TMOS Reviews Thread - Non Spoiler Review and Discussion - Part 4

[slimshady247]

Agreed. But some people hate that because they feel Batman would never in a million years retire, he would be beating criminals over the head as an old man with his cane. It's funny how they don't see how much of a sad life that is, being Batman, and I guess they don't want him to ultimately be happy. <shrugs shoulders>

Yeah, that would ironically be ultimately the most depressing ending ever.

 

[macphisto96]

I was hoping this movie was gonna be one of the "Game-changers", unfortunately it seems it's mostly standard fare. By game-changers, I mean

Iron Man
The Dark Knight
The Avengers
The Dark Knight Rises

Iron Man was no game changer. Robert Downey Jr was the gamechanger. Iron Man would never have been the success it was without RDJ and the Marvel films may have been big, but not to the level they were. RDJ is the foundation on which the Marvelverse is laid - and it's a good foundation.

If they had cast someone else then Iron Man may have done okay, but not as well as it did. And the bleed over effect would have been lessened. Avengers would have been a big summer blockbuster - but I'm not sure if it would have even passed a billion without the buildup WITH RDJ at the base.

When you talk about gamechanging casting, you start and finish with RDJ in Iron Man.

 

[JOE]

Oh boy... silliness knows no bounds!

I'm convinced all you do is look for my posts to respond to... Shouldn't you be waiting in line for the movie or something?

 

[Adder]

I was hoping this movie was gonna be one of the "Game-changers", unfortunately it seems it's mostly standard fare. By game-changers, I mean

Iron Man
The Dark Knight
The Avengers
The Dark Knight Rises

um...what do you mean by TDKR being a game changer? I mean, I can guess at why the others on the list can be called that but not TDKR. unless it was a game changer by being a disappointment that changed the rise in quality of that series.

 

[slimshady247]

um...what do you mean by TDKR being a game changer? I mean, I can guess at why the others on the list can be called that but not TDKR. unless it was a game changer by being a disappointment that changed the rise in quality of that series.

You state that as if it's a fact or as if it's the opinion of the majority, which it isn't.

 

[tek]

one could say TDK was not a game changer and Heath Ledger was the game changer. these games can be played forever

 

[slimshady247]

one could say TDK was not a game changer and Heath Ledger was the game changer. these games can be played forever

Yeah, this is getting a little stupid.

 

[tek]

one's gamechanger is one's dissappointment. if u believe , good stuff

 

[DarkSentinel]

Agreed. But some people hate that because they feel Batman would never in a million years retire, he would be beating criminals over the head as an old man with his cane. It's funny how they don't see how much of a sad life that is, being Batman, and I guess they don't want him to ultimately be happy. <shrugs shoulders>

Batman Beyond?

 

[slimshady247]

one's gamechanger is one's dissappointment. if u believe , good stuff

Essentially.

Batman Beyond?

 

[JOE]

Spider-Man was a gamechanger.
The Dark Knight was a gamechanger.
The Avengers was a gamechanger.

 

[slimshady247]

Spider-Man was a gamechanger.
The Dark Knight was a gamechanger.
The Avengers was a gamechanger.

The Avengers was not a game changer, no. The Dark Knight Rises was far more of a game changer than Avengers, though that's not saying much. Anyway, I don't want to get into any wars about which film is better. Can we move on from this topic?

 

[robot]

I'm convinced all you do is look for my posts to respond to... Shouldn't you be waiting in line for the movie or something?

I don't take **** from bullies...

 

[GreenKToo]

you two need to get a room or something lol.

 

[Mjölnir]

The Avengers was not a game changer, no. The Dark Knight Rises was far more of a game changer than Avengers, though that's not saying much. Anyway, I don't want to get into any wars about which film is better. Can we move on from this topic?

So you respond to someone, stating your opinion on the matter and then want to close the topic so no one can disagree with you? (which, for the record, I definitely do) The best way to move away from the topic is to do that, not to initiate more discussion about it.

 

[slimshady247]

So you respond to someone, stating your opinion on the matter and then want to close the topic so no one can disagree with you? (which, for the record, I definitely do) The best way to move away from the topic is to do that, not to initiate more discussion about it.

No, I just wanted to move on from the topic. Whether anyone agrees with me doesn't matter. Hence, I want to move on.

 

[LostSon88]

Agreed. But some people hate that because they feel Batman would never in a million years retire, he would be beating criminals over the head as an old man with his cane. It's funny how they don't see how much of a sad life that is, being Batman, and I guess they don't want him to ultimately be happy. <shrugs shoulders>

They want Bruce to be as miserable as they are.

 

[Sharkboy]

Looks like we have another Hobbit on our hands, low with critics but high with audiences and fans.

EDIT: I do find it quite ironic that it's likely to get a lower score than SR. (the way Jackson's Hobbit got lower than the 1977 animated version)

 

[slimshady247]

Looks like we have another Hobbit on our hands, low with critics but high with audiences and fans.

EDIT: I do find it quite ironic that it's likely to get a lower score than SR.

Well, to be fair, it's not exactly low, it's just quite a bit more mixed than what we were expecting. Though I guess that's probably what you meant.

 

[Sharkboy]

Well, to be fair, it's not exactly low, it's just quite a bit more mixed than what we were expecting. Though I guess that's probably what you meant.

ye ye ye...you know what I mean.

 

[Mr.M]

Iron Man was no game changer. Robert Downey Jr was the gamechanger. Iron Man would never have been the success it was without RDJ and the Marvel films may have been big, but not to the level they were. RDJ is the foundation on which the Marvelverse is laid - and it's a good foundation.

If they had cast someone else then Iron Man may have done okay, but not as well as it did. And the bleed over effect would have been lessened. Avengers would have been a big summer blockbuster - but I'm not sure if it would have even passed a billion without the buildup WITH RDJ at the base.

When you talk about gamechanging casting, you start and finish with RDJ in Iron Man.

Nailed it.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Getting a lower score than SR is virtually a lock at this point. They are both averaging a 7/10 rating though.

 

[slimshady247]

ye ye ye...you know what I mean.

Haha, indeed. I mean, 67% (current RT score) is by no means a bad rating, but this is a little sad.

 

[JOE]

All the positive feedback from people on the hype and twitter etc indicated a much higher rating than what it's getting. That's what's taking people by surprise.

 

[Mr.M]

Looks like we have another Hobbit on our hands, low with critics but high with audiences and fans.

EDIT: I do find it quite ironic that it's likely to get a lower score than SR. (the way Jackson's Hobbit got lower than the 1977 animated version)

Only difference is Hobbit kinda, sorta fizzled at the box office. Only 300 million with 2013 prices and 3D/IMAX sales? Clearly it was a dropoff. Now you could argue the scale did not match the original trilogy. The story isn't as strong in terms of the books. I'd argue it had been 10+ years since LoTR. It should have done Phantom Menace type numbers, and it maintained the same quality of the OT IMO. So I don't see why there was a drop at the box office.