The Rebooted "Keep Hope Alive" (that the rights can revert back to Marvel) Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 24

[Darkprime]

Speaking of Comcast, hasn't the deadline expired for when Fox has to make an offer for Sky? Wasn't it yesterday? I think they may have backed off after all

The deadline got pushed back to September.

https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/21st-century-fox-sky-new-bid-deadline-1202898078-1202898078/

 

[Marvel united]

The deadline got pushed back to September.

https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/21st-century-fox-sky-new-bid-deadline-1202898078-1202898078/

Well, next month then

 

[Darkprime]

it doesnt really matter now anyway Disney have secured Fox pending international regulation.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

it doesnt really matter now anyway Disney have secured Fox pending international regulation.

At this point, I'm hoping Comcast wins the Sky bid. I think that makes it more likely we could see a deal that would give Marvel the Hulk and Namor rights back.

 

[WeaponXCII]

At this point, I'm hoping Comcast wins the Sky bid. I think that makes it more likely we could see a deal that would give Marvel the Hulk and Namor rights back.

I'm basically with Darkprime on this one. The main war is all but over. But getting the full rights to Hulk and Namor (and Spider-Man, too- don't forget about him!) would definitely be the icing on the cake.

 

[ADollarADay]

At this point, I'm hoping Comcast wins the Sky bid. I think that makes it more likely we could see a deal that would give Marvel the Hulk and Namor rights back.

I disagree. I have more shares in DIS than I do in CMCSA and Sky could really become ESPN Sky in the EU. It could be really huge for the company.

That said, I wouldn't be upset if that happened. Also CMCSA is interested in some of the RSNs DIS has to divest. That could be used for leverage to get those Marvel rights CMCSA owns and 30% of Hulu.

 

[Xeno]

I disagree. I have more shares in DIS than I do in CMCSA and Sky could really become ESPN Sky in the EU. It could be really huge for the company.

That said, I wouldn't be upset if that happened. Also CMCSA is interested in some of the RSNs DIS has to divest. That could be used for leverage to get those Marvel rights CMCSA owns and 30% of Hulu.

Disney's control of Hulu really has me intrigued. Iger seems to have definite plans for the streaming service, which will hopefully involve beefing up the Disney/Fox content on the service. Adding the massive number of films and TV shows that are available from the back catalogs of both studios to Hulu would instantly make it the go-to streaming service, as far as I'm concerned.


These media conglomerates have been far too tight-fisted with their content. They should have had all of this material available for consumption years ago instead of letting it sit in their vaults like Scrooge McDuck hoarding gold. If Disney puts all of its Miramax, Touchstone and 20th Century Fox content on Hulu the service will be even more appealing to consumers than it is now.

 

[ADollarADay]

Disney's control of Hulu really has me intrigued. Iger seems to have definite plans for the streaming service, which will hopefully involve beefing up the Disney/Fox content on the service. Adding the massive number of films and TV shows that are available from the back catalogs of both studios to Hulu would instantly make it the go-to streaming service, as far as I'm concerned.


These media conglomerates have been far too tight-fisted with their content. They should have had all of this material available for consumption years ago instead of letting it sit in their vaults like Scrooge McDuck hoarding gold. If Disney puts all of its Miramax, Touchstone and 20th Century Fox content on Hulu the service will be even more appealing to consumers than it is now.

There may be also some limits to what the majority owner can do for Hulu as per the initial contract. Nothing definite but it's something that I have seen out there in the wild. Basically DIS wouldn't be able to expand or put whatever content they want without CMCSA and T's approval.

Also, Disney doesn't own the distribution rights to Miramax's movies anymore, so they would have to license those.

 

[Darkprime]

I would not be surprised if Disneys 60% in Hulu raises anti-trust concerns. If theyre already going to launch their own service couldn't owning 60% of another service be seen as anti competitive?

 

[Lilbaz]

I would not be surprised if Disneys 60% in Hulu raises anti-trust concerns. If theyre already going to launch their own service couldn't owning 60% of another service be seen as anti competitive?

Can't get hulu in the uk so wont effect the sky bid.

Think sky's days are numbered anyway. We'll see what happens the next tv deal for football. They lose that it's game over.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Wonder how much Disneyflix subscription will be? Hope it’s not as outrageous as DC’s.

 

[Spider-Fan]

How much is DCs?

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

How much is DCs?

I believe 80 for a year’s subscription and they don’t even have half the projects ready. That’s a little overpriced to me.

 

[Spidey_62]

I believe 80 for a year’s subscription and they don’t even have half the projects ready. That’s a little overpriced to me.

I dunno, Titans and Titans alone is a pretty enticing package for $80.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Yeah, too much lol

 

[PsylockeBlackWidow]

I have a question about court issue and the Disney Fox deal because Jeremy Conrad aka Manabyte said this below from one of his tweets:

"Yea probably May or June at best. After they clear everything internationally, they still have to go back to court in the US."

What does it mean when going back to court in the US after receiving international approval?

 

[Marvel united]

That Jeremy guy doesn't know what he's talking about half the time

 

[Darkprime]

I have a question about court issue and the Disney Fox deal because Jeremy Conrad aka Manabyte said this below from one of his tweets:

"Yea probably May or June at best. After they clear everything internationally, they still have to go back to court in the US."

What does it mean when going back to court in the US after receiving international approval?

The DOJ have to give their final stamp on it. They have given provisional approval. But they haven't given the final OK. I think? That wont happen until Disney sells the regional sports networks like they have agreed to.

 

[Xeno]

Wonder how much Disneyflix subscription will be? Hope it’s not as outrageous as DC’s.

Iger has said that the price will be "reasonable" initially because they won't have the amount of content on their platform to warrant a higher subscription price at the outset. I read a report somewhere that speculated a price of $5-$6 per month, which is lower than Hulu and Netflix. That number didn't come from Iger, though. He did say that Disney might offer a discounted bundle of Disneyflix, Hulu and/or ESPN for those who want to subscribe to more than one service.

 

[PsylockeBlackWidow]

The DOJ have to give their final stamp on it. They have given provisional approval. But they haven't given the final OK. I think? That wont happen until Disney sells the regional sports networks like they have agreed to.

So basically once these hurdles get out of the way I guess the final thing to do for this merger to happen is that Murdoch and Iger both have to sign there names in ink on a paper stating the official completion and then the merger will be official.

 

[Xeno]

There may be also some limits to what the majority owner can do for Hulu as per the initial contract. Nothing definite but it's something that I have seen out there in the wild. Basically DIS wouldn't be able to expand or put whatever content they want without CMCSA and T's approval.

Also, Disney doesn't own the distribution rights to Miramax's movies anymore, so they would have to license those.

There are always roadblocks, aren't there? The problems Disney will have controlling Hulu with partners makes one assume that Iger is going to make a major play for full control. He has spoken in multiple interviews about his plans to use Hulu as an integral part of Disney's streaming strategy so he must be prepared to deal for all of it.

With TMF reporting that Disney will lose $1 billion on its Hulu stake this year alone, Iger may also want control of it in order to get a handle on its spiraling costs.

 

[ADollarADay]

https://exame.abril.com.br/negocios...om-interessadas-em-acordo-entre-fox-e-disney/

Some movement from Brazil's regulatory body. I don't think that means approval just yet.

I think that means the regulatory body has accepted requests from other telecoms interested in doing an analysis on the deal. This could actually make it harder for the merger to be approved there in a timely fashion IMO.

BUSINESS

Cade accepts telecoms firms interested in Fox-Disney deal

Companies will have 15 days to express their views on the operation, including: Simba, joint venture of TV SBT Channel 4, Sky Serviços and Neo TV

São Paulo - The Administrative Council for Economic Defense (Cade) has accepted requests from telecommunications companies operating in Brazil to participate as interested third parties in the analysis of the acquisition of control of Twenty-First Century Fox by Walt Disney, according to published dispatch on Monday in the Official Gazette (DOU).

Disney in July bought Fox's $ 71 billion film and television assets. Disney's cash and stock offer has already been approved by US regulators. Disney, owner of the ESPN sports network, has vowed to dispose of 22 of Fox's regional sports networks in the United States.

Cade gave a period of 15 days for companies to express their views on the transaction.

The companies that have been authorized to express their views on the operation within 15 days are: Simba, a joint venture between TV SBT Channel 4, Radio and Television Recorde and TV Omega; the Warner Media; to Sky Broadband Services; and the Neo TV association, which brings together about 130 companies among pay-TV operators, internet service providers and content distributors for paid channels.

"The arguments presented by all the petitioners, to a greater or lesser extent, point to possible negative effects that may arise from the operation under review and how their interests may be affected," Cade said in justifying the decision.

 

[Darkprime]

^ I think legally the Brazilian government has to give 2 weeks for companies to look over the deal but it sounds like it will be approved over there. Disney and Fox don't really have any major presence in Brazil as far as i'm aware. This is just following standard procedure. Honestly its looking like we could be on track for the deal to close by Xmas.

Something else I've also been wondering about is the writers guild of america. When the deal was announced back in December they made a very public statement saying they were against the deal but we've heard nothing since. Maybe they realised their was realistically nothing they could do?

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Something else I've also been wondering about is the writers guild of america. When the deal was announced back in December they made a very public statement saying they were against the deal but we've heard nothing since. Maybe they realised their was realistically nothing they could do?

They can complain all they want, but when it comes down to it, they have about as much power as we do.

If they really object, they can refuse to work for Disney/Fox in the future.

How many people do you think will do that?

 

[2kt09]

They can complain all they want, but when it comes down to it, they have about as much power as we do.

If they really object, they can refuse to work for Disney/Fox in the future.

How many people do you think will do that?

just the worst coast, West.