The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - Part 140

[Tacit Ronin]

I think cinematography in the helicarrier interior looked especially bland. Just compare it to the interior (lens flare aside) of the Starship in Star Trek, there is no comparison.

 

[Ultimatehero]

I'd say there are cinematographers just as good and some considered better. Other than that statement. As said, just don't think companies or people making these kinds of public remarks is needed- I mean, why??? My best guess with this guy is a reporter trapped him in the question and only spread that part of it. Hugo Weaving... unsure what's going on there lol. Just, as someone 'in' the industry (writing, I know absolutely nothing about anything else nor would ever pretend to), I don't see the reason for this to become public knowledge. Due to getting poorer, although still good, reviews- it does come off probably not with his intent either. As said, I just think the reporter trapped him in the question. There's just something unprofessional about randomly issuing a statement which causes one to question why.

 

[CapedCrusader14]

It wasn't that Modine was awful, it's that his character was awful.

My friends and I started laughing every time appeared on screen.

Somebody should've got you hotheads out of the cinema

 

[BH/HHH]

I was more annoyed with his writing than his performance. I didn't care for how he took seemingly every opportunity to throw the insult "hothead" at John Blake.

Or that Joker didn't return to paint the smile on his face, just for fans of Full Metal Jacket.

Ha ha

Maybe it was the way he was written but I thought he came across really corny and don't get e started on his edited death lol.

 

[shauner111]

I actually enjoyed Modine's character because he was the corny cop who thinks he knows everything when he really doesn't. I still laugh when i think of him. He was such a doofus and JGL's facial expressions/remarks at him were hilarious. Especially that one look he gives while looking forward when they're driving. I think it's when Foley says "Then he's just as stupid as he dresses!".

LOL he was such a pain in the ass. Calling him a hothead when he was just really enthusiastic. It was like his defense mechanism when he knows Blakes doing the better job. Again, that face JGL makes in the hospital like "is this guy on crack? im acting normal".

 

[The Joker]

Which means he didn't understand Knight, which is totally about Batman but from a different perspective.

I've always felt the same way

Am I the only one who thought Matthew Modine was awful in this film? I really think they could've just cut his character out.

His acting wasn't bad. The character was. Modine was forgettable in the role, but then I'd see any competent actor struggling to make Foley a memorable or interesting character.

For me he just wasted valuable screen time that could have been better spent on more worthy characters like Selina.

His character was needed for his dramatically beautiful death.

It was funny because the way the camera zoomed in on his dead body implied we were supposed to care he was dead. After him and Bane, the movie then went for a hat trick for bad death scenes with Talia's.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Maybe we would've cared if they kept his awesome death scene.

 

[BatLobster]

I wonder if they cut that more for violence reasons or time reasons. It was pretty intense.

 

[slimshady247]

*whistles*

 

[Alex Logan]

Does anyone know what this is about?

https://***********/CaptainPainway/status/258393080695255041

 

[solidsnake86]

4. Cinematography is just one aspect of many in a film - and to mirror what I said in my first point - just because you love Captain America, or Chris Hemsworth's muscly chest or the Avengger's thrilling story, doesn't mean you have to love absolutely everything about it. It's okay to say - yeah, I enjoyed the hell out of Avengers, but the cinematography could be better. It's not a war, it's not an all or nothing thing. And that type of thinking belongs in kindergartens, not in a mature and intelligent society.

Wait a minute, you don't have to love everything, mind=blown

 

[SE7EN]

Does anyone know what this is about?

https://***********/CaptainPainway/status/258393080695255041

At the debates last night, Romney basically answered a question about ak-47s with a line about kids needing two parent homes and better economy. Not additional regulation but better enforcement, etc.

 

[TheBat812]

I wonder if they cut that more for violence reasons or time reasons. It was pretty intense.

What was his original death scene?

 

[Brother Jack]

Am I the only one who thought Matthew Modine was awful in this film? I really think they could've just cut his character out.

His character was pretty much a *****e through most of the movie, but it was for a reason. It demonstrated how the police force had gotten in a bad state from years of relative inactivity, so you have a police chief who's only concerned with making a name for himself by catching public enemy number one. In a larger sense it shows the problems that remained in Gotham despite organized crime being stamped out. And his transition from that to the guy leading the cops against Bane demonstrates Batman's positive inspiration in the city. His death was edited pretty awkwardly in the movie but there's an appropriateness to him going out in the way a nameless Gothamite would.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Nameless Gothamites don't get ennobled in an isolated shot of his lifeless carcass from a point of view that demands judgement.

 

[TheBat812]

Nameless Gothamites don't get ennobled in an isolated shot of his lifeless carcass from a point of view that demands judgement.

well, the shot itself is pretty subjective, but doesn't the camera pull in and lower, signifying that Modine's now in a position of metaphorical power because of his change in viewpoint? It's all interpretive.

The character of Modine and his arc are integral to seeing the trickle down effect of hope that Batman has on Gothamites. The execution of his arc is the sloppiest thing Nolan has done in the series though.

What was the way he originally died?

 

[Tacit Ronin]

A Tumbler ran him over. It was one of the most chilling stunts I've ever seen, even in raw form.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

A Tumbler ran him over. It was one of the most chilling stunts I've ever seen, even in raw form.

Chilling? That's a relatively common stunt. In fact, it's one of the major stunts you learn as a stuntman because of how common it is.

I get shocking, in terms of writing. But chilling as a stunt, I dunno. I'd just be pissed if they filmed that for me (as a stuntman), and then didn't include it in the movie. It's a pretty painful stunt, even when done right.

 

[BatLobster]

Here's the stunt for anyone who hasn't seen it. 1:17

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[Goku Goes Crazy]

What do you guys think of Bruce's Leg brace? Did he still have it on during the prison? If not, how do you rationalize him being able to walk fine without it? Could you say that the leg brace wasn't just a device to help him walk with it on, but also to fix his leg in an immediate fashion, so that by the time Bane took it off, he could walk.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

God that just pisses me off that they cut that. Is it really that big a deal, to show that?

 

[TheBat812]

It probably just didn't work very well on camera. Tbh, it wasn't exactly an amazing looking stunt. Doesn't even look like he'd die from that, clearly. I think they just didn't get the shots they were hoping for and luckily had that ambiguous coverage.

 

[Alexei Belyakov]

I think cinematography in the helicarrier interior looked especially bland. Just compare it to the interior (lens flare aside) of the Starship in Star Trek, there is no comparison.

This.

There were moments where I felt like I was watching Star Trek: The Next Generation.

I love that show, don't get me wrong. But Avengers wasn't shot with a $30,000 production budget in 1988.

Wally's comments will actually gain support once he gets Nominated for TDKR in January. If the film does indeed nab a Best Picture Nomination, the U.S. Government will build solid gold statues of Pfister outside of Whedon & McGarvey's houses.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

God that just pisses me off that they cut that. Is it really that big a deal, to show that?

Although this is really, I guess, nitpicky, for lack of a better word, part of me is wondering if it was because it doesn't translate that well to camera because the only feasible way to do it was to have him go over one of the front tires... And if you get hit by a tire, you're not flying over it, you're going under it.

Sounds a little too particular, but it works in my head.

 

[Doctor Who]

I was zipping threw Oldman clips on youtube and saw a photo: something that unleashed a very deep truth.