They will humor him as long as he plays ball with them, but a proper DCCU will make the studio way more money than Interstellar 2: The Reckoning ever will. They will follow the money.
Well, Inception grossed a fair amount more than Man of Steel worldwide, so there's that.
Oh please. We are all fans of Nolan. Well I am. I simply disagree with how much power he has (and would even care to have, since he is done with DC superheroes as far as we can tell) and you're pissy about that, I guess? This isn't about TDKR, so you don't need to get touchy
Look, I know that. This isn't about being fans of Nolan vs. not being fans, it's just about appreciating the full dynamics of a situation that's a little more nuanced than people are acknowledging. I do think it could've happened under the right set of circumstances (the main one being Neeson
really wanting to do it). Nolan is done with DC, but it's a faulty assumption to say he doesn't care at all about the legacy of his films and doesn't prefer for them to be left alone, or that there are execs at WB who aren't the least bit aware and sensitive to that.
I've never had a problem with you IATK, and I agree with the gist of what you're saying. The reason I replied to you is, you invoked the "Nolan doesn't own Batman" thing, which is unfortunately a big pet peeve of mine because it's always felt like a strawman argument to me. I've never seen anybody seriously suggest or even imply such a thing, and it's just a lazy argument to use.
Sorry for dragging this one on but honestly, all shauner did in the first place was express his disinterest in Liam Neeson appearing on Arrow, probably because he's not a fan of Arrow. No mention of Nolan or anything like that. It was Kane (no offense Kane, I love ya bro) who opened that can of worms in the first place. Just felt like a "let's gang up on shauner" session, so I threw my .02 into the mix.
Read above. It's funny to me how MOS evolved into something quite different than what Nolan probably intended. WB will follow the money.
Of course they will, you're right of course. The thing is, saying "Nolan's concerns are a factor at the studio" is not at all the same as saying "Nolan is the tail that wags the dog at WB and they will cater to his every wish, no matter how petty."
The reboot of Batman was obviously inevitable, Nolan even said he was excited to see the next reinvention of Batman circa-2012. Heck, the whole ending of TDKR is kind of a nod to the idea of Batman continuing on and on in different forms, etc. Did he want that reboot to be a universe shared with MoS? Nope. Did things take a 180 from what he had originally intended? Absolutely they did. But he already had more distance from it to begin with in the producer role- MoS had naturally became more of Snyder's baby when it was all said and done. So moving on from that working relationship was probably more amicable and smoother than it would've been if WB had pulled the same thing during his run on Batman (and they did try as we already dicussed). This is still a studio that went out of their way to get a piece of the action on Interstellar when it was supposed to just be a Paramount project. Why? Because there is a certain culture there, they have a prestigious image as a studio that they like to maintain, and want to continue to be the "home" studio for the Afflecks, Nolans and Eastwoods of the world.
Make sense?
Again, Liam Neeson is free to do what he wants, and he apparently wanted to play Ra's again. Now, he might be confused about what "Arrow" is, and he maybe thought they were talking about another Batman movie where he would play Ra's again. But anway, (this may come as a shock to you), Nolan didn't invent Ra's Al Ghul. Ultimately, WB can do what they want with the characters they own, which is why MOS is the start of the DCCU, instead of it's own separate thing, which is what Nolan wanted.
