The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - Part 139

[kvz5]

 

[craigdbfan]

OT: Geoff Boucher is leaving the LAT.

I'm curious if he'll do another exclusive Nolan interview to discuss TDKR once the Blu-Ray hits.

A huge loss for LAT. I hope we see more of him because he got some great interviews.

 

[BatLobster]

A huge loss for LAT. I hope we see more of him because he got some great interviews.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Some observers note that the January-August pre-Oscar season has produced two standout films that could make the best-picture ballot: Chris Nolan's The Dark Knight Rises and Beasts of the Southern Wild, a small-budget drama that has earned a healthy $8.3 million since it began its slow rollout in late June.

"I think it wasn't a bad summer for independent films," says Katey Rich, Oscar columnist and editor in chief of CinemaBlend.com. "Especially Beasts. People are already rallying behind it. It will just depend on whether Oscar will keep going for small movies or a big, popular hit."

The academy's plan was to include more summer and popular fare among the nominees after 2008's The Dark Knight didn't make the final five, sparking an outcry among critics and fans. New rules allow from five to eight best-picture nominees.

But Entertainment Weekly Oscar analyst Dave Karger isn't convinced that any movies out yet will make the cut — and guesses he could better handicap the industry's dubious honors than its solemn ones.

"I could name you more top contenders for the Razzies (the Golden Raspberry Awards, honoring the worst in film) than I could for the Oscars," Karger says. "It's been a wasteland." Of the movies out so far, he considers only The Dark Knight Rises "a true contender. And even that was not as well received as The Dark Knight."

Outlook: Solid. The Dark Knight became the first comic-book movie to win a major Oscar (a posthumous supporting-actor prize for Heath Ledger), and the academy "may be looking to honor the franchise, as they did The Lord of the Rings," says Tom O'Neil, author of Movie Awards.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies...sible-summer-film-oscar-contenders/57258206/1

 

[Chrisbarnes182]

I dont know if this has already been posted but it made me laugh.

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[Ramsay Snow]

Instead of doing Justice League, Warner Bros. should first do A Tale of Two Cities - an epic story that spans both Gotham and Metropolis - a good live-action Batman/Superman crossover.

 

[Klidokrator]

I don't know... I don't think I want to see another Bruce Wayne story... But it would be really cool if batman's sacrifice inspired other heroes out of Gotham, resulting the expanded dc universe, without touching the Nolan trilogy... Just a thought...

 

[CConn]

Instead of doing Justice League, Warner Bros. should first do A Tale of Two Cities - an epic story that spans both Gotham and Metropolis - a good live-action Batman/Superman crossover.

So they should remake a TDKR with Superman involved?

 

[Ramsay Snow]

So they should remake a TDKR with Superman involved?

The only thing that this would have in common with A Tale of Two Cities would be the name, otherwise it would be different

 

[Doctor Who]

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Bane has become an online sensation... and I can't stop laughing.

 

[Doctor Who]

I dont know if this has already been posted but it made me laugh.

[YT]fLyoog562x4[/YT]

Good call Loki! Have some money. *hands over tissue box*

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

''Well poop... I guess this means we're screwed''.

Gordon's voice was my favourite in that. t:

 

[Deserana]

Saw it for the fourth time today. Loved every minute and the majority of my minor niggles just seemed to disappear. I just sat back and enjoyed it as a piece of pure entertainment. I had no problems with pace this time, it had a perfect final story, brilliant action scenes, brilliant acting, great characters, Miranda seemed to be in it just the right amount actually this time.

However my main issues are still all there. The people of Gotham needed to feel like another character, the war should have been bigger/longer and Talia should have been revealed earlier. The story warranted a two parter IMO.

BB - 10/10
TDK - 10/10
TDKR - 9.5/10

However, even though I have rated it the lowest if you asked me next week I'd probably say TDKR was the best, the week after I'd say BB. A truly phenomenal trilogy and Hathaway gets sexier every viewing.

Hans Zimmer's soundtrack also sensational.

 

[Vengeance of Bane]

Quick question in relations to the score. Just after tending to Selina, Blake storms out of the bar there's a piece of great music which wasn't in the released score. I was just wondering if that has been released on some of the soundtrack apps ect.

 

[Anno_Domini]

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies...sible-summer-film-oscar-contenders/57258206/1

Wait, wait....yes? Yes? Could TDKR be nominated as I had hoped from the beginning?

AMERICA!

 

[Deserana]

At the moment TDKR is the best film of the year IMO but no way I can see it winning any major awards. If the academy award it for it as the trilogy I just find that just a little.... I dunno patronising I guess. It should be rated as TDKR itself, not the three films together as much as I think the trilogy does deserve an award.

 

[Anno_Domini]

At the moment TDKR is the best film of the year IMO but no way I can see it winning any major awards. If the academy award it for it being an achievement I just find that just a little.... I dunno patronising I guess.

How so?

If Avatar won Best Film, that would've been patronizing over giving a film an award of being an achievement in filming and not exactly being a great film as Avatar certainly isn't.

 

[Deserana]

How so?

If Avatar won Best Film, that would've been patronizing over giving a film an award of being an achievement in filming and not exactly being a great film as Avatar certainly isn't.

But that is still rating it as a single film and many feel (as annoying as it is) that Avatar was the best film of that year.

I feel if TDKR somehow won Best Pic it wouldn't be because TDKR itself deserved Best Pic but instead that the whole trilogy was great. To me if that is what happens it will be more the academy saying "Sorry we didn't give TDK a nomination or Nolan a directing nomination yet to say sorry here is Best Picture for TDKR". Unfortunately though that is how the academy works. It is based on "turns" rather than actual acting or films so you never know it may happen.

 

[weezerspider]

As far as how Batman escaped at the end, I think he left the Bat before it left the city. We see his finger about to hit the fire button in The Bat and then we see the explosion Blake mistakes for the Bomb and The Bat flies out. The remaining shots of Batman are all close ups of his head so you can't tell exactly where he is. I always assumed the explosion was some sort of pod being released(maybe the whole cockpit) and the reason the rest of the Batman shots are close-ups is so we can see a bit of the background and mistake it for being in The Bat, when actually he is safely out in some sort of escape Pod. Just my thoughts.

 

[Anno_Domini]

But that is still rating it as a single film and many feel (as annoying as it is) that Avatar was the best film of that year.

I feel if TDKR somehow won Best Pic it wouldn't be because TDKR itself deserved Best Pic but instead that the whole trilogy was great. To me if that is what happens it will be more the academy saying "Sorry we didn't give TDK a nomination or Nolan a directing nomination yet to say sorry here is Best Picture for TDKR". Unfortunately though that is how the academy works. It is based on "turns" rather than actual acting or films so you never know it may happen.

Couldn't someone say the same for Return of the King since The Two Towers didn't win Best Film? That Return of the King won Best Film more or less for the entire trilogy?

Imo, the nominees were broaden by the exclusion of TDK, and if TDKR wins, it's not because TDK couldn't. It's because finally CBMs are given recognition as TDK should've received.

 

[weezerspider]

Let's get this out of the way: TDKR is not winning Best Picture. There are too many "Oscar-Friendly" films coming out that have too much potential. One of them is bound to live-up to the hype and be the Oscar darling. I've seen The Master and its incredible. That or Lincoln will be a much easier pick for The Academy. Its nothing against TDKR. I love it and it'll probably be my personal favorite of the year, but this is not a good year for it's Oscar Chances.

For a comic book film to win Best Picture a lot of things need to happen:

1. The comic film has to have near universal acclaim.
2. It has to have someone the Academy respects attached to it.
3. It has to be a very weak year for films.
4. None of the "Oscar-Bait" films can live up to their hype.

 

[Reek]

What's on Nolan's menu (after TDKR)?

Nightwing Begins

 

[BatLobster]

Even if it gets a nomination, it'll still be the first CBM to be nominated for Best Picture, so it's an accomplishment. Some people think Avengers has an equal, if not better shot at being nominated. I personally have no idea which way the Academy will go.

Either way though, this discussion would simply not be happening if not for the controversy with TDK. So if the genre is ever awarded this way, TDK will always be the film that started to break the mold.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

I dont know if this has already been posted but it made me laugh.

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[Deserana]

Even if it gets a nomination, it'll still be the first CBM to be nominated for Best Picture, so it's an accomplishment. Some people think Avengers has an equal, if not better shot at being nominated. I personally have no idea which way the Academy will go.

Either way though, this discussion would simply not be happening if not for the controversy with TDK. So if the genre is ever awarded this way, TDK will always be the film that started to break the mold.

I will completely gobsmacked if Avengers gets nominated over TDKR.