The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - Part 156

[BatLobster]

Is it weird that I STILL choke up at the bit where Alfred nods when seeing Bruce in Italy? I love how Zimmers music starts right before we see him. ugh, what a beautiful ending. I think a new era of Batman has started to highlight for me even more how important these movies are to me.

It's not weird! It's honestly one of the most emotional endings to a trilogy I can think of. Probably even more than Luke seeing the Force ghosts for me. It's up there however you want to slice it.

The way that moment is executed though is chef's kiss. When Zimmer's percussion kicks in, I just remember being like "Don't you f***ing cut away Nolan!" and then it cut to Bruce and Selina, I melted into my seat and it was everything. A moment I'll always treasure.

 

[The Joker]

This put a smile on my face! Its very well done. Sequel to the next Joker movie. Joker: No Way Home.

 

[BMW 224]

It's not weird! It's honestly one of the most emotional endings to a trilogy I can think of. Probably even more than Luke seeing the Force ghosts for me. It's up there however you want to slice it.

The way that moment is executed though is chef's kiss. When Zimmer's percussion kicks in, I just remember being like "Don't you f***ing cut away Nolan!" and then it cut to Bruce and Selina, I melted into my seat and it was everything. A moment I'll always treasure.

This was my Endgame or Return of the jedi.

Beautiful.

 

[tincan]

In the scene in Dark Knight Rises where they bring Commissioner Gordon into Bane's lair, do all the guys that work for Bane have their own place to live? They showed Bane had a bed but what about everyone else?

 

[The Joker]

In the scene in Dark Knight Rises where they bring Commissioner Gordon into Bane's lair, do all the guys that work for Bane have their own place to live? They showed Bane had a bed but what about everyone else?

They probably all take turns sleeping with Bane

 

[Gothamsknight]

It's not weird! It's honestly one of the most emotional endings to a trilogy I can think of. Probably even more than Luke seeing the Force ghosts for me. It's up there however you want to slice it.

The way that moment is executed though is chef's kiss. When Zimmer's percussion kicks in, I just remember being like "Don't you f***ing cut away Nolan!" and then it cut to Bruce and Selina, I melted into my seat and it was everything. A moment I'll always treasure.

Agreed! It's just a perfect ending, man. I mean it feels so final as if he finally accomplished what he sent out to do, and now he's at peace. I know people don't like the idea of Bruce retiring, but this was literally perfect.

 

[tincan]

It was stupid that Bruce Wayne died and didn't die. They gave us the experience of Bruce Wayne dying, while surviving and getting to live his life the way he wanted to. It should have been one or the other.

 

[Filmfreak]

I completely disagree. That was my ideal ending since before the movie was even out. It makes perfect sense, it was consistent to Batman being a symbol and Bruce's journey of finding peace and finally moving on with his life. It was extremely cathartic and very emotional if you're invested in the character.

 

[Rick190293]

Never was a fan of main hero dying at the end, yes it's beautiful but isn't too sad? We cheered for him for three movies and they finally gave him a happy ending. I think Baleman deserves haha.

 

[henzINNIT]

I would have been happier with the ending if the set-up was less contrived. Bruce escaping that explosion defies logic but I could roll with it. The deceptive editing for the sake of a twist felt cheap. Pretty harsh to Alfred too, again for the sake of the twist. But also, I don't really believe he's leaving Gotham in a good state. Things seemed much worse than at the start of the movie. Hard to feel the catharsis when it seems like Bruce has worked through his issues but it hasn't actually coincided with fixing Gotham.

 

[Awest66]

I would have been happier with the ending if the set-up was less contrived. Bruce escaping that explosion defies logic but I could roll with it. The deceptive editing for the sake of a twist felt cheap. Pretty harsh to Alfred too, again for the sake of the twist. But also, I don't really believe he's leaving Gotham in a good state. Things seemed much worse than at the start of the movie. Hard to feel the catharsis when it seems like Bruce has worked through his issues but it hasn't actually coincided with fixing Gotham.

I think the point is that Gotham has to rebuild itself without Batman's help but inspired by his example.

 

[Matt.S99]

I’m glad some people are recognizing the good of this film. I never understood the hate. Yes, it’s the weakest of the three, but overall it’s a very strong trilogy.

I am in the camp that prefer The Batman, but that’s not bashing the Nolan films. Overall, they’re fantastic. There are some things I don’t like about them, but they’re still great films.

I still wish Hathaway was given a larger role or another chance to play Selina. She was brilliant and incredibly underrated.

The Nolan Batman films will always hold a special place in the Batman mythos and in the history of film.

 

[BatLobster]

Ram V, Rafael Albuquerque, Dave Stewart On A Dark Knight Comic?

So this is kind of interesting...I've mentioned being curious about someone doing what they've done with comics versions of the 60s series and Burtonverse for the Nolanverse...could be that maybe something like that is in the works. Looks like we'll find out soon.

 

[Gothamsknight]

Ram V, Rafael Albuquerque, Dave Stewart On A Dark Knight Comic?

So this is kind of interesting...I've mentioned being curious about someone doing what they've done with comics versions of the 60s series and Burtonverse for the Nolanverse...could be that maybe something like that is in the works. Looks like we'll find out soon.

 

[Brother Jack]

I wonder if they'd need Nolan's blessing to do that.

 

[BatLobster]

I wonder if they'd need Nolan's blessing to do that.

I honestly don't think so. Doubt they needed Burton's approval to do their 89 series. Nolan obviously doesn't own his versions of the characters, though I wonder if there was any sort of contractual thing he locked in. I'd like to think he'd take a "whatever, knock yourselves out" attitude towards it.

It's not like this (hypothetically) would be stating it as official canon of the movies though, it'd just be one artistic interpretation of that particular continuity. Seems significantly different to me than if they actually tried to make a live action follow up film in that universe.

I just would be curious if they'd take the approach of trying to fill in stories between the movies or actually tell something after TDKR. Mind you, no idea if this is actually happening lol. But hard to interpret the tweet any other way.

 

[Rick190293]

That's... TDKT symbol

Please be true.

 

[Matt.S99]

I hope so! If that is indeed what it is, I’m interested to see what Blake is doing. Did he become Batman or another character entirely? ( Nightwing)

also interested to see what Bruce and Selina are up to

 

[Blade Hoarder]

So, it’s been over a month since the Batman has been out. It will on the Maxipad soon. I mean, I really liked it the first time I saw it, but looking back, it’s not very memorable is it. The movie hasn’t stayed with me. It’s a solid film. Nothing really fundamentally wrong with it. But at the end of the day, it’s just a sleeker and sexier version of the Nolan films. It feels like a movie that should’ve come out in 2008. It feels quaint.

 

[Gothamsknight]

So, it’s been over a month since the Batman has been out. It will on the Maxipad soon. I mean, I really liked it the first time I saw it, but looking back, it’s not very memorable is it. The movie hasn’t stayed with me. It’s a solid film. Nothing really fundamentally wrong with it. But at the end of the day, it’s just a sleeker and sexier version of the Nolan films. It feels like a movie that should’ve come out in 2008. It feels quaint.

I loved The Batman, but I do think that it kind of left me pretty quickly and didn't even come close to hitting me as hard as Batman Begins did when that came out. I've come to the conclusion that TDK trilogy will never be matched or topped for me. I still pre ordered the 4k steelbook for The Batman though cause I was a fan of the film, but overall, I don't really know what the films legacy will be for me. It's a gorgeous movie, and was told very well, but it all feels like it touched on themes that were done before. I wonder if it's just the state of the genre or if it's because I truly have seen everything I wanted to from comic book movies, and most of it is in the past. Don't get me wrong, I'm super excited for Doctor Strange and to see Raimi back in the genre is really exciting in and of itself considering the Nolan films and Raimi films are my 2 biggest comic book trilogies, but outside of that, there's not much that I think can really "shake me to my core" anymore with these movies. Of course I'll be here for future Reeves Batman movies, but it is what it is. People can say it's nostalgia, but I think it's more than that.

 

[BatLobster]

I loved The Batman, but I do think that it kind of left me pretty quickly and didn't even come close to hitting me as hard as Batman Begins did when that came out. I've come to the conclusion that TDK trilogy will never be matched or topped for me. I still pre ordered the 4k steelbook for The Batman though cause I was a fan of the film, but overall, I don't really know what the films legacy will be for me. It's a gorgeous movie, and was told very well, but it all feels like it touched on themes that were done before. I wonder if it's just the state of the genre or if it's because I truly have seen everything I wanted to from comic book movies, and most of it is in the past. Don't get me wrong, I'm super excited for Doctor Strange and to see Raimi back in the genre is really exciting in and of itself considering the Nolan films and Raimi films are my 2 biggest comic book trilogies, but outside of that, there's not much that I think can really "shake me to my core" anymore with these movies. Of course I'll be here for future Reeves Batman movies, but it is what it is. People can say it's nostalgia, but I think it's more than that.

I hear you. I think the genre just doesn't move me the way it used to. I'm just at a different point in life where I think it's healthier not to place so much importance and weight on superheroes, whether it's the MCU stuff or even my favorite with Batman. That's the real truth of it. I think it's a combo of the state of fandom, being a bit older, feeling fulfilled with the movies that were formative for me in the genre.

I still love Batman, I love the character's history, I love my memories with it-- both childhood and adult, and I love how Batman continues to be reinterpreted by different talented people each generation. I definitely still enjoy it and I will totally be there opening night for The Batman 2. But I think it's just healthier to acknowledge where I'm at with it vs. trying to convince myself that this is 2005 or 2008 all over again and my life is changed, etc. It's not really like that this time for me, and that's with me still thinking that the movie is incredibly well-made across the board.

 

[Blade Hoarder]

I think it’s a combination of the back to basics approach and the lack of anything truly unique, making it basically a greatest hits version of the character. Even if it’s super well made. There is a natural bottleneck there.

I hate to admit it. But the snyder bros were actually right. Batman existing in a fantastical world with other superheroes and supervillains was the better next step for the character post Nolan. Too bad the execution was so botched by Snyder.

I think the genre has now ascended to a much nerdier and more out there paradigm. Look at the two movies The Batman is sandwiched between. No Way Home and the Multiverse of Madness. The Batman feels like a relic next to them.

 

[Blade Hoarder]

Who else thinks Rises has the best cinematography of the trilogy? It was able to combine the romanticism of Batman Begins and the wide scale urban photography of TDK while adding its own unique touches. A gorgeous looking movie.

too bad it came out the same year as Skyfall. Wally Pfister went out with a bang.

 

[BatLobster]

Who else thinks Rises has the best cinematography of the trilogy? It was able to combine the romanticism of Batman Begins and the wide scale urban photography of TDK while adding its own unique touches. A gorgeous looking movie.

too bad it came out the same year as Skyfall. Wally Pfister went out with a bang.

Yup. I 100% feel that way as well. The way it's able to visually bridge the gap between BB and TDK is really satisfying for me and it just looks stunning. I think Wally seems like a happy camper doing commerical work and getting more time with his family and stuff but I do miss seeing his cinematography in movies. He has such a great eye for understated beauty.

 

[Blade Hoarder]

I 100 percent think he would’ve made Tenet look better than Hoytema. Don’t get me wrong, he was perfect for Dunkirk. But something about Nolan and fantasy/pulp needs Pfister.