The Rebooted "Keep Hope Alive" (that the rights can revert back to Marvel) Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 24

[Web-Head]

X2, Days of Future Past and Deadpool are the only props I will ever give Fox-Men.

DoFP actually felt comic booky, even if Storm only had 3 lines.

Logan?!

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Logan?!

I still haven’t seen it... once I heard the X-Men were killed off, I wasn’t interested.

 

[Marvel united]

I still haven’t seen it... once I heard the X-Men were killed off, I wasn’t interested.

You should definitely check it out. It closes the series out perfectly

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

You should definitely check it out. It closes the series out perfectly

Eh, it’s on the to do list. I’ve seen bits and pieces though.

Thank God this acquisition happened, we could treat this whole Foxverse like Dragon Ball GT, it never happened!!

 

[Smurphftw]

You should definitely check it out. It closes the series out perfectly

I thought DoFP was the perfect ending to the Fox-Men. It ended on a very hopeful note and had a nice sense of closure.

Although I thought Logan was quite good and a fitting end to Hugh Jackman's portrayal of the character, it really kind of sh!ts all over DoFP's hopeful ending.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

I thought DoFP was the perfect ending to the Fox-Men. It ended on a very hopeful note and had a nice sense of closure.

Although I thought Logan was quite good and a fitting end to Hugh Jackman's portrayal of the character, it really kind of sh!ts all over DoFP's hopeful ending.

And that’s what turned me off to the whole thing. They went to all that trouble of repairing the future, crossing timelines and gave us a hopeful future where we could have gotten maybe another trilogy but then they piss all over it in Logan.

What’s the point of giving us Apocalypse or Dark Phoenix when we know everyone is gonna die?

Burying the whole roster of the X-Men to benefit Logan and Xavier is one headache I’m glad we don’t have to deal with anymore.

 

[Marvel united]

I thought DoFP was the perfect ending to the Fox-Men. It ended on a very hopeful note and had a nice sense of closure.

Although I thought Logan was quite good and a fitting end to Hugh Jackman's portrayal of the character, it really kind of sh!ts all over DoFP's hopeful ending.

Well DOFP was never going to be the end. It was touted as a new beginning for the franchise. I like to look at Logan as the true ending to the original continuity & I honestly like how it ends on a somber note with a glimpse of hope for the future. Yes, the X-Men are dead, Logan and Charles are dead but there is hope that their dream will live on in Laura and the rest of the Transigen kids. It feels like an evolution of the themes in the original trilogy and I wish the Fox franchise could have ended on that note.

It's one of the only CBMs to bring me to tears.

 

[Detective Conan]

I found this thread from years ago asking whether you would want the Mutants in the MCU or not.

Do you want the X-Men in the MCU?

Note: this thread was created in 2015 before Apocalypse came out back when fans were a lot more positive on the Fox-Men movies than they are now. It’s a bit funny to read this thread in retrospect now that we’re nearing the closure of the Disney-Fox deal that will return the Mutants back home to Marvel. A lot of the posters who opposed the idea back then changed their minds after Apocalypse ruined the goodwill the series had gotten after Days Of Future Past, lol. I figure it will provide you guys some entertainment reading this old thread made years before the unthinkable actually happened. A nice trip down memory lane.

 

[Marvel united]

I found this thread from years ago asking whether you would want the Mutants in the MCU or not.

Do you want the X-Men in the MCU?

Note: this thread was created in 2015 before Apocalypse came out back when fans were a lot more positive on the Fox-Men movies than they are now. It’s a bit funny to read this thread in retrospect now that we’re nearing the closure of the Disney-Fox deal that will return the Mutants back home to Marvel. A lot of the posters who opposed the idea back then changed their minds after Apocalypse ruined the goodwill the series had gotten after Days Of Future Past, lol. I figure it will provide you guys some entertainment reading this old thread made years before the unthinkable actually happened. A nice trip down memory lane.

Wow, A LOT (almost everybody in this thread) changed their minds. Fox really destroyed fans' trust with Apocalypse. I think Deadpool shining a new light on the propery also turned people against the main franchise.

Me? I've wanted the X-Men home since 2009 after Origins. I've always felt that the potential for the X-Men was being squandered by a limited vision

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Always thought that was a silly suggestion, keeping X-Men separate from the rest of the Marvel Universe. The only reason why they were divided for so long in the comics was because of the film rights.

X-Men is Marvel, Marvel is X-Men. Welcome back home mutants.

 

[First Avenger]

I found this thread from years ago asking whether you would want the Mutants in the MCU or not.

Do you want the X-Men in the MCU?

Note: this thread was created in 2015 before Apocalypse came out back when fans were a lot more positive on the Fox-Men movies than they are now. It’s a bit funny to read this thread in retrospect now that we’re nearing the closure of the Disney-Fox deal that will return the Mutants back home to Marvel. A lot of the posters who opposed the idea back then changed their minds after Apocalypse ruined the goodwill the series had gotten after Days Of Future Past, lol. I figure it will provide you guys some entertainment reading this old thread made years before the unthinkable actually happened. A nice trip down memory lane.

Man how things have changed.

 

[Smurphftw]

I found this thread from years ago asking whether you would want the Mutants in the MCU or not.

Do you want the X-Men in the MCU?

Note: this thread was created in 2015 before Apocalypse came out back when fans were a lot more positive on the Fox-Men movies than they are now. It’s a bit funny to read this thread in retrospect now that we’re nearing the closure of the Disney-Fox deal that will return the Mutants back home to Marvel. A lot of the posters who opposed the idea back then changed their minds after Apocalypse ruined the goodwill the series had gotten after Days Of Future Past, lol. I figure it will provide you guys some entertainment reading this old thread made years before the unthinkable actually happened. A nice trip down memory lane.

Very interesting. I would have been in the "I'm ok with a separate X-Verse" camp at that time. I think the distrust of mutants works better when mutants are the only supers in the world. Plus back then they were still pushing the #ItsAllConnected narrative and I thought Inhumans were going to fill that void anyway.

But then the staleness of the franchise began to show for me after AoA and worse, Kinberg was given the keys to the franchise. A lot can change in 4 years. I went from being a pretty staunch defender of Fox-Men to being really tired of it almost overnight.

 

[Spidey_62]

A few years ago I was fine with it, mostly because it seemed like they were serious about trying to do better with the X-Men movies and because I didn't think anything would ever happen where Marvel would get the rights back.

Apocalypse was one of the most unintentionally hilarious superhero movies I've seen, it was so goofy I was holding back laughter most of the time. Dark Phoenix, while unfortunate Kinberg is basically redoing X3 again, looks to be another whack goofy movie I might be able to laugh at. I'll be seeing it for the prospect of it being the end of Fox's tenure. I'm not sure how people think it looks like a good X-Men movie, though.

I don't think people know what a good new X-Men movie would look like after being conditioned to expect a certain formula from the Fox movies with them. I mean from an aesthetic point of view, I don't think a lot of the characters truly have looked right or felt right. That said, X1, 2, and DoFP are among the best efforts so far.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Soooo..


Willie, did the waitress work for Comcast too? LOL

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

I'll never understand the love X2 gets. Seriously. I remember sitting in the theatre and being dissapointed while it happened. It was just a very flawed sequel that gave us more of the same and failed to introduce something new. And some of the effects looked dated even back then. Jackman was good an Romijin was sexy, but that was about it.

Now the first movie, THAT movie was groundbreaking and refreshing. We even went willingly along with the spandex joke, absolutely believing that colours ould harm the credibilty of onscreen portrayals of superhero characters.

But X2? Other than the scene at Bobby Drake's parent's house? It was just more of the same. The franchise has gone stale with it's first sequel

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

I think what made X2 work was that it’s the only movie aside from DoFP that actually let the ensemble cast shine. Granted it was still Wolverine centered, you got to see Jean, Storm and the rest have more to do. Stryker was also a good antagonist until they just kept shoving him down our throats in the later movies. Then you also had that great introductory fight scene with Nightcrawler.

Only drawbacks I’d say was limiting Cyclops and keeping Rogue stunted. By this movie she should’ve already been calling people ‘sugah’.

 

[Darkprime]

Marvel Planning New Fantastic Four Movie, Will Be A Cosmic Adventure

Doom not being part of the 1st movie would be interesting maybe theyre saving him to be an Avengers villain?

 

[Crimz]

I don't believe it. It's way too early for anything concrete and why would they want to follow the Fant4stic route?

If anything, I can see a MCU FF combining elements from both 616 and Ultimate. The cosmic adventure part sounds great though and hope that ends up being true.

 

[Darkprime]

I don't believe it. It's way too early for anything concrete and why would they want to follow the Fant4stic route?

If anything, I can see a MCU FF combining elements from both 616 and Ultimate. The cosmic adventure part sounds great though and hope that ends up being true.

The deal could be done as soon as the end of this week. Will be done by the end of the month at the latest. This could be legit. They could be saving Doom for the Avengers.

 

[Crimz]

The deal could be done as soon as the end of this week. Will be done by the end of the month at the latest. This could be legit.

The deal closing soon is why I'm so wary of this. It's the perfect time to throw something like this out to drive up traffic to a website. How trustworthy has this site been in the past?

 

[Dark Raven]

I don't believe it. It's way too early for anything concrete and why would they want to follow the Fant4stic route?

If anything, I can see a MCU FF combining elements from both 616 and Ultimate. The cosmic adventure part sounds great though and hope that ends up being true.

Trank and Kinberg kept saying Fant4stic was Ultimate FF. That was not well received at all. And yet FFINO defenders kept talking about how this was why Fant4stic was so disrespectful to the source material.

And some even said they preferred Ultimate FF over classic FF. How many true FF fans really do though? Why would Marvel choose to go that route?

To go the Ultimate FF route would be too similar to Fant4stic. Surely Marvel would want to set themselves apart from the stench of that failure instead of reminding everyone of that. They need to go more classic instead of picking the worst inspiration for FF and the movie adaptation that encapsulated that.

 

[Darkprime]

The deal closing soon is why I'm so wary of this. It's the perfect time to throw something like this out to drive up traffic to a website. How trustworthy has this site been in the past?

They are a little iffy. But the part about it having a cosmic focus would line up with what we know about phase 4 being more cosmic focused.

 

[Lip]

Wow, A LOT (almost everybody in this thread) changed their minds. Fox really destroyed fans' trust with Apocalypse.

There's no post of mine there, but I was one of the people who didn't want the X-Men in the MCU at all. I thought it would be better having a Studio taking care only of the huge mutant universe.

And although I do have a lot of problems with the portrayal of the X-Men in DoFP, it was a really good movie. And it had it gave the promise and hope of a clean timeline with almost the entire X-Men universe ahead. And the promise of new characters like Jean, Scott and Ororo taking the leading roles. And the promise of a shared universe with spin-offs like Logan, Deadpool, New Mutants and X-Force...

Fox really ruined it. For me at least.

 

[Dark Raven]

They are a little iffy. But the part about it having a cosmic focus would line up with what we know about phase 4 being more cosmic focused.

It's not difficult to speculate on that part though, since everyone knows Phase 4 will be more cosmic. Anyone could write that.

That is what they should use to set the FF apart from previous adaptations, but still go classic instead of Ultimate. Maybe Annihilus and Blaastar?

I think they need to set up the FF though that it doesn't seem like it's just a cosmic franchise but that they can have adventures anywhere, even on Earth. Because Guardians have been set up as a cosmic franchise, it would seem odd now seeing them have earth-bound adventures. So they need to have scenes of the FF also chilling on Earth.

 

[Crimz]

Trank and Kinberg kept saying Fant4stic was Ultimate FF. That was not well received at all. And yet FFINO defenders kept talking about how this was why Fant4stic was so disrespectful to the source material.

And some even said they preferred Ultimate FF over classic FF. How many true FF fans really do though? Why would Marvel choose to go that route?

To go the Ultimate FF route would be too similar to Fant4stic. Surely Marvel would want to set themselves apart from the stench of that failure instead of reminding everyone of that. They need to go more classic instead of picking the worst inspiration for FF and the movie adaptation that encapsulated that.

Also, Marvel likes to aspects from all different universes as well as add new things. They wouldn't solely look to Ultimate Fantastic Four for ideas. It will most likely be a mixture, taking aspects from different universes.