Thor expected to be "biggest" Marvel Studios film to date!

[Advanced Dark]

http://blueskydisney.blogspot.com/2008/03/unfinished-business-5-best-scripts.html

Hope Marvel reads this stuff.

 

[kedrell]

So what's happening with the film? Last I heard we had a director and a script, then the writer's strike happened but that's over now. Is Marvel waiting to see what kind of returns their gonna make on IM & TIH before the go ahead with this or what?

 

[Advanced Dark]

Screen Actors Guild (SAG) strike. No big film will go into production now if they can't wrap before end of June so they're all on hold. It's not something only affecting Thor.

Regarding the script...we're all waiting to hear if the adjusted it to fit a 180m budget or not.

 

[Devil]

Well, they can use the Donald Blake's plot to adjusted (and reduced) the budget...

 

[Advanced Dark]

No please no. The script is fine.

 

[Blader5489]

No please no. The script is fine.

If it costs $300 million to make, then it's certainly not fine.

I agree with Devil--the segment spent on Thor learning humility and all that can be done on Earth, as Donald Blake, rather than with vikings or whatever.

 

[Bubonic]

I just wonder if we're getting a british or american an cast and a british or american narrative style.

Will Simon Pegg be in it?

And will it be as graphic as Shaun Of The Dead and Hot Fuzz?

Gotta find the Ant-Man thread and post in there for that much info!

You're not getting it. The point is it would be a waste not to use your resources as a company to make a profit. Daredevil, Ghost Rider, and F4 all made a profit and enough people liked them (no matter how many fanboys hated them) for the effort to have been worth it. So it doesn't matter what films YOU or I like...it matters if they can make money.

We're talking about wasted content here. It pays you no dividends to sit on something when someone is willing to pay you to use it.

I know it always is about the bottom line, but for franchising reasons isn't it logical it would be more profitable if they made as excellent of movies as they could each time?

FF did pretty good, but if the first FF was something remarkable, they'd of drawn in twice as much with the sequel.

These business people cash in on fun recognizable characters and don't put much love into the product, reminds me of crap like the slasher movie franchises that know they'll make a certain amount regardless of how bad a film will be.

Hopefully Marvel is looking past the bottom line, and into making really special movies. Timeless movies.

If it costs $300 million to make, then it's certainly not fine.

I agree with Devil--the segment spent on Thor learning humility and all that can be done on Earth, as Donald Blake, rather than with vikings or whatever.

Ok, $300 is in excess, but if they cash in big on IM and TIH, and they know that Thor will be an amazing film, can't they gamble at least $250 million? If it's truly as epic as it is made out to be, I'm sure it would triple its money before it even came down to merchandising, games, and the lot of it.

 

[Nightmare]

cant wait for thor, the only tv series i remember him from is That 80s movie with the hulk.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Gotta find the Ant-Man thread and post in there for that much info!



I know it always is about the bottom line, but for franchising reasons isn't it logical it would be more profitable if they made as excellent of movies as they could each time?

FF did pretty good, but if the first FF was something remarkable, they'd of drawn in twice as much with the sequel.

These business people cash in on fun recognizable characters and don't put much love into the product, reminds me of crap like the slasher movie franchises that know they'll make a certain amount regardless of how bad a film will be.

Hopefully Marvel is looking past the bottom line, and into making really special movies. Timeless movies.



Ok, $300 is in excess, but if they cash in big on IM and TIH, and they know that Thor will be an amazing film, can't they gamble at least $250 million? If it's truly as epic as it is made out to be, I'm sure it would triple its money before it even came down to merchandising, games, and the lot of it.

I agree but Fox had no confidence in FF to give it a 200 m budget. If they had done that and hired a director everyone really wanted and the right cast, and made The Thing in CGI we'd be talking X3 #'s.

 

[Devil]

A big question.
If they not used the Donald Blake's plot and the Earth segment on the film...How hell do they use him in an Avengers movie????

 

[Vartha]

It does take place on Earth too, but, it takes place in the past. We're not sure how they plan on bringing Thor into the future tho.

 

[Rust]

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36078 says Vaughn is more than likely doing KICK-ASS before THOR.

 

[Wolfman]

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36078 says Vaughn is more than likely doing KICK-ASS before THOR.

Fck!

 

[odiin]

A big question.
If they not used the Donald Blake's plot and the Earth segment on the film...How hell do they use him in an Avengers movie????

By just putting him there? Stuff usually happens BETWEEN movies, you know, hell even between scenes. The Thor movie would take place in the past, and Avengers would be in the future with Thor having already came to earth. That's pretty obvious.

Though, I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I've always HATED that Shazam aspect of the character and hope that if and when the Avengers film comes out, Thor will be handled like Ultimate Thor in the sense that he is ALWAYS Thor and the people of Earth just think he's some nut case with a hammer claiming to be "The god of thunder."

 

[Rust]

Fck!

Yep.. Kiss THOR goodbye for now?

 

[odiin]

I should point out, before everyone gets too upset, that no evidence was shown that proves that kick-ass is being made before Thor. He's just saying that it "looks like" it will, but consider where both films are at this point:

Thor already has a completed script that has received nothing but praise from the lucky few (read: asshats) who have been blessed enough to read it (read: I hate you guys, seriously). Right now they are, presumably weighing out their options whether to get Thor or Ant-Man out first, but seeing as how it looks like Edgar Wright is busy with Scott Pilgrim, their decision is sort of made for them. There is, of course, still the issue of the budget which they needed to cut down, but since that was first reported months ago, I'm sure they've made some progress into that as well.

Now for Kick-ass, this project was JUST announced (not even by an official source, mind you). The script is currently being worked upon, and the comic it is being based upon is only in its second issue.

Just based on what we know (which isn't a lot, admittedly) it would seem Thor still has a fair shot of being put out first.

 

[Rust]

I can't imagine why they would greenlight another Mark Millar-story either before having seen the response to Wanted. But then again, maybe Vaughn wants a break from fantasy.

Someone better soon set some records straight.

 

[chiefchirpa]

Ok now I need to see CAPTAIN AMERICA.

Personally, I don't accept Ant Man for the monolithic Marvel movie in 2009. Thor fine, Namor fine, Dr. Strange fine, Panther fine. But not Ant Man.

 

[Rust]

No thanx, hehe... I never got what that guy was all about. Too much stars and stripes for me or is there anything else to it?

 

[odiin]

We're NOT getting Captain America in 2009, we're not. We're not getting Namor, we're not getting Dr. Strange, we're not getting Black Panther, we're just NOT. The only two films even near ready are Thor and Ant-Man. There is no way in HELL they're going to get a script done, get an actor signed on, cast all the characters and start shooting for a summer 2009 release, it's not happening. If they can't get Thor ready, then Ant-Man is the only choice, and don't say "Well then I would rather nothing" just because you don't like the character, you don't have to watch the movie! So stop complaining.

 

[chiefchirpa]

The difference between Thor and Captain America is just Thor has a director, CA does not. That's not a big difference. Script should have been made by now from David Self as it was assigned at the same time as Protosevich script duty. So, not a very far off and Cap should have an easier time of finding an actor.

Cap movie is scheduled near/on July 4th. So a full 2 months after early summer.

 

[chiefchirpa]

No thanx, hehe... I never got what that guy was all about. Too much stars and stripes for me or is there anything else to it?

Captain America is Marvel's resident Boy Scout and one of the better known Marvel characters.

 

[odiin]

No thanx, hehe... I never got what that guy was all about. Too much stars and stripes for me or is there anything else to it?

Captain America is a great character precisely BECAUSE of that aspect, but it goes a little deeper than that. Cap is someone who is literally out of the 40s, and as such he represents certain values in which he is entirely unwavering, regardless of who that may put him at odds with, be it an individual or the very government he is sworn to protect (which has happened on several ocassions). He stands for the values, that he feels, those stars and stripes represent. Much like Superman, only unlike Superman Cap isn't bullet proof, so instead of flying in and saving the day with one hand behind his back, Cap has to struggle with everything he's got to see his vision realized.

 

[Rust]

In that case they should set it in the 40's and perhaps make it a tragic comedy. Then he would seem less campy.
The name and the outfit doesn't exactly help him IMO and he probably won't be very popular outside the US with people who don't know the character.

 

[chiefchirpa]

The US itself is a big market for movie watchers and outside the US people will not have difficulty knowing that this is just a comic movie, not a glorified propaganda true story.

Captain America fights Nazis (who doesn't hate 'em) and comic book terrorists like Hydra or AIM, not Arab or Irish ones. Captain America fights for Humanity ideals, not just American even if he wears a US flag costume.