The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - Part 156

[Blade Hoarder]

After revisiting The Batman in theaters this week, it kinda hit me what was missing from it that the Dark Knight Trilogy has in spades.

Soul.

There's this intangible heart to these three films - with characters you connect with emotionally, rather than ones you analyze. There's moments of heartfelt reflection in each of these films that just endear.

These might be among the most 'human' of films in Nolan's filmography.

The Batman is very cerebral for a big budget film intended for a four quadrant audience. Nolan’s films never forgot to be sweeping blockbusters even if they pushed the envelope a bit.

 

[Kane52630]

Still wild to me that they left this off from the main soundtrack.

 

[Drizzle]

Still wild to me that they left this off from the main soundtrack.

Me with this part of the track from the TDK score:

 

[Kane52630]

I remember making a few Riddler posters myself.

 

[OrbOfConfusion]

Nolan-adjacent.

So who's got the money?

 

[J.Drangal]

Nolan-adjacent.

So who's got the money?

What are the shipping costs for Europe?

 

[Awest66]

I remember making a few Riddler posters myself.

The Batman (2022) really feels like what these fans were speculating about what the sequel to The Dark Knight was going to be.

 

[JackWhite]

Me with this part of the track from the TDK score:

When that part of the soundtrack hits; while Batman goes ham on the two swat teams and the Joker's men? Instant chills.

 

[J.Drangal]

Me with this part of the track from the TDK score:

Very unpopular opinion: I always felt that this variation/arrangement of the theme was a little too bright for Batman.

Even in the context of heroic action, it still feels slightly (very slightly!) off to me and always has.
I remember listening to the soundtrack before the movie came out and getting curious right away about the context for that piece.
I know, I know...

To be clear, I'm not saying it doesn't sound good, it sound f***ing epic!
But... yeah.

I've always preferred the Batman Begins motif (heard in Molossus if I remember correctly) and I wish it had been used more in the trilogy beyond the first film.

 

[Drizzle]

Very unpopular opinion: I always felt that this variation/arrangement of the theme was a little too bright for Batman.

Even in the context of heroic action, it still feels slightly (very slightly!) off to me and always has.
I remember listening to the soundtrack before the movie came out and getting curious right away about the context for that piece.
I know, I know...

To be clear, I'm not saying it doesn't sound good, it sound f***ing epic!
But... yeah.

I've always preferred the Batman Begins motif (heard in Molossus if I remember correctly) and I wish it had been used more in the trilogy beyond the first film.

Oh I did the same thing. In hindsight I can only imagine that it was either an alternate take of the scene near the end where Batman fights the SWAT team or it was intended to be used during the Tumbler/Batpod chase scene since that scene largely has no score.

Totally agreed about Molossus not being reused. I wonder if it's because that motif was a James Newton Howard piece and he had less involvement on TDK? Not sure.

 

[BobJM]

The Batman (2022) really feels like what these fans were speculating about what the sequel to The Dark Knight was going to be.

It’d work in Nolan’s universe too. Maybe swap Carmine for Alberto Falcone though—Alberto was even rumored for TDKR at one point

 

[Gothamsknight]

Nolan-adjacent.

So who's got the money?

This will be mine

 

[BatLobster]

Very unpopular opinion: I always felt that this variation/arrangement of the theme was a little too bright for Batman.

Even in the context of heroic action, it still feels slightly (very slightly!) off to me and always has.
I remember listening to the soundtrack before the movie came out and getting curious right away about the context for that piece.
I know, I know...

To be clear, I'm not saying it doesn't sound good, it sound f***ing epic!
But... yeah.

I've always preferred the Batman Begins motif (heard in Molossus if I remember correctly) and I wish it had been used more in the trilogy beyond the first film.

To me, it's pretty much the Zimmer-ized version of the Shirley Walker theme, or in that vicinity at least. I enjoy a more heroically-tinged Batman theme so I'm glad it exists, but I guess Nolan may have agreed with you since it was used extremely sparingly in the movie. Though it's still the main theme that gets used for the endings of TDK/TDKR though. Just the softer, less bombastic version.

 

[Blade Hoarder]

The recent news of the delay of the Batman part 2 to 2027 (!) has made me realize how fortunate we were to have a steady pace of release of the trilogy. Not to mention Nolan got to make two films for himself in between.

BB > the prestige > TDK > Inception > Rises was such a crazy run in hindsight. Wow.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

The recent news of the delay of the Batman part 2 to 2027 (!) has made me realize how fortunate we were to have a steady pace of release of the trilogy. Not to mention Nolan got to make two films for himself in between.

BB > the prestige > TDK > Inception > Rises was such a crazy run in hindsight. Wow.

That really is an unbelievable run. Nolan did NOT mess around.

 

[Ryan]

I doubt it but would anyone still have or know where to find rare pics from the dark knight trilogy other than moviestills page?? thanks

 

[The Joker]

I doubt it but would anyone still have or know where to find rare pics from the dark knight trilogy other than moviestills page?? thanks

There's a few floating around in the Heath Joker thread.

 

[BatLobster]

The recent news of the delay of the Batman part 2 to 2027 (!) has made me realize how fortunate we were to have a steady pace of release of the trilogy. Not to mention Nolan got to make two films for himself in between.

BB > the prestige > TDK > Inception > Rises was such a crazy run in hindsight. Wow.

And then he made Interstellar another two years later!

Hopefully more people are realizing now how special that time period was. Even Nolan himself has slowed down a bit since then, but man that was a hell of an era for him.

 

[Primal Slayer]

The recent news of the delay of the Batman part 2 to 2027 (!) has made me realize how fortunate we were to have a steady pace of release of the trilogy. Not to mention Nolan got to make two films for himself in between.

BB > the prestige > TDK > Inception > Rises was such a crazy run in hindsight. Wow.

And shows had 22 episodes. GoT came out yearly. Good times

 

[Ryan]

There's a few floating around in the Heath Joker thread.

Thank you so much!

 

[Awest66]

(Sigh) Someone on Youtube made another video about how the TDK Trilogy "ruined the modern perception of Batman".

Fans who rag on the trilogy have a really superficial view of what constitutes as a "good Batman movie"

 

[The Joker]

(Sigh) Someone on Youtube made another video about how the TDK Trilogy "ruined the modern perception of Batman".

Fans who rag on the trilogy have a really superficial view of what constitutes as a "good Batman movie"

I don't know why you care about videos like that. They have no influence. Just like the ones that say the Snyderverse was good. They're not going to change the perception of those movies.

 

[BatLobster]

(Sigh) Someone on Youtube made another video about how the TDK Trilogy "ruined the modern perception of Batman".

Fans who rag on the trilogy have a really superficial view of what constitutes as a "good Batman movie"

Here, wash that down with these:

 

[Dede]

I’ve honestly seen more things like the Batman is objectively better than the trilogy which I find strange. I think the film is good but not quite to the level of the trilogy but maybe it’s sequels will. Even the critic and audience ratings support this yet there’s a loud group.

 

[Dede]

After revisiting The Batman in theaters this week, it kinda hit me what was missing from it that the Dark Knight Trilogy has in spades.

Soul.

There's this intangible heart to these three films - with characters you connect with emotionally, rather than ones you analyze. There's moments of heartfelt reflection in each of these films that just endear.

These might be among the most 'human' of films in Nolan's filmography.

I think the Batman had soul but what was missing was the connection with Alfred. I didn’t really sense anything emotional bond