The Rebooted "Keep Hope Alive" (that the rights can revert back to Marvel) Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 22

[Detective Conan]

Christopher Mcquarrie is one of my top picks to helm the MCU Fantastic Four film.

 

[Marvel united]

I want Brad Bird

 

[Detective Conan]

Too obvious. Bird likely wouldn’t want to do something he already sort of did on animation in live-action form. Bird doesn’t like repeating himself and likely wouldn’t be interested.

 

[Darkprime]

I want Brad Bird

I doubt hed do it. To similar to the incredibles. But I get thats why everyone wants him to do it but i think hed be bored by it. It would be the incredibles in live action.

 

[Random490]

I will admit im skeptical the xmen will join the mcu. We know the F4 will. But id say xmen is still a coin toss. Yes it will happen eventually but i think theyll wait and see how dark phoenix does and get deadpool 3 out. I wonder if Fox put something in writing that says disney and marvel studios must wait a certain amount of time before integrating the xmen. Or they have to at least consider merging the mcu with the fox verse.

The xmen universe is so large it could be its own universe with the f4. With the odd avengers crossover

More of a matter of when and not if. I agree that X-men as a property is large enough to be it's own cinematic universe there's no reason not to eventually include them to the MCU. While I think Marvel will immediate put F4 on the schedule I think they'll hold off on X-men. We've had a pretty consistent string of X-films for the better part of 2 decades (Seriously, first X-men film came out in 2000). I think the general audience needs a bit of a separation period in order to get excited about a new X-men film. I could see/hope for a scenario where Marvel would decide Dark Phoenix to be the last X-men film, but let Fox continue with a few more Deadpool and X-Force films. Allow fans to enjoy those franchises, specially since they'll be so different from the MCU reboot version that it'll feel like a breath of fresh air for the franchise.

Kind of a surreal moment. After this the MCU is basically complete. Just those pesky spiderman rights to sort out and hulk and namor.

I know, right? Few years ago this was a pipe dream. Now X-men and F4 are pretty much lock, we got Spider-man (minus four members of his rogues gallery), Marvel can have it's cake and eat it too with Hulk, and I was never interested in Namor (and would be unlikely to show up after Aquaman). For me this is pretty much it.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I don’t know if I want a director who talks about ‘Toxic fans’. To me, that just tells me he doesn’t get it. I think most Marvel directors would agree that they love the fans. Comic book fans aren’t toxic. They just know what they want. Give them what they want, and they’ll love you.

Peyton Reed wouldn’t complain about toxic fans, because he is a fan.

 

[TheVileOne]

Sometimes fans want different things though. You can't please everybody.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Sometimes fans want different things though. You can't please everybody.

True, but have you ever heard an outcry from fans when things have followed the comic books? The only time there’s any notable response is when someone goes a direction that is clearly different than the comic books.

In terms of ‘wanting different things’ comic book fans aren’t any different than any film fans. What sets us apart is we actually want the same things (Doom in armor, Galactus as a big purple guy, Thing with a brow etc.) and will act as one cohesive and loud unit if we don’t get those things.

A director of a comic book film has a unique job - respect the comic books. Do that and fans won’t complain.

A director needs to recognize that and understand the key elements of whatever property they’re working with and work within that framework. If they don’t do that fans will complain.

As long as they work within that franework and make a good film, the fans will LOVE them.

 

[Timebomb]

So do we actually think that Dark Pheonix and New Mutants gets released or do they get shelved.

 

[MasterCat]

(Sigh) None of the six X-Men films has lost money, so that's a minimum of $180 million net to the studio that releases it. Disney will be deep in debt.

 

[Marvel united]

(Sigh) None of the six X-Men films has lost money, so that's a minimum of $180 million net to the studio that releases it. Disney will be deep in debt.

Chump change compared to the 71 Billion Disney is paying for Fox.

 

[MasterCat]

Because Disney just lost $71 billion in an unknown combination of cash and stock, they must want to lose another >$180 million dollars to meet some fanboy demand that can't be explained to shareholders .
Logical!

 

[Dark Raven]

Because Disney just lost $71 billion in an unknown combination of cash and stock, they want to lose another >$180 million dollars to meet some fanboy demand that can't be explained to shareholders .
Logical!

They're going to be making a lot selling the sports networks. Didn't you see that article I posted that it's all set for the biggest bidding war in 30 years when Disney gets Fox on Friday?

 

[Detective Conan]

I don’t know if I want a director who talks about ‘Toxic fans’. To me, that just tells me he doesn’t get it. I think most Marvel directors would agree that they love the fans. Comic book fans aren’t toxic. They just know what they want. Give them what they want, and they’ll love you.

Peyton Reed wouldn’t complain about toxic fans, because he is a fan.

To be fair, he’s not calling out all fandom, mind you. Just the more zealous and odious factions of the fanbase who harass filmmakers/actors routinely. Those are the ‘toxic’ fans he’s referring to.

Let’s use me for example. I don’t care for the Tim Story films, in fact it’s fair to say I have an open disdain for them but I’m the rational fan that’s not going to send death threats or harass the director of a film I didn’t like on social media. The worst I can do is criticize Story’s films on an internet board(such as this and that would be the end of it). I am able to have a civil discourse over a film I disliked without being an obnoxious jerk. These ‘toxic’ fans aren’t referring to people like me or you but a boisterous minority that simply are unable behave in a mature manner & are quite inflammatory.

And I would agree with you, comic fans aren’t toxic..for the most part but there are undeniably parts of the fanbase that are who do deplorable stuff like harass and send death threats.

And funny enough Reed has kind of also addressed these ‘toxic’ fans.

 

[Darkraid]

Best thing is to have Beast as an Avenger.

Also have Torch as a partner in Spider-Man 3.

 

[Dark Raven]

The Countdown Continues

Spoiler

The 27th is a week away now.

Six days now until the meeting

5 days to go now until the shareholder's meeting:

Fantastic 4 days until the meeting

3 Days to Go, and a Winter Soldier reference:

Two days now...

One Day left

 

[Crimz]

[YT]Yop62wQH498[/YT]

 

[Darkprime]

Who could Clooney play in the MCU?

 

[BaronZemo]

There are toxic fans. Lots of them. And beause fans comic book accuracy it doesn't mean IT THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE A COMIC BOOK MOVIE. Comics aren't the Bible.

By giving fans what they want means that as long there is accuracy the rest of the movie can go to hell in terms of quality. This mentality is way a portion of fans called Affleck the best Batman because of the warehouse fight.

They wanted a superficial kick-butter Batman like the Arkham games and they didn't give a damn about characterisation. They focused on that and the shallow "awe" of the fight and started making ridiculous statements.

Caving to fans is a dangerous path for great directors. Just because they have a certain movie already planned int heir heads it doesn't mean it's the only version that works.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Who could Clooney play in the MCU?

Willie Lumpkin. t:

 

[DyfeddRex]

Who could Clooney play in the MCU?

Forbush Man

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

There are toxic fans. Lots of them. And beause fans comic book accuracy it doesn't mean IT THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE A COMIC BOOK MOVIE. Comics aren't the Bible.

By giving fans what they want means that as long there is accuracy the rest of the movie can go to hell in terms of quality. This mentality is way a portion of fans called Affleck the best Batman because of the warehouse fight.

They wanted a superficial kick-butter Batman like the Arkham games and they didn't give a damn about characterisation. They focused on that and the shallow "awe" of the fight and started making ridiculous statements.

Caving to fans is a dangerous path for great directors. Just because they have a certain movie already planned int heir heads it doesn't mean it's the only version that works.

I don't think the kinds of things fans complain about limit the ability of a talented director to tell a great story.

There are certain basic things that have to be maintained. Superman is a good-guy, not an ambiguous, conflicted character. Clark Kent is a reporter, not a dentist. Superman wears a blue suit and red cape, not a green suit with yellow cape.

I think the real problem is when arrogant directors ignore those things and feel they can 'reinvent' the characters.

I can't think of any notable examples of fan rage that prevented a talented director from telling a good story. Fans just want some of those basic elements and directors should only take the job if they're willing to recognize that and respect that.

I LOVE, absolutely love David Fincher's work, but I don't want him touching the FF if he doesn't want to make an FF film. And any director who truly does want to make an FF film and makes good decisions in that regard won't get any grief from me or other fans.

 

[Dark Raven]

Willie Lumpkin. t:

From once being considered for Reed Richards to being demoted to Willie Lumpkin.

What a revolting development!

 

[WeaponXCII]

I was hoping to continue the trend with a Marvel movie poster, but this'll have to do:

 

[Abudefduf]

The Countdown Continues

One Day left

Spoiler

I'm surprised. I thought for sure you would post this one.

Twenty years (of Fox-verse movies). Two people (Iger and Roberts). Theirs is not a love story, though.