Thor's box office competition - Part 1

[I SEE SPIDEY]

The pricey 3D tickets always hurt my view of a movie's boxoffice. I understand and respect your opinion but those are just my feelings.

I'm still impressed with Thor's domestic boxoffice numbers but with those ticket prices I'd be more impressed if it were headed for 275 to 300mil, instead of the 195 to 210mil it's headed for.

Seriously I'm not trying to down play it's success like some are I'm just saying that 200mil with 3D means like 170 to 175mil without it. Those are good numbers but not groundbreaking.

Also, a 5th movie in a franchise usually doesn't gross the most, thats a very rare thing indeed. I don't think you are giving Fast Five's boxoffice numbers enough credit. Thor supposedly started out the summer movie season but Fast Five will make more internationally and will sell more tickets domestically. (Thor could win on the money front domestically but it's going to be hard for it to sell as many tickets. It's possible I guess but it doesn't look likely)

Again, Thor is doing fine and I'm not trying to downplay it but it is having help that some other films don't. I've said the exact same thing about other 3D movies and don't see a reason to give Thor special treatment.

*Sigh* I used to have more fun following the boxoffice before 3D came along.

 

[BigThor]

The pricey 3D tickets always hurt my view of a movie's boxoffice. I understand and respect your opinion but those are just my feelings.

I'm still impressed with Thor's domestic boxoffice numbers but with those ticket prices I'd be more impressed if it were headed for 275 to 300mil, instead of the 195 to 210mil it's headed for.

Seriously I'm not trying to down play it's success like some are I'm just saying that 200mil with 3D means like 170 to 175mil without it. Those are good numbers but not groundbreaking.

Again, Thor is doing fine and I'm not trying to downplay it but it is having help that some other films don't. I've said the exact same thing about other 3D movies and don't see a reason to give Thor special treatment.

*Sigh* I used to have more fun following the boxoffice before 3D came along.

Very true, but I think you're putting too much stock in 3D because there are cons to it as well, Thor would've sold quite a bit more tickets if it wasn't for the hefty price of 3D.

3D is very off setting to some, yes it boosts the cost of the ticket but it also lowers the amount of tickets sold.

 

[BigThor]

Also, a 5th movie in a franchise usually doesn't gross the most, thats a very rare thing indeed. I don't think you are giving Fast Five's boxoffice numbers enough credit. Thor supposedly started out the summer movie season but Fast Five will make more internationally and will sell more tickets domestically. (Thor could win on the money front domestically but it's going to be hard for it to sell as many tickets. It's possible I guess but it doesn't look likely)

Well if "Fast and Furious" (4th entry) made more than the previous Fast and Furious movies what makes it so much of a shock that Fast Five, (which is a culmination of the most popular character's in the franchise) any different?

You're right, most films do loose steam by the fifth film but that's still no comparison to an unproven film that doesn't already have a built in fanbase.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

The pricey 3D tickets always hurt my view of a movie's boxoffice. I understand and respect your opinion but those are just my feelings.

I'm still impressed with Thor's domestic boxoffice numbers but with those ticket prices I'd be more impressed if it were headed for 275 to 300mil, instead of the 195 to 210mil it's headed for.

Seriously I'm not trying to down play it's success like some are I'm just saying that 200mil with 3D means like 170 to 175mil without it. Those are good numbers but not groundbreaking.

Also, a 5th movie in a franchise usually doesn't gross the most, thats a very rare thing indeed. I don't think you are giving Fast Five's boxoffice numbers enough credit. Thor supposedly started out the summer movie season but Fast Five will make more internationally and will sell more tickets domestically. (Thor could win on the money front domestically but it's going to be hard for it to sell as many tickets. It's possible I guess but it doesn't look likely)

Again, Thor is doing fine and I'm not trying to downplay it but it is having help that some other films don't. I've said the exact same thing about other 3D movies and don't see a reason to give Thor special treatment.

*Sigh* I used to have more fun following the boxoffice before 3D came along.

Maybe 3D is losing steam. When I went to the midnight showing of Thor the line for the 2D showing was wrapped around the theater while I saw exactly ONE guy walk into the 3D showing.

If that is typical, Thor didn't make as much off 3D as some may think. I believe most are buying 2D tickets.

One important thing about FF and Thor....one of them is about Thor and one of them is FF. Big win for Thor there.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I thought that FF was a way better movie than Thor (and I don't care for the FF series and hated the last movie) so... (FF: 8.5/10 Thor: 6.5/10)

We aren't talking about what we thought of the movies though.

 

[Marvel]

Very true, but I think you're putting too much stock in 3D because there are cons to it as well, Thor would've sold quite a bit more tickets if it wasn't for the hefty price of 3D.

3D is very off setting to some, yes it boosts the cost of the ticket but it also lowers the amount of tickets sold.

That's VERY true. I've been bouncing around the Net since Thor's US release and from hours of research I can safely say that 3D actually hurt the box office. I've seen post after post of peeved off patrons who will not pay to see it in 3D, especially after all the bad visuals being reported. Some theatres are only carrying Thor in 3D. Releasing it in 3D has held down what is already an impressive box office believe it or not.

With the good word of mouth, this may be real good news for DVD and rental numbers. The people that wait will HAVE to see it then.

 

[DieSmiling]

Very true, but I think you're putting too much stock in 3D because there are cons to it as well, Thor would've sold quite a bit more tickets if it wasn't for the hefty price of 3D.

3D is very off setting to some, yes it boosts the cost of the ticket but it also lowers the amount of tickets sold.

Agreed. I know that my ticket to Thor cost $19 for Imax 3D, and had I paid less I'd be much more inclined to see it again.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I thought that FF was a way better movie than Thor (and I don't care for the FF series and hated the last movie) so... (FF: 8.5/10 Thor: 6.5/10)

We aren't talking about what we thought of the movies though.

I can't say how much a disagree with that

The FF films are just...awful.

 

[Rock Sexton]

i can't say how much a disagree with that

The ff films are just...awful.

.... +1

 

[Docker2.0]

Agreed. How can you hate Thor so much but love F4?!

 

[Hoblin]

I can't say how much a disagree with that

The FF films are just...awful.

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[marcvader]

Different strokes, folks

 

[flickchick85]

Also, I think there may be some confusion here based on a couple comments: I'm pretty sure ISS was talking about Fast Five, not Fantastic Four.

Fast Five is both a financial and critical success. There's no denying. Thor is just fine in both those arenas as well, but still, no reason to act like F5 is some kind of F4-like piece of s***.

 

[TheVileOne]

Fast Five has the IMAX boost though.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

Crap, I too mistook FF for F4.

 

[Tony Stark]

I thought that FF was a way better movie than Thor (and I don't care for the FF series and hated the last movie) so... (FF: 8.5/10 Thor: 6.5/10)

We aren't talking about what we thought of the movies though.

Sorry but I thought Fast 5 was like a 3/10. It was OK, until the stupid pulling the safe behind the cars scene. I'm all for suspension of disbelief, but that was just f-ing laughable. I was literally laughing because of how completely stupid it was.

So am I saying a movie about a guy from another planet who has a magic hammer is more believable than guys with a couple of Dodge Chargers pulling a 10 ton safe? Yeah I guess I am.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

How can a movie be okay with a rating of 3/10?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Yes but thats not nearly as helpful as the 3D one. Almost all big blockbusters have an Imax boost but it doesn't skew the numbers nearly as much as 3D does and thats a fact. I'm not discounting the IMAX thing either as it does help but FF is still selling more tickets than Thor at the end of the day.

Did someone actually think I was talking above Fast and Furious 4? Because I hated that movie. Also, I don't mind it if you don't like Fast Five but it is a well liked movie, thats a hit with both critics and fans alike as FlickChick stated. You can't play up Thor's good reviews and boxoffice but dismiss Fast Five's.

I know some think that I mentioned the 3D boost to downplay it's success because I didn't love the movie but thats not true, I didn't love Avatar either and I've never called it anything less than a huge smash, 3D tickets or no. The highest grossing movie ever.

Thor is a hit but it still has the advantage (or dis-advantage? You decide) of 3D where something like Fast Five doesn't.

I'm going to be saying these same things about GL and Captain America and anyother 3D added movie rather I love, like or hate the film. It's not personal, it's boxoffice.

I'm comparing the movie's boxoffice the same way I compared Wolverine and Star Trek's boxoffice numbers in 2009. I don't care if you love Thor and hated Fast Five, lets get back to the boxoffice numbers and perhaps what the mean as far as audience reception and all that.

 

[BigThor]

Agreed. I know that my ticket to Thor cost $19 for Imax 3D, and had I paid less I'd be much more inclined to see it again.

I know right (Reynolds voice), I've seen it three times and I watched it in good ol' reliable 2D each time .

As a matter of fact, the weekend Thor came out almost every 2D showing was sold out while the 3D showings weren't full at all. Plus 2D showings were in the largest screening rooms in the theater also and the 3D showing were in the smaller rooms.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm actually leaning towards the 3D tickets hurting the movie's bottom line, atleast in the states it could be.

 

[Tony Stark]

How can a movie be okay with a rating of 3/10?

There were some good parts to the movie, and I can see why people liked it, but the stupid parts of the movie far outweigh the good. Dom saves Rock's life and in return he's going to give him 24 hours and then hunt him down, because that's the way he works? WTF?

Who was it that posted that review that said "it's like Avengers....but for *****ebags." That about hit the nail on the head.

 

[BigThor]

I'm actually leaning towards the 3D tickets hurting the movie's bottom line, atleast in the states it could be.

If you think about it, it really is, I bet Thor would've sold a hell of alot more tickets without the heft price of those 3D tickets.

 

[THOR]

I thought that FF was a way better movie than Thor (and I don't care for the FF series and hated the last movie) so... (FF: 8.5/10 Thor: 6.5/10)

We aren't talking about what we thought of the movies though.

WTF! Thor 6.5 out of 10?? FF 8.5 out of 10??

 

[Tony Stark]

It's very well possible that Thor could have done better without the 3D. I have a feeling with the 2011 box office doing so terrible until the last few weeks, they may do away with 3D if GL and Cap don't do well.

The real litmus test will be Cars 2, if that doesn't do well it's over for 3D. 3D is already on the fritz after the huge lack of sales in 3D TV's, and the miserable sales of the Nintendo 3DS.

 

[BigThor]

WTF! Thor 6.5 out of 10?? FF 8.5 out of 10??

Hey, we don't need any of that, she's pretty cool man it's just different strokes for different folks

I actually liked Fast Five, I'd give it a 7.5 but I think Thor was better hence the 9/10 in my signature.