The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Scene Gwen Stacey Died - Part 2

[GuestStar2004]

I don't think people are super hyped just to see Rhino. He isn't supposed to be a major part of the film, and Marc already said he is literally a tease. People are going to moan no matter what.

People are gonna moan but in the end it would be better not to intentionally know you are giving them something to moan about just so they can bring in an audience.

yes its small he ain't a main villain its likely just an obstacle, he won't be part of 3 villains at the end in a major battle

And yes creative writing would work early on with a fair amount of time skips when they are trying to have fun with it and show he is having fun and being a hero, but to creatively write Peter being fun at the end after gwens death that's kinda where creative writing is becoming not only unrealistic to a point but also feeling more like a watered down book end to what should be an impactful ending that will leave an effect on him in TASM3, and I don't mean oh he learns responsibility I mean his Gf is dead

 

[Airnick]

People are gonna moan but in the end it would be better not to intentionally know you are giving them something to moan about just so they can bring in an audience.

yes its small he ain't a main villain its likely just an obstacle, he won't be part of 3 villains at the end in a major battle

And yes creative writing would work early on with a fair amount of time skips when they are trying to have fun with it and show he is having fun and being a hero, but to creatively write Peter being fun at the end after gwens death that's kinda where creative writing is becoming not only unrealistic to a point but also feeling more like a watered down book end to what should be an impactful ending that will leave an effect on him in TASM3, and I don't mean oh he learns responsibility I mean his Gf is dead

This!.

 

[Picard Sisko]

People are gonna moan but in the end it would be better not to intentionally know you are giving them something to moan about just so they can bring in an audience.

yes its small he ain't a main villain its likely just an obstacle, he won't be part of 3 villains at the end in a major battle

And yes creative writing would work early on with a fair amount of time skips when they are trying to have fun with it and show he is having fun and being a hero, but to creatively write Peter being fun at the end after gwens death that's kinda where creative writing is becoming not only unrealistic to a point but also feeling more like a watered down book end to what should be an impactful ending that will leave an effect on him in TASM3, and I don't mean oh he learns responsibility I mean his Gf is dead

Sorry, but no. If Aleksei turns into Rhino only in a matter of minutes after the chase sequence, that would be overkill and nonsensical.

 

[Airnick]

Sorry, but no. If Aleksei turns into Rhino only in a matter of minutes after the chase sequence, that would be overkill and nonsensical.

It would still be better than having him appear after Gwen's death, IMO.

 

[Picard Sisko]

It would still be better than having him appear after Gwen's death, IMO.

If there really is a 1 year time jump after her death, I could see it working.

But having Aleksei turn into Rhino only minutes after being caught by Spider-Man? That's a no-no.

 

[Airnick]

If there really is a 1 year time jump after her death, I could see it working.

But having Aleksei turn into Rhino only minutes after being caught by Spider-Man? That's a no-no.

The one year time Jump is definitely the best way to do it, but I'm still not a fan of them doing such a big time jump a good ten minutes after Gwen's death.

 

[GuestStar2004]

If there really is a 1 year time jump after her death, I could see it working.
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so she dies in a tragic scene, then a funeral, then 1 year later... spidey arrives cracking jokes at rhino and ends with the trailer shot

it would look like they killed her for nothing, when logically its likely to continue on in TASM3 and have it effect peter emotionally which would seem like a perfect next step from a writing and character point of view

 

[IncognitoWalrus]

It would be intense if the Rhino fight is actually the first part of the film's final battle. While doing that risks stacking up all the fights scenes close together Man of Steel style, it would probably be Spider-Mans "greatest battle" if Oscorp lets the Rhino loose in New York. Peter stops him, but he's just being softened up for a fight with Electro at the power plant. When Electro fails to defeat him, Harry shows up and takes Gwen to the clock tower.

 

[Picard Sisko]

The one year time Jump is definitely the best way to do it, but I'm still not a fan of them doing such a bit time jump a good ten minutes after Gwen's death.

I think the time jump after her death makes more sense than having Aleksei turn into Rhino 8 minutes after his is defeated at the conclusion of the chase sequence.

 

[Airnick]

I said this in the previous page but I'll say it again.

Thinking about it from the GA prespitive, are they supposed to be all sad after Gwen's death and then good 10 minutes later expected to laugh as spidey is throwing jokes at rhino?.

 

[Picard Sisko]

so she dies in a tragic scene, funeral, 1 year later... spidey arrives cracking jokes at rhino and ends with the trailer shot

it would look like they killed her for nothing

1. You are assuming he "cracks jokes" when nothing indicates that.

2. The movie isn't going to jump ahead 1 year right to him fighting Rhino. It'll probably show him grieving and mourning her death, but he still has to continue being Spider-Man. It wouldn't mean "they killed her for nothing." The little kid wearing the Spider-Man outfit shows up before the Rhino fight apparently, so its possible he serves as Peter's inspiration of sorts?

 

[Picard Sisko]

I said this in the previous page but I'll say it again.

Thinking about it from the GA prespitive, are they supposed to be all sad after Gwen's death and then good 10 minutes later expected to laugh as spidey is throwing jokes at rhino?.

Who said that Spider-Man is cracking jokes at Rhino though?

 

[Airnick]

Who said that Spider-Man is cracking jokes at Rhino though?

I believe this picture is supposed to be from the rhino fight. So him talking into a megaphone makes it seem like he'll be cracking jokes.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I believe this picture is supposed to be from the rhino fight. So him talking into a megaphone makes it seem like he'll be cracking jokes.

Spider-Man talking through a megaphone doesn't mean he is cracking jokes.

 

[GuestStar2004]

1. You are assuming he "cracks jokes" when nothing indicates that.

2. The movie isn't going to jump ahead 1 year right to him fighting Rhino. It'll probably show him grieving and mourning her death, but he still has to continue being Spider-Man. It wouldn't mean "they killed her for nothing." The little kid wearing the Spider-Man outfit shows up before the Rhino fight apparently, so its possible he serves as Peter's inspiration of sorts?

if i remember right someone said spider-man calls him a grey hippopotamus or something like that

alright fine if you really want it to end with rhino and skipping over the mourning part of his first love dying so peter can just get back to his job

 

[Nicko-Ray]

IF that's how the movie ends, I'm sure they'd be smart enough to have something in between. Sort of halfly seal the lid on that issue. He'll still be torn at the end of the movie cracking jokes at Rhino or not, but like always, it's gonna stick with Peter forever.

 

[Picard Sisko]

if i remember right someone said spider-man calls him a grey hippo or something like that

alright fine if you really want it to end with rhino and skipping over the mourning part of his first love dying so peter can just get back to his job

IF that's how the movie ends, I'm sure they'd be smart enough to have something in between. Sort of halfly seal the lid on that issue. He'll still be torn at the end of the movie cracking jokes at Rhino or not, but like always, it's gonna stick with Peter forever.

This. It wouldn't go from "Gwen's dead" right to "Hey, I'm back to being Spider-Man! Life is good!"

 

[Airnick]

But it shouldn't go from Gwen dead, to ten minutes later cracking jokes at rhino. Even if it does the "one year later" thing.

 

[GuestStar2004]

IF that's how the movie ends, I'm sure they'd be smart enough to have something in between. Sort of halfly seal the lid on that issue. He'll still be torn at the end of the movie cracking jokes at Rhino or not, but like always, it's gonna stick with Peter forever.

well peter is a teenager, gwen was his first love, its not like his pet dying

it would take months to get over her, now that either be seen in TASM3 or it would be skipped over for the most part so he realises he has to move on

i'm getting tired of this debate tbh, i'm failing to understand the logic in it, let alone why anyone actually thinks that would happen

 

[Nicko-Ray]

But it shouldn't go from Gwen dead, to ten minutes later cracking jokes at rhino. Even if it does the "one year later" thing.

Yeah I know 10 minutes would feel cheap.

well peter is a teenager, gwen was his first love, its not like his dog dying

it would take months to get over her, now that either be seen in TASM3 or it would be skipped over for the most part so he realises he has to move on

i'm getting tired of this debate tbh, i'm failing to understand the logic in it, let alone why anyone actually thinks that would happen

I just like the idea of Rhino's encounter at the end when someone suggested it that's all. Let's just wait for the movie now shall we? Haha

 

[GuestStar2004]

I just like the idea of Rhino's encounter at the end when someone suggested it that's all. Let's just wait for the movie now shall we? Haha

 

[Streetlight]

I like this Rhino at the end thing. If they have Gwen die, show him grieving, time jump and then see him fighting Rhino in his free spirited manner but still imply there's a big underlying sadness to him, it could really work in a 'bad stuff happens, life goes on' kind of way and that way you get Gwen's death without being majorly bummed out when you leave.

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[DigificWriter]

We have two known instances where Pete is apparently late: the graduation and his date with Gwen, and, thanks to dialogue, at least one of the causes of his being late is getting shot at by machine guns (sounds like the Rhino mech fight to me).

 

[UltimateWebhead]

We have two known instances where Pete is apparently late: the graduation and his date with Gwen, and, thanks to dialogue, at least one of the causes of his being late is getting shot at by machine guns (sounds like the Rhino mech fight to me).

Aleksei uses a machine gun and so do his thugs. Just because Gwen makes mention of a machine gun doesn't equate to Rhino.

 

[Airnick]

I like this Rhino at the end thing. If they have Gwen die, show him grieving, time jump and then see him fighting Rhino in his free spirited manner but still imply there's a big underlying sadness to him, it could really work in a 'bad stuff happens, life goes on' kind of way and that way you get Gwen's death without being majorly bummed out when you leave.

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I just feel like that's rushing the grieving period a little bit.