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I don't play games and haven't since Sega Genesis was giving way to the original Playstation. So I don't understand these modern game systems and how it all works. That said, I just bought my daughters an Xbox One and I want to break it with a sledgehammer already. After taking a good two hours just trying to figure out how to get the stupid thing working, she puts in the first game she wants to play which is Elder Scrolls Online and it's been installing or updating or whatever ever since. So here we are at almost 11pm on Christmas night and she STILL can't play a dang thing. It's around 84% now and moving at a freaking snail's pace.

I realized after we put it in that it's a very long install for that game, but she's in tears because she had other games she wanted to play and has been stuck all day on this idiotic install. Can she just take out the stupid disk and play other things and come back to it? Will that mess up the install? Does it even need the disk any more?

Sorry, I just don't understand these stupid game systems and it's about ruined Christmas day for them (first world problems, I know, but seeing my girls' Christmas morning excitement end in tears and me being too stupid to figure this crap out to help them is grating). I'm hoping they could at least play SOMETHING before going to bed in a couple hours.

I feel your pain ( and your daughter's ). :(

but sadly, that is the nature of the current generation of consoles and their mandatory installations/updates. Gone are the days where you can simply stick in a game disc or cartridge and start playing right away.

And of the 2 current consoles, X1 and PS4, the X1 is a bit "worse" in terms of the update/install process.

When you buy physical games, there are 2 parts to the install process. First, the game installs itself to the console's hard drive. Once it reaches a certain point, the game is usually "ready to play" while the rest of the game continues to install in the process. On the PS4, ready to play is usually achieved in less than a minute ( at the beginning it used to take about 2-4 minutes ). On the X1, it usually takes about 5-10 minutes before it hits that point.

However, besides the install, the game also has to download the first update/patch and that is usually what takes the longest to download, especially if the update patch is large. On the PS4, the process is smoother, because it treats the initial install and the patch update as separate processes that don't interfere with each other.

On the X1, I think it will try to download the update first before trying to install the game, and that can prolong the process. There are a few "tricks" that can speed up the process somewhat:

1. When you first insert the disc to install, it will ask if you want to download the update for the game. Say NO. Doing that forces the X1 to just install the game first, which depending on the game can still take 30-40 minutes or longer. Then, once you start the game, it will notify you that there's an update and ask you to install it. Installing the update itself can still take several hours depending on the size of the update.

2. Also, I believe the X1 installs/updates a bit faster if you put the console into rest/sleep mode using Instant On. So, in the Settings, if you choose Instant On ( instead of Energy Saving mode ) and check the box that says "Keep my games, app, and consoles updated," and then turn the console off, it will go into basically sleep/rest mode. Some say that can install updates faster, since it is devoting its resources to that.

"Online" games like Elder Scrolls Online typically take longer to install no matter what. And to answer your other questions.

1. Since you bought the physical game, yes, you would still need to use the disc everytime you want to play the game.

2. Technically, once you've got the install/update process going, you could stick another game in the console. It would then start the install/update process for that game.

The problem with the X1 is that I believe it can't "multitask" when it comes to installing the updates ( don't know if that's changed in recent console updates ). So, when you insert the the 2nd game disc, it may pause the first install/update and then switch to the 2nd game.

Of course, if the 2nd game is a smaller install or has a smaller update file, then technically you could get that game installed faster than the first so you can start playing that 2nd game while the first continues to update/install.

So, alas, if all of this sounds like a hassle, it's because it is. But that's just the nature of the current consoles and the X1 in particular.
 
Personally, I'll stick to board games :(

But thanks for the info. Much appreciated.
 
There's teething problems with any modern tech product due to internet and update issues and lots of moving parts. Hardly anything is plug and play these days. I bought an iPhone 7 recently but have been using my old phone for the last month as I can't be bothered to learn it. With the X1 as it is today, as long as you don't have desert internet like X-Knight lol, and you're willing to check with Xbox Support and your ISP for any issues the process isn't that bad. I downloaded and reinstalled my entire digital library (about 2.2TB and more than 200 games) over 24 hours a couple of weeks ago and it was straightforward enough that even my hard drive breaking wouldn't be much of an issue as it would just take another 24 hours to get everything back.
 
Personally, I'll stick to board games :(

But thanks for the info. Much appreciated.

sure. no problem.

besides Elder Scrolls Online, what other games did you get for your daughter?

I think you had the misfortune of choosing ESO as your first game to install since those type of games generally take much longer to install due to their Online nature.

There's teething problems with any modern tech product due to internet and update issues and lots of moving parts. Hardly anything is plug and play these days. I bought an iPhone 7 recently but have been using my old phone for the last month as I can't be bothered to learn it. With the X1 as it is today, as long as you don't have desert internet like X-Knight lol, and you're willing to check with Xbox Support and your ISP for any issues the process isn't that bad. I downloaded and reinstalled my entire digital library (about 2.2TB and more than 200 games) over 24 hours a couple of weeks ago and it was straightforward enough that even my hard drive breaking wouldn't be much of an issue as it would just take another 24 hours to get everything back.

that is true. Internet speeds do play a part.

but I'm also comparing my experience with the X1 and the PS4, both of which are on the same network and run on the same internet speed. And even though the X1 has made improvements recently, the PS4 continues to be a smoother/somewhat faster experience when it comes to downloading and installing.

speaking of internet speeds, I was able to bump my speed back up to 12mps, so I'm not totally in the internet desert. :o
 
With your old speed being close to zero natural second-to-second fluctuation in the speed can see it drop more often which is what can cause issues. I used to have very slow internet when I first started playing online and used to get kicked out of long Gears 2 Horde matches all the time (even though it would be fine for an hour or 2, annoyingly always getting kicked before the match finished). If your 100MB/s drops to 30MB/s you won't notice any difference even when streaming something in 4K, which gives the false appearance of stability even if the connection speed is fluctuating much more than a slower 'more stable' internet which is nearer the minimum acceptable level for any particular process to continue unhindered.
 
sure. no problem.

besides Elder Scrolls Online, what other games did you get for your daughter?

For my younger daughter we got Shadows of Morder and Zoo Tycoon. For my older daughter we got Skyrim Special Edition and Fall Out 4. And then the system came with Gears of War 4.
 
yeah, well, hopefully my networking problems have been fixed after the recent tech visit.

I think for my needs, 12mbs is fine. I really don't want to switch ISPs, though if the problem persists I may have to.

As for the X1 S, I'm not sure if the main culprit was my own networking problems, the S, or a combo of both. I have read some other accounts about wonky network connection problems with the S, so maybe I'm not alone in that regards.

At this point, I'll just wait for the more powerful Scorpio if I want to get back with Xbox.
 
For my younger daughter we got Shadows of Morder and Zoo Tycoon. For my older daughter we got Skyrim Special Edition and Fall Out 4. And then the system came with Gears of War 4.

ah, good choices.

Aside from the digital Gears 4 ( I'm assuming your console came with the digital code for the game ), those other games should NOT take as long to install/update as ESO.

hope your daughters can finally enjoy the Xbox......lol.
 
For my younger daughter we got Shadows of Morder and Zoo Tycoon. For my older daughter we got Skyrim Special Edition and Fall Out 4. And then the system came with Gears of War 4.
I really want to play Zoo Tycoon!
 
So... I've bought and used an Xbox One the last few months... I love it. I've always been more into the Xbox's.

It was bundled with digital editions of Gears of War: Ultimate Edition and a Forza... I'm not a big racing fan, but I'm actually playing it and haven't really touched GoW. I have Red Dead Redemption and Bully, my 360 favorites...

Minus Red Dead, I think I'll be going digital, I just happened to have the game handy.

I haven't had any worries yet, I remember my first 360 spent a few months going back and forth for repairs... That was my biggest worry when I bought the One, some of the issues I faced with my 360 but I haven't faced anything yet.

I think so far, the digital games I've downloaded, GoW was the only lengthy... a few hours... download.

I was able to reinstall a few arcade games to my account/console, and a few are gone from eh store, is there a reason, most likely licensing I'd take it, that X-Men and The Simpsons arcade, are no longer available?

Any game recommendations?
 
Congrats!!

I've heard a few other people also say they weren't fans of racing games but were converted by FH3.

I'm not 100% digital yet, but after finding my hard drive wire I'm very much getting back on board. Will probably be all digital in the not too far future. If prices of newer titles were less then I'd be 100% now.
 
So... I've bought and used an Xbox One the last few months... I love it. I've always been more into the Xbox's.

It was bundled with digital editions of Gears of War: Ultimate Edition and a Forza... I'm not a big racing fan, but I'm actually playing it and haven't really touched GoW. I have Red Dead Redemption and Bully, my 360 favorites...

Minus Red Dead, I think I'll be going digital, I just happened to have the game handy.

I haven't had any worries yet, I remember my first 360 spent a few months going back and forth for repairs... That was my biggest worry when I bought the One, some of the issues I faced with my 360 but I haven't faced anything yet.

I think so far, the digital games I've downloaded, GoW was the only lengthy... a few hours... download.

I was able to reinstall a few arcade games to my account/console, and a few are gone from eh store, is there a reason, most likely licensing I'd take it, that X-Men and The Simpsons arcade, are no longer available?

Any game recommendations?

Elder scrolls
 
Bad Company 2 and Battlefield 3 are now backward compatible! Would love it if people started playing BFBC2 again!
 
I just saw Dragon Age Origins added to the BC list!! :woot:

then I look at my shelf and see I have no Xbox 1. :csad:

the gaming gods sure are cruel. :o
 
I almost wish I had an Xbone just so I could play some BC2.
 
Elder scrolls

Thanks!


That's on my to-play list... been on my list for ages. A particular recommendation? Skyrim's been on my to-play list for ages and maybe now I'll get to it. I've done some quick research and saw something titled Tamriel Unlimited. Oblivion... I'm probably the least familiar with Elder Scrolls lore wise and such, so I don't know where to start.

I'm not a big Final Fantasy fan... but I'm tempted to pick up XV.
 
Tamriel Unlimited is the MMO. Skyrim is the fifth main game in the series.

Aside from being set in the same world, they're all pretty self-contained. It doesn't matter where you start.
 
cough......Scalebound........cough.......
 
State of Decay 2 is one game that I'm really looking forward to. That, alone, is why
I don't get rid of my XBox One - the exclusives. I don't care much for the interface and hardware, in comparison to the PS4.
 
Finally! Ghostbusters is BC!

:woot:

PS if anybody has been wanting to get a One S (and why don't you have one yet?) different stores has a good deal on a Halo Wars bundle:

Xbox One S 2TB with Halo Wars Ultimate Edition and Halo Wars 2 with the season passes for 350. just to have a 2TB One S for less than 400 is cool but 2 full games wow it comes out on the 17th.
 
:woot:

PS if anybody has been wanting to get a One S (and why don't you have one yet?) different stores has a good deal on a Halo Wars bundle:

Xbox One S 2TB with Halo Wars Ultimate Edition and Halo Wars 2 with the season passes for 350. just to have a 2TB One S for less than 400 is cool but 2 full games wow it comes out on the 17th.

what stores are offering that 2TB deal??
 
The Scorpio is coming out this year. Might as well wait for it.
 
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