TMOS Reviews Thread - Non Spoiler Review and Discussion - Part 2

[JOE]

99% don't check RT to decide they decide based on the marketing ads and if it drew them in.

Sir, where are you getting these numbers from?

Rotten Tomatoes isn't just some review site. It happens to be affiliated with bigger companies like Flickster which has an extremely popular smart phone app that people use when deciding showtimes, not to mention buying tickets from. The rating is right beside the title, the rating plays a bigger role than you think, sir.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

My god.



Question: has ANYONE read the reviews?

I ask because most of the negative reviews LIKE a lot of MOS.

So it's a good, watchable film - just not to this taste.


So what does a review mean then, if its positive or negative?


not a damn thing - what I'd give for a Smokey from Friday meme...


If a REALLY polarising film like TASM can get a sequel, so can a film that has already made 2/3rds of its budget back via product placement, before its release. Oh yes, it also has MUCH stronger reviews too...

mad-sci will be going down with this ship and none of you will tell him otherwise.

 

[titansupes]

Come on friend, relax. All that matters in the end is your opinion. And if you don't end up loving it, it is not the end of the world.

I know, it's just... I may need to be held at some point.

Jesus Rollerblading Christ, everybody. I KNOW some of you were here during the Dark Knight Rises debacle. That b*****d dipped below 80% a couple times. I remember it.

Calm down and give this time.

I do vaguely remember that, I kept out of the fray more for that one, but... This is Superman. I can't help myself. I'm invested.

 

[Micromind]

Wow. It's like history repeating. Exactly like what happened to SR.

Not really, SR got decent rating from top critics, the general audience reception was lukewarm.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I know, it's just... I may need to be held at some point.



I do vaguely remember that, I kept out of the fray more for that one, but... This is Superman. I can't help myself. I'm invested.

Well we might need another poster for that.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Not sure what you mean here? If anything, this will go over with the general public and fans far better then SR, which I actually like, simply do to its structure. Even if it is a mediocre film, it is a mediocre film with Superman punching people in the face.

I know people that have a bad taste from SR and basically had no interest in a new Superman movie because of that. I've had to convince them that this movie is nothing like SR since they were so disappointed in it. I'm sure there are plenty of people like that all over. This movie has a hill to climb thanks to SR.

 

[DanSupKP37]

Wow. It's like history repeating. Exactly like what happened to SR.

If the Box Office is disappointing.

Yes..

 

[Superwoman Prime]

mad-sci will be going down with this ship and none of you will tell him otherwise.

Mad-sci will go down with this ship. And he won't put his hands up and surrender. There will be no white flag above his door. He's in love. And always will be.

 

[Sharkboy]

I think what some people need to realise is that this film is pretty much a remake of a very well loved film, i know some people here like to act as if we've never had a good superman film before (which is the most ridiculous thing ever said by anyone ever) so there will always be people who look on this film with a certain sense of cynicism and disdain, especially to the newer tonal differences shaking their more traditionalist views of what superman should be in their mind. Batman Begins faced the same thing but it also had the advantage of being an untold story as well.

Bottom line is, if you remake a well loved iconic film prepare to get a lot of hate...but I'm sure this film will end up in the 80's.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I know people that have a bad taste from SR and basically had no interest in a new Superman movie because of that. I've had to convince them that this movie is nothing like SR since they were so disappointed in it. I'm sure there are plenty of people like that all over. This movie has a hill to climb thanks to SR.

And if people can't separate the two, that is their thing. Perhaps they will end up missing out on something they would have loved to have seen on the big screen. Just like Batman Begins.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

I think what some people need to realise is that this film is pretty much a remake of a very well loved film, i know some people here like to act as if we've never had a good superman film before (which is the most ridiculous thing ever said by anyone ever) so there will always be people who look on this film with a certain sense of cynicism and disdain, especially to the newer tonal differences shaking their more traditionalist views of what superman should be in their mind. Batman Begins faced the same thing but it also had the advantage of being an untold story as well.

Bottom line is, if you remake a well loved iconic film prepare to get a lot of hate...but I'm sure this film will end up in the 80's.

What's irritating is that a lot of the RT "negative" reviews aren't actually negative but they still make the tomatometer look low.

 

[DanSupKP37]

Sir, where are you getting these numbers from?

Rotten Tomatoes isn't just some review site. It happens to be affiliated with bigger companies like Flickster which has an extremely popular smart phone app that people use when deciding showtimes, not to mention buying tickets from. The rating is right beside the title, the rating plays a bigger role than you think, sir.

Fan boys obsess the gen public for the most part sees an ad campaign on TV thinks it looks good or bad and decides from there.. RT is not going to sell someone on a film one way or another unless the score is terrible IMO.. Did any of the TF movies get good reviews?? Well marketed..

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Mad-sci will go down with this ship. And he won't put his hands up and surrender. There will be no white flag above his door. He's in love. And always will be.

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[Micromind]

In other news, Worlds War Z is at 80 %, it seems like critics were more impressed with WW Z than with MOS (at 71 % now).

 

[Joker594]

I do vaguely remember that, I kept out of the fray more for that one, but... This is Superman. I can't help myself. I'm invested.

Same here. This is the fate of (arguably) one of literature's most well-known characters.

But if this thing gets somewhere between 75-80 (which it probably will, in all likelihood), I'm sure we'll be satisfied.

And either way it's still gonna' get a sequel. Look at Thor (77%), Captain America: The First Avenger (79%), and The Amazing Spider-Man (73%). At this juncture, RottenTomatoes scores rarely affect audience turnout for comic book films.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I think what some people need to realise is that this film is pretty much a remake of a very well loved film, i know some people here like to act as if we've never had a good superman film before (which is the most ridiculous thing ever said by anyone ever) so there will always be people who look on this film with a certain sense of cynicism and disdain, especially to the newer tonal differences shaking their more traditionalist views of what superman should be in their mind. Batman Begins faced the same thing but it also had the advantage of being an untold story as well.

Bottom line is, if you remake a well loved iconic film prepare to get a lot of hate...but I'm sure this film will end up in the 80's.

Wrong. As has been stated incorrectly for 3 years on here, it is nothing like STM or Superman II.

What's irritating is that a lot of the RT "negative" reviews aren't actually negative but they still make the tomatometer look low.

People need to learn how the system works. That is not what is happening.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

In other news, Worlds War Z is at 80 %, it seems like critics were more impressed with WW Z than with MOS (at 71 % now).

World War Z has an average score of 6.1
A lot of critics gave it 3/5 but with MOS the score is 7.5, some of the negativity was around 3/5, yet it has a lower score.

 

[Visualiza]

Yes, I know he didn't pitch the original idea.. but the Moment he was made director, he can, if he chooses try to get any part of any script re-written... if it doesn't jive with him...

Just like an Architect wouldn't just draw a building anyway their owners want.. they'll have to make sure it won't collapse...

The buck always stop at the director.. that's what DIRECTOR means.. he's the GUY in charge... if he's not, then he's got no business being a director... he'll just be a 'yes man'... the best directors will have scripts re-written, and re-written until their are satisfied...

Not quite. The producer is the one who is ultimately in charge of a film; they're involved with a project from every single phase until completion, including...you guessed it...appointing a director. Now, some directors have more pull than others, and quite a few of them run their own production companies for this very reason, but if you honestly believe that the director is and always has been the end-all, be-all, then I'm here to tell you that you're sorely mistaken. I suggest you read up on David Fincher's experience with the Alien franchise, but there are countless examples throughout history of frustrated directors who weren't afforded the opportunity to realize their vision for a film. To suggest otherwise is blatant ignorance.

 

[Superwoman Prime]

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I can see some fangirl making an MoS music video with this song.

 

[Sharkboy]

Wrong. As has been stated incorrectly for 3 years on here, it is nothing like STM or Superman II.


People need to learn how the system works. That is not what is happening.

It's a retelling of an origin story, that's enough.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

You're not making any sense, dude.

If you didn't understand my original post, why did you argue with it?

TBH, you seem to have swung your opinion around to agreeing with me... so I guess your intention was just to rile me up? Im just sad I fell for it.

And if the script is weak, how will you know without actually reading the script? It is the director's job to bring the work to life. What if the director fails at that? What if the idea is great, but the script writer fails? What if the script is great but he director doesn't bring it to life? How is that the scripts fault?

Just look at Watchmen for incredible idea, weak script, and director who misses the point.

Bad example. As I mentioned earlier, I love Watchmen. But I know Snyder isn't a perfect director. Just like I know Nolan isn't either, and Goyer isn't a perfect writer.

Look, all I want is for the blame to be shared equally if the film is under par.

And unfortunately, as expected, it looks like some people will be adamently defending Goyer and Nolan, even regarding the parts that they were directly involved in... as though they can do no wrong, and if the script/story is bad it MUST be something Snyder did .

I guess i'll just have to deal with it.

 

[GreenKToo]

I think what some people need to realise is that this film is pretty much a remake of a very well loved film, i know some people here like to act as if we've never had a good superman film before (which is the most ridiculous thing ever said by anyone ever) so there will always be people who look on this film with a certain sense of cynicism and disdain, especially to the newer tonal differences shaking their more traditionalist views of what superman should be in their mind. Batman Begins faced the same thing but it also had the advantage of being an untold story as well.

Bottom line is, if you remake a well loved iconic film prepare to get a lot of hate...but I'm sure this film will end up in the 80's.

Some people cant see the forest for the trees, others cut off their nose despite their face.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Not quite. The producer is the one who is ultimately in charge of a film; they're involved with a project from every single phase until completion, including...you guessed it...appointing a director. Now, some directors have more pull than others, and quite a few of them run their own production companies for this very reason, but if you honestly believe that the director is and always has been the end-all, be-all, then I'm here to tell you that you're sorely mistaken. I suggest you read up on David Fincher's experience with the Alien franchise, but there are countless examples throughout history of frustrated directors who weren't afforded the opportunity to realize their vision for a film. To suggest otherwise is blatant ignorance.

Yeah, let's blame Zack's wife.

 

[Project862006]

Sir, where are you getting these numbers from?

Rotten Tomatoes isn't just some review site. It happens to be affiliated with bigger companies like Flickster which has an extremely popular smart phone app that people use when deciding showtimes, not to mention buying tickets from. The rating is right beside the title, the rating plays a bigger role than you think, sir.

not at all if people are interested they are gonna see it marketing,tv spots,trailers,etc. is what gets people's butts in the seats people look at RT and reviews for films they are not interested in

 

[mace1]

You guys need to focus on you hometown reviews first and critic you trust the most and your own views.
The overall review will end up being strong enough,but focus on what you liked when you see it and your local reviews in local papers.