more of an acquisition than just an assets sale. 21CF will be acquired by Disney.

 

[Kuwolski]

Universal no doubt has a contract for that. For how long, I don't know.

I wonder if Disney could use this in negotiations to potentially keep Comcast focused on Sky? A much smaller fish but the Simpson's are a pretty big part of the Universal Studios fabric. The same goes for Spidey and Hulk down in Orlando. Those attractions are a massive draw.

 

[Spider-Fan]

You are partly right but its much more of an acquisition than just an assets sale. 21CF will be acquired by Disney.

Acquisition is probably the right word, yes. But it is not in anyway a merger. That is my point. So many keep using that term incorrectly in this case.

 

[InCali]

The Thing looks amazing there. That design is tailor fit for the big screen.

What about this one?

https://www.google.com/search?q=fan...DZawKHYDJCwcQ_h0IpgIwGg#imgrc=lvQYcau9EKk0kM:

 

[Zarex]

It's not a merger in anyway. It's an assets sale. If it were a merger, they would be making a new company, like a Fox-Disney or something like that. That is not the case. The company is still Disney. Disney is absorbing a large portion of the FOX's assets. It's 100% different.

It's not an assets sale, either, as Disney is acquiring the company 21st Century Fox. New Fox is the new company.

 

[Spider-Fan]

It's not an assets sale, either, as Disney is acquiring the company 21st Century Fox. New Fox is the new company.

Like above post, acquisition is the correct word. New Fox is the new company Fox is making, yes. But a merger entails the 2 companies come together to form their own new company. Example: AOL-Time Warner. That is not happening here. Fox is making their new company, yes. But Disney still will exist as Disney. Therefore it is not a merger.

 

[MasterCat]

It's the acquisition of a publicly-traded corporation, which is similar to a merger without the silly name change.