The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 147

[The Shape]

Just thought of one actually,

The Dark Knight Mildly Disappoints Because People Expected Something As Good As The Dark Knight.

So clever! Kudos!

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Just thought of one actually,

The Dark Knight Mildly Disappoints Because People Expected Something As Good As The Dark Knight.

 

[BatLobster]

lol

 

[Green Goblin]

I'm really, genuinely sorry. It was inevitable

 

[milost]

I'm sure even Walter White thought TDKR sucked.

 

[BatLobster]

Walter White technically

Spoiler

died in 2010 and didn't live to see it.

I'm sure he could offer his insight on Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium though. t:

 

[A Necessary Evil]

I wonder what he would have thought of these movies, lol.

 

[BatLobster]

The show spans 2 years and starts in 2008, no?

 

[Green Goblin]

Does anyone here actually think TDKR is better than TDK?

 

[milost]

We do have a few inoncsistencies here and there, to be sure. We try not to set it in any particular time. Going backwards, I don't think we ever say. We do have clues, like in the first episode, Walt's hanidcap placard has the date 2007 on it, which if I had my druthers, I'd go back and change. Every now and then you'll see a license plate or something else, like a plaque in Pollos Hermanos saying it was voted "Favorite Restaurant 2010." As time has progressed, a few of these things have slipped by. But in my mind's eye, this is the present. What I mean by that is, I like people in 2007 thinking this is the present, and now in 2012 thinking this is the present and next year in 2013. At a certain point, 20 years from now, it will, based on clothing and technology and cars, it'll begin to feel more of a specific time, but in my mind's eye I see it as continually the present. That's also why we don't ever say what month it is.

So yeah, Walter White thought TDKR sucked. So did Jesse, Mike and Hank.


Todd and the Nazi's thought it was cool though.

 

[shauner111]

Does anyone here actually think TDKR is better than TDK?

Yes, I do. Well better is subjective with art. But I enjoy it more.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

The show spans 2 years and starts in 2008, no?

I remember reading somewhere his birth date was September of 1959....could be wrong though.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

So yeah, Walter White thought TDKR sucked. So did Jesse, Mike and Hank.


Todd and the Nazi's thought it was cool though.

 

[BatLobster]

So yeah, Walter White thought TDKR sucked. So did Jesse, Mike and Hank.


Todd and the Nazi's thought it was cool though.

Ah, so Breaking Bad actually has the same slippery timeline issue that The Dark Knight Trilogy does. Heh.

You know who loved TDKR though? Rian Johnson. Who directed arguably the best BB episode of them all. And is also a real person.

 

[Shikamaru]

The show spans 2 years and starts in 2008, no?

Starts in 2009. So he at least saw TDK.

 

[GremlinZilla89]

Does anyone here actually think TDKR is better than TDK?

Right here. It's climax builds and builds to a satisfying ending. TDK feels like it should have ended 20 minutes before it did.

 

[Shikamaru]

Speaking of TDKR's ending, I've stated before that I would have preferred Batman moving to Belize instead of Europe.

After a weary career as a vigilante, what would seem like more of a relaxing life and better fresh new start to you?

Belize:

Or Florence:

Happy ending, you say? I think not.

 

[Green Goblin]

I thought he went to the city from taken 2...

 

[bilbo baggins]

i just read the tdkr novels endng and its says alfred looks over and sees bruce and selina, nods, walks off with a spring in his step, BUT HE DOESNT LOOK BACK. its like the writer is saying that alfred is scared if he looks back then they werent real. am i looking to much into nothing or is that line have a deeper meaning. thoughts anyone.

 

[BatLobster]

i just read the tdkr novels endng and its says alfred looks over and sees bruce and selina, nods, walks off with a spring in his step, BUT HE DOESNT LOOK BACK. its like the writer is saying that alfred is scared if he looks back then they werent real. am i looking to much into nothing or is that line have a deeper meaning. thoughts anyone.

Dude, for the hundreth time, yes you are looking too much into this. Bruce is alive at the end of TDKR. That is the intended meaning. There is literally nothing else to discuss. You're driving yourself crazy for no reason!

 

[Travesty]

Bruce is totally dead dude. You have it right.

 

[ChrisB]

Does anyone here actually think TDKR is better than TDK?

I think TDK is the better movie, but TDKR is my favorite of the 3.

 

[bilbo baggins]

Dude, for the hundreth time, yes you are looking too much into this. Bruce is alive at the end of TDKR. That is the intended meaning. There is literally nothing else to discuss. You're driving yourself crazy for no reason!

yes batlobster i am literaly obsessed with the ending! bruce-batman has always been my favorite superhero. i just wish nolan could confirm the ending. i cant even believe some people wanted him to die, just cant fathom why. i loved this movie but the ending is where its at for me and i wanted him to have his happy ending, but the sequence of shots of him in the bat makes it hard to belive he lived.not to mention nolans grounded take on the trilogy. if it was burton, or heck any other director i wouldnt have thought twice about it. just give a brother a confirmation nolan. im going crazy. so in conclusion i appologise to all other members of this site for my inability to settle is he or isnt he rant. jeez i thought this was the EPIC CONCLUSSION movie ending and people are still confused about how bruces journey ended.

 

[BatLobster]

yes batlobster i am literaly obsessed with the ending! bruce-batman has always been my favorite superhero. i just wish nolan could confirm the ending. i cant even believe some people wanted him to die, just cant fathom why. i loved this movie but the ending is where its at for me and i wanted him to have his happy ending, but the sequence of shots of him in the bat makes it hard to belive he lived.not to mention nolans grounded take on the trilogy. if it was burton, or heck any other director i wouldnt have thought twice about it. just give a brother a confirmation nolan. im going crazy. so in conclusion i appologise to all other members of this site for my inability to settle is he or isnt he rant. jeez i thought this was the EPIC CONCLUSSION movie ending and people are still confused about how bruces journey ended.

You're the only one that's confused man. Sure, a few people after the movie came out tried to make the case for an "Inception" ending, but they were quickly shot down and became the vast minority. Nobody would've even brought that up if it weren't for Inception.

It's this simple: if Nolan had showed Batman ejecting from The Bat, you wouldn't get the same emotional lift from seeing him alive at the end. He had to put the audience in the mindset that he was at least possibly dead in order for the whole sequencing of the ending to work. So he used some editing trickery.

Also, it makes less sense for that scene in Florence to be a fantasy sequence. What other fantasy sequences were there in the trilogy? There's no precedent for it. The ending of Inception had intentional ambiguity because the whole movie was about the nature of reality. TDKR wasn't about that, it was about a broken man finding the will to live again late in his life and then finding a fresh start for himself. If they were going to go for irony there with him sacrificing his life after he's found the will to live, the only way to have done that would be to actually definitively have him die. Showing him alive in a fantasy sequence would only serve to confuse that while also being completely random considering there are no other fantasy sequences in the movies.

Bottom line, if Nolan wanted to kill Bruce he would've actually killed him with no ambiguity. I believe he had the balls to do it if that was the direction he felt the story needed to go. Luckily, he thought the opposite was the case. Listen to me bilbo, I'm trying to help you!

 

[A Necessary Evil]

i just read the tdkr novels endng and its says alfred looks over and sees bruce and selina, nods, walks off with a spring in his step, BUT HE DOESNT LOOK BACK. its like the writer is saying that alfred is scared if he looks back then they werent real. am i looking to much into nothing or is that line have a deeper meaning. thoughts anyone.

Yo, you seem like a nice enough dude, but you're either trolling or you just don't get it. He's alive and well, kicking back with Selina, maybe having a couple of BatCat kids.