The Rebooted "Keep Hope Alive" (that the rights can revert back to Marvel) Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 23

[Endeavor]

Also, they stole the background music from some other movie right? I've heard it before.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I'll be damned they sure did. Watching that whole trailer again, it feels like a DCEU movie.

Ouch!

 

[Abudefduf]

I thought the Skrulls were going to be in CM.

They are, and everyone knows it except that Forbes writer, apparently.

 

[EnDz0n3]

They do an X-Men show there?

I wish. No, they’re just stationed at different locations, with people lining up to take pictures/selfies with them. Oh I forgot there was a Wolverine too

 

[Iceman]

I wish. No, they’re just stationed at different locations, with people lining up to take pictures/selfies with them. Oh I forgot there was a Wolverine too

Ah ok. Still sounds pretty cool. And maybe X-Men will take off after the first few MCU films and we’ll start getting stuff like shows as a result.

 

[Fallen]

The Dark Phoenix thread, wow. They are comparing the worldwide gross of Ant-Man and X-MEN. Can't wait for Marvel Studios to reboot the X-Men franchise.

The X-Men deserve better.

 

[Big Bang]

I JUST watched the new Venon trailer.



I can't wait for this inevitable dumpster fire of a film!

Yeah, I think my wallet is going to vote "No" on this one.

 

[Sardaukar]

So what's up with the rights to Hulk and Namor? How does Universal get away with not making those movies for so long? And does Sony still have the rights to Spidey ad infinitum?

 

[Big Bang]

So what's up with the rights to Hulk and Namor? How does Universal get away with not making those movies for so long? And does Sony still have the rights to Spidey ad infinitum?

Hulk rights held by Universal are distribution only. Namor is messier.

 

[Endeavor]

Hulk rights held by Universal are distribution only. Namor is messier.

That is an assumption.
The only thing we know for sure is Universal was given rights and they were planning to make it "Star Wars under water" (Arad's words), which went nowhere.
Then Feige said a vague comment about Namor being complicated in an interview and ppl have run with those words and spun it into theories about the creator. But we don't know if that's what Feige was talking about or simply the lingering distribution rights that Universal holds.

 

[EnDz0n3]

I still remember Marvel unceremoniously yanking Salvador Larroca from doing the art for X-treme X-men, so Salva can work on a Namor series that was supposedly being groomed to be the next film adaptation. Needless to say, nothing came out of it except for Igor Kordey taking over the art chores for X-treme, and you can just google his art...it ain’t pretty.

 

[Endeavor]

Yeah that was a mess. And that Namor book went nowhere.
They were trying to make him into Aspen i think.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

First Black Panther, then Infinity War, and now Incredibles 2 just made a billion dollars.

Disney is truly an unstoppable juggernaut (no pun). I can only imagine the box office for Marvel's Uncanny X-Men.

 

[Phoenix_Flare]

First Black Panther, then Infinity War, and now Incredibles 2 just made a billion dollars.

Disney is truly an unstoppable juggernaut (no pun). I can only imagine the box office for Marvel's Uncanny X-Men.

So for the first X-Men movie do you guys think the future director/writers should start off huge with a film on the first Avengers level or start off with a smaller film like how Deadpool did. I’m only asking because I don’t want the GA to get X-Men fatigued and the movie doesn’t do a billion dollars.

 

[Marvel united]

So for the first X-Men movie do you guys think the future director/writers should start off huge with a film on the first Avengers level or start off with a smaller film like how Deadpool did. I’m only asking because I don’t want the GA to get X-Men fatigued and the movie doesn’t do a billion dollars.

Somewhere on the level of the first Avengers. It should be their first public mission saving the world or a city from an evil mutant. Unlike the Avengers, all X-Men movies don't have to be huge, epic scale stories. Some of them can deal with much more personal conflicts and drama.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

So for the first X-Men movie do you guys think the future director/writers should start off huge with a film on the first Avengers level or start off with a smaller film like how Deadpool did. I’m only asking because I don’t want the GA to get X-Men fatigued and the movie doesn’t do a billion dollars.

I think they should build it slowly like they did with Avengers. Introduce maybe two or three characters in one film, then few more in another and only bring them all together after we've gotten to know them a little bit.

A big problem with Fox's X-Men is we didn't really get to know the characters.

That strategy would allow us to know the characters and care about them, and then by the third or fourth film, they can all come together in one big X-Men film. Then split off again into smaller teams.

By working with them as smaller groups, not only will it allow us to know them better, but each film will feel unique because of the mix of characters.

A Cyclops/Collosus/Jean Grey film will feel very different from a Wolverine/Gambit/Rogue film etc.

 

[Big Bang]

That is an assumption.
The only thing we know for sure is Universal was given rights and they were planning to make it "Star Wars under water" (Arad's words), which went nowhere.
Then Feige said a vague comment about Namor being complicated in an interview and ppl have run with those words and spun it into theories about the creator. But we don't know if that's what Feige was talking about or simply the lingering distribution rights that Universal holds.

Well, more of an observation. Given how much confusion has been surrounding the rights situation.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

I think they should build it slowly like they did with Avengers. Introduce maybe two or three characters in one film, then few more in another and only bring them all together after we've gotten to know them a little bit.

A big problem with Fox's X-Men is we didn't really get to know the characters.

That strategy would allow us to know the characters and care about them, and then by the third or fourth film, they can all come together in one big X-Men film. Then split off again into smaller teams.

By working with them as smaller groups, not only will it allow us to know them better, but each film will feel unique because of the mix of characters.

A Cyclops/Collosus/Jean Grey film will feel very different from a Wolverine/Gambit/Rogue film etc.

I don't think the buildup is necessary, for a few reasons.

1) This would be far less of an event film than Avengers was and
2) ensembles can be introduced just fine while giving each character their due. The first Guardians showed us that.

I don't think we need an X-men team any bigger than 6 or 7 mutants.

 

[Detective Conan]

Can anyone explain to me what’s up with Hardy’s accent in this movie? It sounds horrible.

Like what is he even doing with that? It sounds super-annoying.

I don’t know if I can sit in a theater for two in a half hours listing to that guy.

 

[The Infernal]

I think you need a team of about four or five X-men. Anything less feels a bit lacking. Still a fan of the idea of introducing them to the audience through a new recruit like Jubilee.

 

[Marvel united]

Would love if they went with the 05 plus Storm

 

[Xeno]

Can anyone explain to me what’s up with Hardy’s accent in this movie? It’s sound horrible.

Like what is even doing with that? It sounds super-annoying.

I don’t know if I can sit in a theater for two in a half hours listing to that guy.

Hardy does weird voices in his cbm roles for some reason. His Eddie Brock accent sounds so bizarre that it's impossible to tell where the character is supposed to be from. Perhaps he needs a voice coach who can help him develop a good Brooklyn/Queens accent. Tom Holland could give him some pointers on that.

Hardy's Brock voice isn't anywhere near as annoying as the WC Fields impression he gave when playing Bane, however. The guy was supposed to be a cold-blooded brute of a killer but he sounded comical.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I think part of what he's trying to do with the voice is make Eddie sound 'slow' - like he's not very bright or educated.

That is his shtick, he likes to do unique voices, phrasing, pacing etc., and I think it's something of a 'love-it' or 'hate-it'. Sometimes, like in this case, it sounds like he's just doing it to be different, and that's distracting - at least in the quick clips here. Maybe it will work better when he strings more lines together.

My biggest problems were:

1. Venom's lines just sounded... dumb.
2. The story looks cliche' and dull (bad corporate guys screwing with things they don't understand) and the whole thing looking like an excuse to make a fairly standard action flick.
3. The special effects looked cheap and unnatural (and it looks like they probably avoid having him go full Venom very often to save on money - I'm betting we've already seen a good chunk of the actual Venom screen-time).

I'll pass. It just doesn't look like a good movie.

 

[GoblinScrier]

I think part of what he's trying to do with the voice is make Eddie sound 'slow' - like he's not very bright or educated.

That is his shtick, he likes to do unique voices, phrasing, pacing etc., and I think it's something of a 'love-it' or 'hate-it'. Sometimes, like in this case, it sounds like he's just doing it to be different, and that's distracting - at least in the quick clips here. Maybe it will work better when he strings more lines together.

My biggest problems were:

1. Venom's lines just sounded... dumb.
2. The story looks cliche' and dull (bad corporate guys screwing with things they don't understand) and the whole thing looking like an excuse to make a fairly standard action flick.
3. The special effects looked cheap and unnatural (and it looks like they probably avoid having him go full Venom very often to save on money - I'm betting we've already seen a good chunk of the actual Venom screen-time).

I'll pass. It just doesn't look like a good movie.

I did smile when he said the "Pancreas, lungs, make for good snacks" line...that is lifted from Amazing Spiderman #374...classic venom

 

[Fallen]