TMOS Reviews Thread - Non Spoiler Review and Discussion - Part 4

[Ozymandias]

I remember back when movies had to earn sequels instead of expecting them to fix the problems of previous ones

Why is it a problem? It's only a problem if you let it bother you so much. The sequel will pick up the story thread.

Is the original Star Wars bad because it failed to show the repercussions of blowing up the Death Star? The only thing that happened afterward was some celebrating and a medal ceremony. Anything of consequence didn't come until Empire Strikes Back.

 

[Doc Samson]

I'm still stoked to see this movie, but I gotta say these RT ratings are very disappointing. Lower than Superman Returns? What?

Seems to me, especially with a character like Superman that already has a movie a lot of people hold in high regard (as do I) that the main complaint is that it isn't fun, or funny, enough. Especially in comparison to that.

There's just some reviewers who feel anything dealing with a comic should by it's very nature be funny & silly or else they'll hate it. It's part of the reason something like IM3 can rate almost an 80 on that site, and I can still feel it's a terrible film. Personally, I've wanted action, BIG action, from MoS since it was announced, and presumably, that's exactly what it delivers.

Just because there's no Christopher Reeve to wink at the camera isn't going to deter me from loving this movie if it's well made, and almost none of those negative reviews lead me to believe that it isn't. They just don't see something like Superman needing to be taken serious, but as child, Superman was serious business to me. And damn it, it still is....

 

[slimshady247]

Why is it a problem? It's only a problem if you let it bother you so much. The sequel will pick up the story thread.

Is the original Star Wars bad because it failed to show the repercussions of blowing up the Death Star? The only thing that happened afterward was some celebrating and a medal ceremony. Anything of consequence didn't come until Empire Strikes Back.

I was about to mention this.

 

[terry78]

I think not referencing the damage is kind of in tune with how Superman stories play out. He does all this **** to beat the villain, using random pieces of Metropolis cityscape to do it and at the end of the day it's all happy go lucky.

 

[king666]

Meanwhile, MOS is sitting at 83/100 on Critics Choice

It was sitting at 88 when I woke up today.

 

[db85usa]

Exactly. End of this one it's all smiles and business as usual. Considering the destruction in this one is exponentially greater than both Avengers and TDKR it was a major detriment to the story telling that the devastation was ignored.

I hope you realize you're in a non spoiler thread.

 

[!Superman!]

You guys need to relax. See this movie for yourselves it is quite amazing. Seriously, f--- The critics! You and the GA are what matters. As far as RT goes, I hear there are a lot of positive reviews yet to come. Some even in 2's and 3's together.

RELAX! It's not the end of the world. It is still early. This should fall at 75%-85% when all is said and done.

do you have inside information ? all this positive reviews are great but how many bad ones are coming in?

if 40 goods ones go up but 50 bad ones it wont help the score...

 

[Mikelus]

Nah, that was forced humor. I mean the subtle bits of levity. Like Bruce being arrested for stealing Wayne merchandise. Those are winks to the audience that alleviate moments of tension.

That's just dumbing things down. If the story you're telling is serious, humor is easily out of place. So, do you prefer campy Superman II and the lame SR?

 

[Poni_Boy]

Is the original Star Wars bad because it failed to show the repercussions of blowing up the Death Star?

You do understand that the Death Star was the bad guy headquarters, right?

Because, yeah, that's the difference

 

[slimshady247]

You do understand that the Death Star was the bad guy headquarters, right?

Because, yeah, that's the difference

He probably means all the people who died in the final assault, who are hilariously ignored.

 

[Ozymandias]

Exactly. End of this one it's all smiles and business as usual. Considering the destruction in this one is exponentially greater than both Avengers and TDKR it was a major detriment to the story telling that the devastation was ignored.

Except it's not all smiles and business as usual.

Spoiler

Unless you think visiting Pa Kent's grave is all smiles. For all we know, the final scene of Clark taking a job at the Daily Planet could be the beginnings of him reporting the devastation and its long-lasting consequences.

 

[mmbrown7L]

That's just dumbing things down. If the story you're telling is serious, humor is easily out of place. So, do you prefer campy Superman II and the lame SR?

I've seen the movie, and I assure you that the humor is not the main problem of the film and why people aren't loving it. It's the structure and characters. I think this review sadly is pretty accurate (minus saying Zod is miscast): http://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...s-overkill-thin-story-ground-latest-superman/

 

[Poni_Boy]

I hope you realize you're in a non spoiler thread.

I was under the impression the trailers and TV spots have shows Metropolis getting pounded. Do they not?

 

[Tanin]

I'm still stoked to see this movie, but I gotta say these RT ratings are very disappointing. Lower than Superman Returns? What?

Superman Returns is a pretty decent drama and deserves the rating it got with critics as they love those. Though it was a bad choice of a Superman movie.

Mon of Steel appears to be a fairly choppy drama action film with some bad acting and some poor character development for some of the side actors. Excellent for fans but not for critics.

 

[Poni_Boy]

So, do you prefer campy Superman II and the lame SR?

Do I prefer them? Yes. Do I think they are great movies? No.

I reviewed this film without comparing it to previous ones. And I felt it doesn't stand up on its own merit.

 

[!Superman!]

Superman Returns is a pretty decent drama and deserves the rating it got with critics as they love those. Though it was a bad choice of a Superman movie.

Mon of Steel appears to be a fairly choppy drama action film with some bad acting and some poor character development for some of the side actors. Excellent for fans but not for critics.

bad acting? by whom?

 

[Tra-El]

This is all firing me up. I'm going into the theater tomorrow with a head held high and remembering these 2 past depressing days and channeling that into my own experience. It's ALL apart of the ride, friends.

It all comes down to tomorrow!

 

[Ozymandias]

He probably means all the people who died in the final assault, who are hilariously ignored.

Thank you, exactly. And not to mention the consequences of becoming a legitimate threat to the Empire and its Sith Lord for an emperor. Destroying the Death Star meant the deaths of many more Rebels to come.

 

[WormyT]

Exactly. End of this one it's all smiles and business as usual. Considering the destruction in this one is exponentially greater than both Avengers and TDKR it was a major detriment to the story telling that the devastation was ignored.

Also, Superman was a bit of a pompous prick in that last scene with the general.
Dude, your horseplay ruined an entire city!

 

[UrNuts2]

You guys need to relax. See this movie for yourselves it is quite amazing. Seriously, f--- The critics! You and the GA are what matters. As far as RT goes, I hear there are a lot of positive reviews yet to come. Some even in 2's and 3's together.

RELAX! It's not the end of the world. It is still early. This should fall at 75%-85% when all is said and done.

i'm just wondering if there's any objective reasons why the RT rating might improve ? someone mentioned the movie blog reviews that still need to filter through for example. Are there any solid grounds to expect a slight overall improvement or is this simply wishful thinking ?

 

[db85usa]

I was under the impression the trailers and TV spots have shows Metropolis getting pounded. Do they not?

They certainly do but they don't delve into details on how the story ends no matter how small so please put spoiler tags for those who have yet to see the movie, my friend. Or you can go to the spoiler review thread, too.

 

[Tanin]

bad acting? by whom?

I wouldn't know... I haven't seen the movie. One person's bad actor is another person's realistic so I have to see movie first.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Except it's not all smiles and business as usual.

Spoiler

Unless you think visiting Pa Kent's grave is all smiles. For all we know, the final scene of Clark taking a job at the Daily Planet could be the beginnings of him reporting the devastation and its long-lasting consequences.

You're just adding your own fan fiction to the story that was presented. I consider that a fruitless endevour. A film like this shouldn't turn to its sequels to address incomplete story details.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

David Edelstein's negative review on RT just got counted twice, because his review was posted on two different sites. He's a top critic too. Wtf? They need to correct that.

What?! How does this get fixed. This movie is hanging by a thread with its fresh rating, can't have errors like this!

 

[danoyse]

Is the original Star Wars bad because it failed to show the repercussions of blowing up the Death Star? The only thing that happened afterward was some celebrating and a medal ceremony. Anything of consequence didn't come until Empire Strikes Back.

Star Wars ended the way it did because they didn't know if there would be a sequel. Lucas had written a bigger story, but there was no guarantee that he would get a trilogy (there was no "Episode IV" in the original release, it was added when it was re-released in 1978).

It ended the way it did so it could stand alone if it had to.