TMOS Reviews Thread - Non Spoiler Review and Discussion - Part 5

[jmc]

You're in Sydney, right?

Yep, expensive as hell.

 

[B]

So I was really getting myself upset about the RT ratings last night, thinking that it meant there was a strong possibility that I wouldn't like the film.

So I decided to do a search on a bunch of my favourite films/films i've really enjoyed just to get a bit of perspective. I feel ALOT better now )

Spoiler

Here are some of the results if you're interested (the ones I find most shocking in bold):

Rubber - 68%
The Iceman - 68%
Shutter Island - 68%
Revolutionary Road - 68%
American Psycho - 67%
Sleepy Hollow - 67%
Lawless - 67%
Watchmen - 64%
Another Earth - 64%
The Goonies - 63%
Blood Diamond - 62%
John dies at the end - 60%
300 - 60%
The Fall - 59%
Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves - 59%
Special (2005) - 57%
Blow - 55%
Blade - 55%
Hesher - 54%
What dreams may come - 54%
Mirrormask - 54%
Seeking a friend for the end of the world - 53%
The Men who stare at goats - 52%
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas - 50%
Olympus has fallen - 47%
The Basketball diaries - 46%
Rules of attraction - 43%
K-pax - 41%
The Bucket list - 40%
Equilibrium - 37%
The Man in the iron mask - 33%
The Bodyguard - 32%Hook - 31%
Kiss the girls - 30%
Machine gun preacher - 29%
Gamer - 29%
Law Abiding Citizen - 25%
Event Horizon - 23%
The Beach - 19%
Drop dead Fred - 13%

There are probably many many more, but I hope this shows how utterly pointless it is trying to judge whether you will like a movie based on critics mass opinions

I said this like 20 times last night when people were all crying & in mass hysteria about Man of Steel not receiving 100% positive reviews on RT.

RT's rating is meaningless, for your standard big blockbuster there are 150-300 pick & choose random selection of movie critics that somehow RT feel are more qualified to judge whether or not a film is good, than I am, the consumer.

I mean if 250 critics gave Man of Steel 50% & then 500,000 users reviewed the film & gave it 90%, which rating is correct? It's all about taste & who has reviewed it, not everybody is going to like & agree with everyone.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

^ I was hoping for it to be a fresh start for the DCU. I might like it, and maybe the audience will, but I'd be reluctant to put Goyer back in the writer's seat. As for Zack, I'm sure he'd create an amazing film if he had a BB quality script. But TBH, I don't think he demands as much from screenplays than Nolan does. If I were WB, I would have Nolan completely overhaul the screenplay, THEN hand it to Zack.

It pains me to say this, but critically, MOS could have benefited from a bad reboot beforehand. Something to put the film in perspective, outside the late Reeve sequels.

 

[Raiden]

It appears that MOS has dipped to 60% on RT.

 

[Gianakin_]

^ I was hoping for it to be a fresh start for the DCU. I might like it, and maybe the audience will, but I'd be reluctant to put Goyer back in the writer's seat. As for Zack, I'm sure he'd create an amazing film if he had a BB quality script. But TBH, I don't think he demands as much from screenplays than Nolan does. If I were WB, I would have Nolan completely overhaul the screenplay, THAN hand it to Zack.

It pains me to say this, but critically, MOS could have benefited from a bad reboot beforehand. Something to put the film in perspective, outside the late Reeve sequels.

Dude, wait till you watch it!

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Yeah, I know.

I think for me it's more of a competative thing... because most other films in the superhero genre have much better ratings

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

[YT]keIvA2wSPZc[/YT] This movie doesn't appear to be for critics.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

I said this like 20 times last night when people were all crying & in mass hysteria about Man of Steel not receiving 100% positive reviews on RT.

RT's rating is meaningless, for your standard big blockbuster there are 150-300 pick & choose random selection of movie critics that somehow RT feel are more qualified to judge whether or not a film is good, than I am, the consumer.

I mean if 250 critics gave Man of Steel 50% & then 500,000 users reviewed the film & gave it 90%, which rating is correct? It's all about taste & who has reviewed it, not everybody is going to like & agree with everyone.

That's wrong. We're all supposed to like and dislike the same things. That's what the internet thingy tells me.

 

[Project862006]

how does snyder's watchmen have a better rt rating lol

while i loved watchmen i can understand why people didn't

mos by all the fans here who have seen it seems like it doesn't deserve the harsh criticism

 

[Jake Cassidy]

it appears that mos has dipped to 60% on rt.

Noooooooo!!!!!!!!!! It's the end of the world!!!!!!!!!!!

Where's my noose?

 

[Mjölnir]

that is not true at all, even when Snyder was announced as director people feared critics would be all over this movie. Certain directors are acclaimed and others have a reputation. Michael Bay for instance will most likely get a negative reaction to his films from critics. Even if its good they will find some reason to hate it. The same with Snyder can be said.

I think that's just a poor excuse. Snyder just tends to make movies that critics don't like and I'd have to see a really good explanation to why critics would dislike him rather than his movies in order to believe that for a second. I like DotD (which is certified fresh by the way) and 300, but the rest I haven't been too impressed with (might have liked Watchmen more if I hadn't read the original). And I can assure you I don't hate the man himself.

The same with Michael Bay. He has his style so movies natuarlly get similar treatment. The only movie he's made that I remember really liking was The Rock, although I haven't seen that in years so not sure how it holds up today.

 

[Gianakin_]

Yeah, I know.

I think for me it's more of a competative thing... because most other films in the superhero genre have much better ratings

Take it from a Prequel Trilogy lover, it's an impractical line of thought if you want peace of mind.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I'm just gonna keep reading this review over and over again, and hoping the film has the same effect on me as it did this guy

http://****************.com/movies/man-steel-review/

 

[ikt36]

So I was really getting myself upset about the RT ratings last night, thinking that it meant there was a strong possibility that I wouldn't like the film.

So I decided to do a search on a bunch of my favourite films/films i've really enjoyed just to get a bit of perspective. I feel ALOT better now )

Here are some of the results if you're interested (the ones I find most shocking in bold):

Rubber - 68%
The Iceman - 68%
Shutter Island - 68%
Revolutionary Road - 68%
American Psycho - 67%
Sleepy Hollow - 67%
Lawless - 67%
Watchmen - 64%
Another Earth - 64%
The Goonies - 63%
Blood Diamond - 62%
John dies at the end - 60%
300 - 60%
The Fall - 59%
Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves - 59%
Special (2005) - 57%
Blow - 55%
Blade - 55%
Hesher - 54%
What dreams may come - 54%
Mirrormask - 54%
Seeking a friend for the end of the world - 53%
The Men who stare at goats - 52%
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas - 50%
Olympus has fallen - 47%
The Basketball diaries - 46%
Rules of attraction - 43%
K-pax - 41%
The Bucket list - 40%
Equilibrium - 37%
The Man in the iron mask - 33%
The Bodyguard - 32%Hook - 31%
Kiss the girls - 30%
Machine gun preacher - 29%
Gamer - 29%
Law Abiding Citizen - 25%
Event Horizon - 23%
The Beach - 19%
Drop dead Fred - 13%

There are probably many many more, but I hope this shows how utterly pointless it is trying to judge whether you will like a movie based on critics mass opinions

Are you a Leo fan? :P

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

^ I said I might like it. It might not be a BAD film. It could be okay or even good. It might even blow my socks off. But it will be the highest critically panned anticipated event in years. I don't think the sequel should have to carry that stigma. And I do think the sequel will get better reviews, because it will probably have a stronger plot and less preconceptions against it.

 

[Gianakin_]

Exactly why I used the "quotes"...

Nowadays, I think people don't even know what Feminism is anymore... sad, really, for the true Feminist movement...

Indeed.

 

[Sup3rman81]

I think I am going to log off here and get my sanity back. I read peoples reactions to the critics on FB and Twitter and they are even more excited about this movie. They love it and people are going to see it again. I feel too many people on here care about what someone else thinks instead of thinking for themselves. We pay to see the movie so we should be the real critics not someone who gets paid but watches it for free. I will see my fellow MOS fans at the theater tonight and hope you all enjoy the movie.

 

[-JKR-]

^ I was hoping for it to be a fresh start for the DCU. I might like it, and maybe the audience will, but I'd be reluctant to put Goyer back in the writer's seat. As for Zack, I'm sure he'd create an amazing film if he had a BB quality script. But TBH, I don't think he demands as much from screenplays than Nolan does. If I were WB, I would have Nolan completely overhaul the screenplay, THEN hand it to Zack.

It pains me to say this, but critically, MOS could have benefited from a bad reboot beforehand. Something to put the film in perspective, outside the late Reeve sequels.

You do remember how Warner Bros. had to go into production with the movie in 2011, because they didn't know how the legal fight against the Shusters over the copyright would end, right? There was no time. Even less when you think that Nolan was in production with The Dark Knight Rises at the very same time (Man of Steel was supposed to be released in winter 2012, before Warners decided to push it back) And even if Nolan would have had the possibility of rewriting the script, it's still Snyder's job to translate the script to the big screen. And that could've failed aswell.

 

[shallbecomeabat]

If Nolan directed it then it would have been high on the RT chart but Snyder directed it and critics are typical when it comes to his movies. 60-65% is his average. Nolan would be getting praised for its tone and action but Snyder wont ever get credit

I have a feeling that a lot of people (critics mostly) are not down with the seriousness of a movie about a guy with red boots and a cape who can fly. Since Marvels movies, Avengers at the latest, they seem to want this tone for the whole genre, apart from maybe Batman. They look at it like "Its a silly funnybook film, so it should be funny and wink at the audience all 2 minutes". Its almost as if they want the director to say "Yeah, I know its stupid. Lets have some fun with it."

I, for one, am super happy about the serious and sombre tone DC embraces with Man Of Steel, which follows the Dark Knight Trilogy. For me, you loose a lot of tension and a lot of drama when you go too far in the Marvel direction. I like all Marvel movies, don't get me wrong, but since they are so funny and light, I NEVER feel fully immersed in the world of the movie. When I watch BB/TDK/TDKR/Watchmen, I am IN the movie and I feel everything so immediately.
No matter what people say about TDKR... it was the most intesne movie going experience in my life and I see a lot of movies in the theatre! That was exactly because they took it all super serious! I feared for every character in this movie, like I fear for a true person! Marvels funny take will never achieve that for me!

I seriously hope that MOS will be everything I hope it to be and that DC continues with that tone.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

^ Good point. If MOS was a rushed job, the sequel can more than be properly developed.

 

[Gianakin_]

^ I said I might like it. It might not be a BAD film. It could be okay or even good. It might even blow my socks off. But it will be the highest critically panned anticipated event in years. I don't think the sequel should have to carry that stigma. And I do think the sequel will get better reviews, because it will probably have a stronger plot and less preconceptions against it.

I think you're overreacting. And I don't mean this as an insult.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

Anyway, Critics Choice awards still have it at a solid 84/100.

 

[kvz5]

^ Good point. If MOS was a rushed job, the sequel can more than be properly developed.

The thing is, it's the opposite. Weren't they sitting on MoS for a while? I can't see it being a rushed job. They had time for reshoots if needed. And then we hear that the sequel is being "fast tracked".

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

That's nice, but really, there's not telling oneselves. A movie has to be seen in order to judge it. You may aswell convince yourself that you'll like it as long as it's an action-laden romp. But what if the way the action is portrayed doesn't do it for you. There's infinite variables, impossible to predict unless you've actually watched the movie.

My expectations for MOS werd tamped down as soon as Snyder was announced as director. I liked his DAWN OF THE DEAD and I really love 300, but WATCHMEN and SUCKER PUNCH were not his best work IMHO. So before the trailers, especially that 3rd trailer with the Zimmer score hit, I decided that at best I was getting a live action DC animated movie, and there had'nt been any of the Superman one of those I have'nt liked. So that's why I believed before even seeing it I wouldprobably have a good time. The release of trailers 3,4 and the Nokia trailer raised my hopes that it would be a more in depth Superman film. If it aint, oh well. A film that establishes Supes as a being with power of biblical proportionsis still going to be good for the character, pop culture wise at any rate.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Anyway, Critics Choice awards still have it at a solid 84/100.

Ha! I don't even know what that is, but.... Ha!