The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR Batsuit Discussion Thread

[Lencho01]

^I think it's fitting with Nolan's world. The only thing I hate about it is that whole shoulder rig and how the Bat-crest is connected to it. That looks terrible.

I don't like the way the symbol connects too. I do like the mask. Whenever I read Lex Luthor: Man of Steel, I think his suit would be a lot like the one in Daredevil.

 

[Shazam]

I never understood why they didn't go with that train of thought from the start.

Because all of them have been struck in Burton world since 89!

 

[KalMart]

Y'know....the more that I look at the design from that Arkham video game, the more I think it could be a good starting point not for this series of films, but for another re-imagining after the Nolan series is done. I did some minor adjustments here to try and bring it a bit more into live-action proportions.....

Still, it would require a very large/well-built actor that would probably still need some 'enhancement' from padding/under-cloth-armor to get this kind of look...and you'd hope it wouldn't be rubber and stiff like before, but also not some soft foam that would bunch up on itself. Not to mention a glossier, more dynamic overall lighting scheme for the film. But all the better to differentiate it from the Nolan ones. I could see, say, someone like Del Toro doing something along these lines.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Y'know....the more that I look at the design from that Arkham video game, the more I think it could be a good starting point not for this series of films, but for another re-imagining after the Nolan series is done. I did some minor adjustments here to try and bring it a bit more into live-action proportions.....

Still, it would require a very large/well-built actor that would probably still need some 'enhancement' from padding/under-cloth-armor to get this kind of look...and you'd hope it wouldn't be rubber and stiff like before, but also not some soft foam that would bunch up on itself. Not to mention a glossier, more dynamic overall lighting scheme for the film. But all the better to differentiate it from the Nolan ones. I could see, say, someone like Del Toro doing something along these lines.

I could see that. The gray would need to be darkened, and I think it would probably have armor plates on it.
The hard part about fabric is that it can easily make Batman look like an just a dude in tights, which doesn't help when he's trying to intimidate people. My main concern is that I don't want Batman's costume to look like an average superhero costume. It needs to be scary. If that criterion can be met, then I say go ahead with it.

 

[Mr. Earle]

The Arkham Asylum suit is clearly armoured so its not just some cloth. Also, i dont see how pads are intimidating. They certainly ruin Batman's look.

But i agree about the grey needing to be darker.

 

[JAK®]

It just needs to be some sort of durable fabric. Anything that isn't solid like rubber. That could be any number of materials, so when people say it won't work it baffles me.

 

[Godzilla2014]

The Arkham Asylum suit is clearly armoured so its not just some cloth. Also, i dont see how pads are intimidating. They certainly ruin Batman's look.

But i agree about the grey needing to be darker.

The hard body armor pieces break up the human form, which, combined with the black color, makes Batman look less like just a dude in a costume.

 

[JAK®]

The hard body armor pieces break up the human form, which, combined with the black color, makes Batman look less like just a dude in a costume.

Not really. Bale looked more like a dude in a costume than ever in TDK. Lighting is more important than armour plates.

 

[Pagan]

I agree that Bats needs a lighter more flexible material. They should have him doing parkour in something that is more akin to Spidey's suit. Some new Waynetech mesh that is bullet and blade proof. Yet light and flexible like regular fabric with the ability to blend in with a chameleon like camo feature.

 

[JAK®]

The TRON suits, while made of rubber, are flexible enough that they look like skin tight fabric but protective as well.

 

[Mr. Earle]

The TRON suits, while made of rubber, are flexible enough that they look like skin tight fabric but protective as well.

Does it come in black and grey?

The hard body armor pieces break up the human form, which, combined with the black color, makes Batman look less like just a dude in a costume.

In Begins he looked somewhere between a dude in a costume and a monster. In TDK he flat out looked like a dude in armor. An overdesigned one at that. Hell, even the little ab pads had lines on them.

 

[Dave Rimmings]

Every Batfilm we get a new suit, it'll be a redesign of TDK one, but with a gimmicky twist. I think "Stealth Action Suit Batman" or "Police Evasion Suit Batman" would both look great on an action figure box! t:

By the way, I'm actually Joel Schumacher in disguise.

 

[KalMart]

The Arkham Asylum suit is clearly armoured so its not just some cloth. Also, i dont see how pads are intimidating. They certainly ruin Batman's look.

But i agree about the grey needing to be darker.

Really? I thought most folks here would want more of a black/grey difference with the body area...more akin to the comics version. It's a tricky thing as you start approaching a dark/charcoal grey, as it can fall away to black quite quickly under darker real lighting unless the fabric actually holds/reflects it...which might be a bit much for Batman. Basically, with lighting and post processing-timing, a grey that would just be different enough in dramatic dark lighting could start as a pretty light grey in regular 'room' lighting.

 

[Mr. Earle]

I'd like something like these:

 

[Boom]

Someday, we will get a suit like that.

Someday.

 

[Saint]

I'd like something like these:

I will punch anyone who says this would look silly. The only thing this looks like is the personification of awesome.

 

[JAK®]

It looks si

Spoiler

nister

 

[regwec]

I will punch anyone who says this would look silly. The only thing this looks like is the personification of awesome.

I will touch them in a bad place.

 

[Boom]

I will sandpaper their armpits.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Really? I thought most folks here would want more of a black/grey difference with the body area...more akin to the comics version. It's a tricky thing as you start approaching a dark/charcoal grey, as it can fall away to black quite quickly under darker real lighting unless the fabric actually holds/reflects it...which might be a bit much for Batman. Basically, with lighting and post processing-timing, a grey that would just be different enough in dramatic dark lighting could start as a pretty light grey in regular 'room' lighting.

Trust me, I doubt that a light grey would work on film. He needs to blend into the shadows, so the gray can't stand out that much.

I'd like something like these:

Those are examples of how the right shade of gray can make the black and gray work on film.

 

[KalMart]

Trust me, I doubt that a light grey would work on film. He needs to blend into the shadows, so the gray can't stand out that much.

That's kinda' what I'm getting at...in that going 'all-black' seems to make more 'sense', really, because that's where it'll end up anyway. And if you were going to notice that the body area was actually grey...if you eventually don't want it a medium-to-light grey, it'll need more light. Otherwise, it's more like a slightly 'lighter shade of black'.

But again, it'll depend heavily on the lighting scheme/look of a different film to bring that kind of distinction out and register as different hues.

Those are examples of how the right shade of gray can make the black and gray work on film.

Actually, those are examples of it when drawn, with the light of a computer monitor providing the luminance from behind, or if looking at it on paper in a well-lit room. Actual photography, and especially motion photography, is a tougher nut to crack. That's not to say that there are ways to bring out details and material texture in a seemingly 'dark' shot. Part of it can sometimes be done actually shooting things 'bright' to be timed down in post/color-correction later. That's why I mentioned that in actual normal room light...a grey for Batman could seem quite bright, but when processed after shooting, could just be lighter than what the black reference is...all things being relatively equal in terms of reflectivity/sheen etc..

 

[Mr. Earle]

This is from the latest issue of Generation Lost. I dont like the Inc suit in general, but I'm just posting this to show how much better it looks with the black trunks. At least to me...

Btw the artist made Batman more gold than Booster Gold. Damn!

 

[regwec]

The chest symbol is drawn all wrong. If you put it in the oval, then the wings have to be rounded inwards. Them's the rules.

 

[Godzilla2014]

The chest symbol is drawn all wrong. If you put it in the oval, then the wings have to be rounded inwards. Them's the rules.

Not true. During the days of the inception of the ellipse, the wings weren't rounded inwards. That said, I don't care for the ellipse period, and certainly not in gold.

 

[Boom]

I actually wouldn't mind seeing the oval return. Not gold/yellow, though. I'd prefer a dark bronze.

I just find it silly how Bruce stressed the importance of creating a symbol, but the physical symbol on his costume is almost impossible to make out.