The Rebooted "Keep Hope Alive" (that the rights can revert back to Marvel) Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 24

[Spider-Fan]

Were the Dracula films part of a wider universe maintained by a visionary with a very specific vision? Ditto for Bond. And these movies came out in a completely different Hollywood landscape. 40 years ago.

"Last time I was New York, I kinda broke... Harlem." That's a vague reference. Betty, Blonsky and Ross (at first) did not return in The Avengers. Every other main Avenger had a supporting character in TA.

That's why I say Hulk is a more apt comparison. Feige didn't even want Norton in 2008, he wanted Ruffalo from the get go. And once they had a falling out, they recast Banner and redesigned Hulk. Only vaguely referencing the events that happened in TIH. Marvel was reluctant to embrace Hulk's solo and that's because of Universal's involvement and even now, they still treat TIH as the redheaded step child of the MCU. It didn't even get a special Blu Ray re-release like all of the other films. Daredevil is an even more extreme version of the situation with Universal because Feige had nothing at all to do with the creation of the Cox Daredevil. He had no input and his vision may be significantly different than Loeb and Drew Goddard.

Vague or not, it is a reference. This is not an opinion, it is a fact. End of discussion. When has Iron Man referenced IM3 outside of when he said he "Trashed his suits" in CW. That is just as vague, so by your logic, the MCU is ignoring IM3!!!!

 

[Spider-Fan]

"Likely" is not exactly strong wording. That sounds like conjecture.

 

[Darkprime]

A bit off topic but hearing Travis Knight talk about bumblebee you can tell the guy is a huge fan of transformers If hes that passionate about Guardians and Marvel I am so down for him to direct Volume 3.

 

[Bach]

"Likely" is not exactly strong wording. That sounds like conjecture.

What does it say? It isn't loading for me on mobile.

A bit off topic but hearing Travis Knight talk about bumblebee you can tell the guy is a huge fan of transformers If hes that passionate about Guardians and Marvel I am so down for him to direct Volume 3.

Yeah. As surprising as it sounds, Bumblebee looks at least interesting. Isn't that the same guy that directed Kubo?

 

[Darkprime]

Isn't that the same guy that directed Kubo?

Yep. I can see why Feige would be looking at Travis. Especially if Volume 3 is the last with the current guardians .They'll want someone who can tell a real emotional story. Bumblebee looks like it might be the first one transformers movie to actually have some emotion and Kubo while not my type of movie Ive heard is excellent.

 

[PsylockeBlackWidow]

CADE’s General Superintendence to Decide on Fox/Disney by Early Next Week.

 

[WeaponXCII]

CADE’s General Superintendence to Decide on Fox/Disney by Early Next Week.

Fantastic (how do you say "fantastic" in Portuguese? I only speak Spanish. ) news! Really surprised based on their position with this that a decision would be so imminent.

 

[Detective Conan]

Haste makes waste.

 

[Shuri]

I hope they keep Cox, D'Onofrio, Bernthal, Ritter and Missick for a start.

Love you for this! you just mentioned everyone I want them to keep. ....Oh add Elodie Yung and I won't ask Marvel anything for a year..okay two months.

 

[Shuri]

I'd be willing to keep everyone, even Finn Jones, who I think suffered more from poor writing than anything else.

 

[Dark Raven]

Another question is, will Disney be okay with it? You bring back Cox, you are bringing with him allusions to a series that is much darker and much more mature than any MCU film to date. Will Disney want to lead young viewers on a trail to finding the R-rated Daredevil on Netflix? I personally don't think so.

I don't think the darker and more mature content is really going to be a problem.

First off, even in their cartoons, Marvel have used characters like the Punisher who is traditionally associated with very dark material. Yet they used him in Spider-Man. They've also used DD as well. I doubt people are going to keep dwelling on how these have been used in previous Netflix shows when they see them together with other heroes.

And second, audiences seem very adaptable to changes. Thor and Thor: The Dark World were much darker and more serious movies. Thor: Ragnarok was suddenly a fun 80s-style romp similar to Guardians. The first two movies compared to the third are like night and day. They are worlds apart.

They can have the likes of DD or Power Man and Iron Fist in lighter comic films. Just because they've been in darker series doesn't mean they have to be stuck in that. It's the same as in real life. Some people are always in serious situations. Doesn't mean they can't suddenly be in more light-hearted ones.

And third, they've had actors who have been associated with more serious or adult material at some point. We don't keep associating them with that when they play their Marvel characters on screen. Do we think the likes of Samuel L Jackson are now not fitting with Disney's more family-oriented films because he loves swearing in almost all of his other movies?

Audiences will get over any so-called "allusions" to darker material in the MCU. They may not even think of it when they see them alongside other heroes. Is that honestly the first thing you think people will think if they saw DD alongside Spidey on the big screen rather than being overjoyed to see the two of them finally together?

 

[Marvel united]

CADE’s General Superintendence to Decide on Fox/Disney by Early Next Week.

Let's go!!! 2 days, guys. And once Brazil is out of the way, what will be left? We should be getting a close date soon.

 

[Detective Conan]

Here’s the countries that are left if/when Brazil approves of the merger according to @ADollarADay

Japan
Australia
UK
Israel
South Korea
Mexico
Russia

 

[PsylockeBlackWidow]

Here’s the countries that are left if/when Brazil approves of the merger according to @ADollarADay

Japan
Australia
UK
Israel
South Korea
Mexico
Russia

I think at least most or some of those countries may have approved the deal quietly, and even so, they seem not to be important as the major ones are.

 

[WeaponXCII]

Here’s the countries that are left if/when Brazil approves of the merger according to @ADollarADay

Japan
Australia
UK
Israel
South Korea
Mexico
Russia

If I remember correctly, it was only maybe a month or two ago that I was lamenting the fact that we only had one third of the approvals down, and here we are with almost one third left- feels like they really picked up steam with this! Should be done a couple months into the year at most.

 

[Darkprime]

‘Daredevil’ and Other Cancelled Marvel Netflix Series Would be Rebooted Under Disney, Suggests Industry Expert

 

[Bach]

Like he mentioned, that's just a possibility. We don't yet what's going to happen with these shows and characters, things are too uncertain.

• They could move the characters to Disney+ and reboot them while keeping the same actors.
• They could move the characters to Disney+ and reboot them while casting new actors.
  
• They could move the characters to Hulu and not reboot them.

Which of the three has the most chance of happening? In case they move Marvel TV under Marvel Studios, the first two options are the most likely.

 

[PsylockeBlackWidow]

I really hate the fact that this need to go through international regulators and nothing we can do about it. What happens if Marvel uses X-Men characters in MCU movies before the deal closes, what would happen to the deal?

 

[Darkprime]

I really hate the fact that this need to go through international regulators and nothing we can do about it. What happens if Marvel uses X-Men characters in MCU movies before the deal closes, what would happen to the deal?

Disney and Fox can not communicate until the deal closes. Its just the way it is. Otherwise it would be seen as collusion which is illegal. And the deal would be at risk. I believe they can internally start planning some rough ideas correct me if I'm wrong. But they cant hire anyone to work on the movies officially until its done.

 

[wobbly]

Officially they can't do anything with the properties still under Fox. Will be zero development on them until the deal is finalized.

Unofficially I would imagine Feige and others are at least brewing up ideas on what they can do with them.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Punisher has been done lots, but Netflix was the first time he was done well. Likewise, Daredevil has never been nearly as good as this version (other than the comics). Not even close. That's why I'm not exactly celebrating this.

 

[Iceman]

Punisher has been done lots, but Netflix was the first time he was done well. Likewise, Daredevil has never been nearly as good as this version (other than the comics). Not even close. That's why I'm not exactly celebrating this.

Bernthal wishes he was convincing enough to be in Punisher: Warzone.

 

[Iceman]

Officially they can't do anything with the properties still under Fox. Will be zero development on them until the deal is finalized.

Unofficially I would imagine Feige and others are at least brewing up ideas on what they can do with them.

Feige is a master-planner and that's (part of) why we love him.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Punisher has been done lots, but Netflix was the first time he was done well. Likewise, Daredevil has never been nearly as good as this version (other than the comics). Not even close. That's why I'm not exactly celebrating this.

I would not celebrate this, and further I would not support those rebooted movies with my money. Period. I would skip those. I love these movies and what Feige has done, but that doesn't mean he is infallible or that I have to support every decision Marvel makes our every property, and I would voice my displeasure with such a move very vocally and monetarily by not supporting those films.

In any case, all these articles are speculatory. Wake me up when we see something concrete. Feige and co could always have their mins changed even if that is their opinion today. No reboot of these would even happen for years.

More likely, I see there characters just not getting used for a long time if they don't bring the shows back.

 

[Tymminator]

I think all the Netflix stuff will end up on Hulu myself. Time will tell.