The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - Part 155

[Guts]

Bruce and Joker both used the same lines in Batman and The Dark Knight. Maybe the Joker in Suicide Squad is actually Bruce Wayne instead of Jason Todd.

 

[shauner111]

So Roven says Batman vs Superman has about 1500 VFX shots. I think TDKR was around 400 or 500. Of course, this movie has Superman and Wonder Woman in it, but it still makes me smile when i see a modern action director use minimal CG and FX. I can't imagine how many Warcraft will have. God that trailer looked so fake. Thank God for directors like Rian Johnson, Nolan, Abrams (at times), George Miller who want to keep things old school.

Too many directors are giving in to this digital frenzy and blockbusters end up looking so fake. Video game movie or not, im sure Duncan Jones could have strived for Lord of the Rings instead of Hobbit if you know what im sayin.

I just dont care for seeing Snyder CG up the Batman when he's by himself. It's different if he's in a fight sequence with Supes. In the same shot. But let's not get too carried away.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

It's interesting to me that the Nolan film with the most effect shots is Batman Begins. As his films got bigger and more daring he was using LESS effects shots. That is amazing. Interstellar has less effects shots than BB. Think on it.

 

[The Shape]

So Roven says Batman vs Superman has about 1500 VFX shots. I think TDKR was around 400 or 500. Of course, this movie has Superman and Wonder Woman in it, but it still makes me smile when i see a modern action director use minimal CG and FX. I can't imagine how many Warcraft will have. God that trailer looked so fake. Thank God for directors like Rian Johnson, Nolan, Abrams (at times), George Miller who want to keep things old school.

Too many directors are giving in to this digital frenzy and blockbusters end up looking so fake. Video game movie or not, im sure Duncan Jones could have strived for Lord of the Rings instead of Hobbit if you know what im sayin.

For comparison and perspective, Captain America: The First Avenger had 1600 VFX shots, Captain America: The Winter Soldier had at least 2500 VFX shots and Age of Ultron had over 3000. As far as big budget superhero blockbusters with fantastical elements go, the number of VFX shots in BvS seems to actually be on the lower side.

Oh, and Mad Max had over 2000 VFX shots to accentuate what was shot on set. I think when people hear "VFX shots", they automatically assume that means "making things in CGI", which isn't true. Much of the time, it can refer to removing things like rigs via computer imaging, touching things up, backgrounds, etc.

I just dont care for seeing Snyder CG up the Batman when he's by himself. It's different if he's in a fight sequence with Supes. In the same shot. But let's not get too carried away.

Didn't you hear? Batman will be completely CGI in every shot of the film. That shot of Batman standing across from Superman in the Batmobile is nothing more than a CG model. Pretty damn impressive, if you ask me.

 

[shauner111]

Yeah, it's not too over the top when you compare. The difference with Mad Max though, is how it's executed. Just by looking at the trailers, im not sure if Batman vs Superman is going to look like it's less than Mad Max in the number of VFX shots. The only thing that looked video gamey to me in Mad Max was the storm, as cool as it was.

It's interesting to me that the Nolan film with the most effect shots is Batman Begins. As his films got bigger and more daring he was using LESS effects shots. That is amazing. Interstellar has less effects shots than BB. Think on it.

That's insane.

 

[BatLobster]

It's interesting to me that the Nolan film with the most effect shots is Batman Begins. As his films got bigger and more daring he was using LESS effects shots. That is amazing. Interstellar has less effects shots than BB. Think on it.

That is pretty amazing when you think about it.

And I'm sorry, there is still no excuse for that crap shot of Batman firing the grappling gun in the trailer. There's no reason not to capture something like that with an actor, even if it's green screen. CGing human characters should always be a last resort. It's one thing if it's just a gliding/flying shot where they're a blur, but when you have a moment like that where Batman is in one spot, turning...not good. No amount of rendering will fix that.

I actually think Snyder directing a CG-animated superhero film would be amazing though.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

It's because Batman Begins has a lot of green screen work, due to being shot on soundstages most of the time. With Knight, TDKR and Inception he shot on location as much as he possibly could. For Interstellar, he understandably had to go back to shooting in a studio, but it infamously only has one green screen shot or something. Yup. I have no idea how that happened. But it did. He projected shots of actual planets for the actors to see, not a blue cloth. Basically the opposite of Lucas.

 

[Kane52630]

 

[Tacit Ronin]

I know about the great use of miniatures. But those miniatures were embellished with CGI and as you can see, green screened backgrounds. Those count as effects shots. His use of green screen is severely lessened in TDK, Rises, Inception and Interstellar.

 

[Guts]

 

[Kane52630]

http://kane52630.tumblr.com/post/133053074394

 

[I Am The Knight]

I don't get it...What does Shia Labeouf have to do with Baneposting?

 

[The Joker]

http://kane52630.tumblr.com/post/133053074394

 

[Guts]

Christian Bale Honors Fan's Dying Wish

 

[Kane52630]

What a noble thing he did.

 

[antsman41]

The TDKRises vinyl sounded good, but I finally snagged TDK on vinyl... and oh my zod. It blows the Blu-Ray out of the water. It's like having Howard/Zimmer in your loving room.

I still need to buy BB, but it's usually only at Hot Topic for $40...

 

[I Am The Knight]

The TDKRises vinyl sounded good, but I finally snagged TDK on vinyl... and oh my zod. It blows the Blu-Ray out of the water. It's like having Howard/Zimmer in your loving room.

I still need to buy BB, but it's usually only at Hot Topic for $40...

I would imagine it would be quite good

 

[titansupes]

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Imagine thrusting in sync to every Zimmerific percussion. His musical cues so in tune with the moans and screams that you don't know where one begins and the other ends. Not just an orgasm for the ears.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Given the tragedy that occurred on France, the stadium explosion seems a lot more scary and real now.

 

[The Joker]

Horrible tragic incident. And a terrible irony it happened on Friday the 13th, too.

 

[shauner111]

This whole scene may be scarier and more real as time goes on, unfortunately. Well, fortunately for the longevity of this film, and unfortunately for obvious reasons.

Humanity never fails to disappoint me.

 

[sabetoonth]

Given the tragedy that occurred on France, the stadium explosion seems a lot more scary and real now.

 

[shauner111]

^I dont get the use of that gif.

 

[ThePhantasm]

What Bane did in the stadium isn't even comparable to what just happened in France.