The Rebooted "Keep Hope Alive" (that the rights can revert back to Marvel) Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 24

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I have to believe that Disney will go after Spidey next. Him getting pulled out when the F4 are coming in would be tragic.. I hope they can renegotiate for at least 6 more films
Hulk is the most logical target as it means they also go after full distribution and theme park rights.

SONY is trying to stay on Disney’s good side for now..Plus I think Disney wants The Incredible Hulk film as part of the Disney+ roll out.
 
I hope we get something F4 related before the X-Men. I think Silver Surfer is a good start
 
Hulk is the most logical target as it means they also go after full distribution and theme park rights.

SONY is trying to stay on Disney’s good side for now..Plus I think Disney wants The Incredible Hulk film as part of the Disney+ roll out.
Well their spinoffs may be a thorn in Feige's side. Characters like Kraven, Black Cat, Sable could/should have been saves for a third MCU Spider-Man film. Pretty soon, Marvel will be relegated to using C-Listers like Hypno-Hustler and Grizzly..

I think Disney may be fine with Hulk's current situation. We know that they've pursued the Spider-Man film rights in the past
 
I find it really hard to believe that Marvel would rather make a Spider-Man movie with Big Wheel than re-use villains like Green Goblin, Lizard and Doc Ock. It would make no sense
 
Well their spinoffs may be a thorn in Feige's side. Characters like Kraven, Black Cat, Sable could/should have been saves for a third MCU Spider-Man film. Pretty soon, Marvel will be relegated to using C-Listers like Hypno-Hustler and Grizzly..

I think Disney may be fine with Hulk's current situation. We know that they've pursued the Spider-Man film rights in the past

It's never going to come to that. If they cannot use new villains, then they will just use Doc Ock's and such again. We're never getting to the point where Rocket Racer will be a primary antagonist. Plus, it's not like we were going to get Morbius in a Spider-Man movie or something. So let Sony have him.
 
Chances are we'll see Doc Ock soon anyway since they seem to be gearing towards the Sinister 6. They better make Ock the leader
 
Man it's surreal, just a little over a week and it's official. I never thought this would happen and yet here it is. Damn it's a good time to be a Marvel fan.

Now's the time to bet on when Marvel will make an official announcement. I bet they will wait until a few weeks after endgame so as not to draw too much attention away. So May at the earliest, we'll probably get some sound bites during the marketing of Endgame. They have said they've been holding off on phase 4 announcements in order to keep focus on Endgame and Far From Home. I have a feeling they want to do a big announcement like they did with phase 3. With SDCC being just a few weeks after Far From Home's premiere that is the perfect time for them to do a big event.

I doubt it. Russos posted that film is locked. Meaning no further changes.
Well remember the post credits scene of Avengers was film then day of the red carpet premiere. But aside from post credits it's highly unlikely anything will be added into the actual films, maybe something in the background. film being locked mostly means editing is finished. So adding some special effects that can be design and edited in a few weeks is possible, however unlikely. If anything does appear it'll be something very simple like a post credits with the silhouette of galactus.
Guys what the hell do we go do to celebrate history?!

We gotta do something special to celebrate the First Family and the Merry Mutants coming home. Its been so long since they've been away.
Well if I wasn't working I would get drunk and post a celebration topic at 12:03 am March 20th
I think Sony and Marvel will extend the deal, personally.
I see no reason why they wouldn't, everyone's happy with it so far.
 
Chances are we'll see Doc Ock soon anyway since they seem to be gearing towards the Sinister 6. They better make Ock the leader

Agreed. I am not starving to see Osborn again at this point in time, but I think it is time Doc Ock got used again. Will be over 15 years since SM2, so plenty of time has passed.
 
I find it really hard to believe that Marvel would rather make a Spider-Man movie with Big Wheel than re-use villains like Green Goblin, Lizard and Doc Ock. It would make no sense
It's never going to come to that. If they cannot use new villains, then they will just use Doc Ock's and such again. We're never getting to the point where Rocket Racer will be a primary antagonist. Plus, it's not like we were going to get Morbius in a Spider-Man movie or something. So let Sony have him.

Well Feige has said they want to use new villains but I'd hope we wouldn't end up with Kangaroo and Will O'Wisp as the main villains of a movie if they stick stubbornly true to that mentality. With Sinister Six coming up, I hope they introduce Doc Ock again soon + Rhino or Electro to fill the 6th spot.

- Doc Ock
- Electro
- Rhino
- Norman Osborn
- Scorpion
- Alister Smythe
- Spencer Smythe
- Sandman
- The Lizard

Those are the villains on the table after Mysterio and Hydro-Man are used. It's time to introduce Otto Octavius again
 
I'm assuming it'll be at D23 where we hear anything. I think they'll announce some of the "Phase 4" films there and we'll hear who's been cast in Black Widow and Eternals then too...at least "officially"
 
Well Feige has said they want to use new villains but I'd hope we wouldn't end up with Kangaroo and Will O'Wisp as the main villains of a movie if they stick stubbornly true to that mentality. With Sinister Six coming up, I hope they introduce Doc Ock again soon + Rhino or Electro to fill the 6th spot.

- Doc Ock
- Electro
- Rhino
- Scorpion
- Alister Smythe
- Spencer Smythe
- Sandman
- The Lizard

Those are the villains on the table after Mysterio and Hydro-Man are used

That's never going to last. When he said he wanted to use all new villains, I don't think he meant "We will never use prior used Spider-Man villains ever." I think he just wanted to get some of the heavy hitters off the board. Come the 3rd film in the Holland series, especially if they're doing SS as hinted at in Homecoming, then Doc Ock makes sense. Other guys like Scorpion and such can be sprinkled in while still using Doc Ock.

As it stands, I think we can count on Scorpion, Vulture, and Mysterio (assuming he lives) as being Sinister Six members. That leaves room for 2 more new guys (unless they use Shocker again...which they may) and still use Doc Ock. I think that is a good roster.
 
I'd say Ock, Vulture, Mysterio, Shocker, Scorpion would be the 5, leaving room for one more. I don't think it'll be Electro or Rhino
 
That's never going to last. When he said he wanted to use all new villains, I don't think he meant "We will never use prior used Spider-Man villains ever." I think he just wanted to get some of the heavy hitters off the board. Come the 3rd film in the Holland series, especially if they're doing SS as hinted at in Homecoming, then Doc Ock makes sense. Other guys like Scorpion and such can be sprinkled in while still using Doc Ock.

As it stands, I think we can count on Scorpion, Vulture, and Mysterio (assuming he lives) as being Sinister Six members. That leaves room for 2 more new guys (unless they use Shocker again...which they may) and still use Doc Ock. I think that is a good roster.
Ock has to be introduced in Spider-Man 3. And I'm guessing since every MCU third film is the biggest of the trilogy, they're going to do the Sinister Six. So I'm guessing Ock brings everybody together to kill Spider-Man. It would suck if Mysterio or Vulture were the leaders of the Sinister Six. No Ock on S6 is like having no Iron Man on the Avengers

- Doc Ock
- Vulture
- Mysterio
- Scorpion
- Shocker
- Hydro-Man (assuming he's not an illusion)

I imagine that Marvel wants to use Norman again but for the wider MCU. It's weird that they haven't pulled the trigger on him yet. Ditto for Jameson and the Daily Bugle.
 
Ock has to be introduced in Spider-Man 3. And I'm guessing since every MCU third film is the biggest of the trilogy, they're going to do the Sinister Six. So I'm guessing Ock brings everybody together to kill Spider-Man. It would suck if Mysterio or Vulture were the leaders of the Sinister Six. No Ock on S6 is like having no Iron Man on the Avengers

- Doc Ock
- Vulture
- Mysterio
- Scorpion
- Shocker
- Hydro-Man (assuming he's not an illusion)

I imagine that Marvel wants to use Norman again but for the wider MCU. It's weird that they haven't pulled the trigger on him yet. Ditto for Jameson and the Daily Bugle.

I don't think they would make Mysterio or Vulture leaders of the team. I think Gargan telling Toomes about others who want a shot at the spider hints to me we have a master planner. I agree, for Sinister Six, this HAS to be Doc Ock. Any other choice simply wouldn't work for me.

I am thinking Hydro-Man and the other elementals are illusions.
 
Hulk versus Wolverine would be a fun MCU project.

I still say Storm and Rogue will be the first (formerly FOX owned) characters we're introduced to.
 
I'm still convinced Osborn bought Avengers Tower, but I don't think he'll factor into the Sinister 6
 
I don't think they would make Mysterio or Vulture leaders of the team. I think Gargan telling Toomes about others who want a shot at the spider hints to me we have a master planner. I agree, for Sinister Six, this HAS to be Doc Ock. Any other choice simply wouldn't work for me.

I am thinking Hydro-Man and the other elementals are illusions.
I certainly hope they are.

Imagine if we got a "Master Planner" namedrop in the mid-credits. A guy that "recognizes the problem and has a solution to rectify it". Should Ock already have his arms and already had the accident or should his origin be something they explore in SM3? PS4 basically had Ock as the Master Planner long before he went after Norman. He was making tech for the S6 members
 
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