TMOS Reviews Thread - Non Spoiler Review and Discussion - Part 6

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I'm telling you as someone who not 24 hours ago was arguing the same point... that's not the case.

Comic book and action it succeeds in blowing stuff up and show iconic imagery from the source material.

That said - as a general movie with drama and emotion - that's where it fails. Don't get me wrong, there's moments of pure gold. I was crying like a baby at one point. But overall - 85% of the movie has no heart and no connection to the character of Kal-ek / Clark / Superman.

- Jow


I agree with you, I'm pretty sure the movie has many, many flaws. Flaws regarding the execution of some scenes we've seen in the trailers, mostly.

But I still think maybe they were expecting to see the same Superman of Returns (a movie that I actually like -please don't kill me-), saving everyone no matter how far he is from the problem, being the perfect good boy, just throwing some punches this time.

Reading most reviews I can tell it took at least some important points away from the score.


Anyways, I'll go see it today, if not tomorrow, and hope to really enjoy it for what it is, as i've lowered my expectations a bit.

I tink word ofmouth will make it succed in the end.
 
We should just chill, RT will probably end up rotten, it's a shame, it's hard to understand, but we're giving a simple figure so much credit it's getting ridiculous. What matters is that the movie does good which it already is starting to do in Asia, and people enjoy it, and we get a sequel.
 
I don't care much about the RT score for a movie (never have), but I think people who are pouncing to say that it is wrong or inaccurate before they have even seen the film themselves are being a little ridiculous.
 
I'm telling you as someone who not 24 hours ago was arguing the same point... that's not the case.

Comic book and action it succeeds in blowing stuff up and show iconic imagery from the source material.

That said - as a general movie with drama and emotion - that's where it fails. Don't get me wrong, there's moments of pure gold. I was crying like a baby at one point. But overall - 85% of the movie has no heart and no connection to the character of Kal-ek / Clark / Superman.

- Jow


There have been how many of these big budget superhero adaptations in the last decade?

It's always been about expectations. How many times have you gotten your hopes up because of an amazing trailer/marketing/whatever only to be let down by the final product?

Within the last year, I can think of TASM and TDKR. Many, many critics/fans panned (for the most part) these films in early reviews- I had refused to believe them because I wanted these movies to be great. Then, I saw the final product and I was amazed at just how much the ball had been dropped. I'm never surprised by these films being awful now- despite whatever expectations I might have originally set for them.
 
I agree with you, I'm pretty sure the movie has many, many flaws. Flaws regarding the execution of some scenes we've seen in the trailers, mostly.

But I still think maybe they were expecting to see the same Superman of Returns (a movie that I actually like -please don't kill me-), saving everyone no matter how far he is from the problem, being the perfect good boy, just throwing some punches this time.

Reading most reviews I can tell it took at least some important points away from the score.


Anyways, I'll go see it today, if not tomorrow, and hope to really enjoy it for what it is, as i've lowered my expectations a bit.

I tink word ofmouth will make it succed in the end.

People are so quick to say it has flaws and its poorly executed. Thats someones opinion of it. How would you know if you havent seen it? I have read numerous reviews saying its got great story acting and is perfectly executed. All these people on here jumping the negative bandwagon but I dont see people jumping on the numerous positive reviews RT wont ever post
 
some critics or they think they are critics are taking things literally, they just criticize.
 
He's been riding on batman begins.

Which didn't excel in the dialogue department.


JAK®;26094019 said:
What makes you think that? A lot of people say this but never give reasons for why this is so.

That visuals in Snyder's movies are great but the acting and narrative is not that good?
 
[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QWNqbqcV4dU#![/YT]
 
I am sorry but after about 4 lines down I couldn't even read your review anymore. It is worse than anything I have read so far. Once you compared it to GL I knew you had no credibility and I couldn't take you serious. Not one reviewer has disliked it enough to compare it to GL.
That's your prerogative but while I hope I don't have the same opinions he does when I see it I think his review was well written and pointed to some credible issues to have with a movie.

I don't get the die hard attitude to dismiss everything negative as bad and not to take seriously. I'd say it's far more serious to have seen the movie and explain your thoughts in detail than to not having seen the movie and dismiss what people who have think about it just because they aren't saying what you want to hear (which I'm sure is the problem here).

Even if you watch it and love it doesn't mean that another person's opinions aren't worth taking seriously.
 
People are so quick to say it has flaws and its poorly executed. Thats someones opinion of it. How would you know if you havent seen it? I have read numerous reviews saying its got great story acting and is perfectly executed. All these people on here jumping the negative bandwagon but I dont see people jumping on the numerous positive reviews RT wont ever post

Says the guy who hasn't seen it.

People are posting both positive and negative reviews here.

RT has had the same system for years, and all the movies on there follow the same system, so there is no point whining about it, their "flawed" system is flawed for all movies then.
 
Not sure if anyone has posted a link to this yet, but this article, written by someone who had already seen an early screening of the film and really liked it, has a pretty interesting analysis over why the critical reception of the film has turned out to be so mixed:

When the team of Goyer, Nolan, and Snyder came together to create the new Man Of Steel movie, they made the film from the standpoint of that they were making the first ever Superman movie. However, the reality is that they were not making the first ever Superman movie, and a lot of critics have seen the previous Superman movies, which leads to preconceived expectations.

While Superman Returns faced criticism for being too much like the Donner Superman movies, Man Of Steel is being criticized for the exact opposite reason. Several critics specifically drew comparison to the film not having the whimsical charm of the 1978 Superman as their primary reason for not liking the film...

...Besides the comparison to Donner’s Superman, the other running criticism seems to be Man Of Steel has too much action, too many visual effects, and is too loud...

...Another part of some critics’ disappointment appears to be that Superman’s relationship with Lois Lane isn’t explored in more detail. With the 1978 Superman, the romance between Superman and Lois was the key focal point of the movie, but in Man Of Steel the relationship between Clark and his two fathers, Jor-El and Jonathan Kent does seem to take more of a precedence.

http://comicbook.com/blog/2013/06/11/man-of-steel-whats-up-with-the-negative-reviews/

In short, the movie critics are actually missing the classic Superman and want him back.
 
Mjölnir;26095611 said:
That's your prerogative but while I hope I don't have the same opinions he does when I see it I think his review was well written and pointed to some credible issues to have with a movie.

I don't get the die hard attitude to dismiss everything negative as bad and not to take seriously. I'd say it's far more serious to have seen the movie and explain your thoughts in detail than to not having seen the movie and dismiss what people who have think about it.

Even if you watch it and love it doesn't mean that another person's opinions aren't worth taking seriously.

Exactly. :up: :up:
 
When people who haven't seen the film are disagreeing with reviews... I've never seen that on here before. It's a new one. I'm saddened, amused, and confused by it.
 
I am sorry but after about 4 lines down I couldn't even read your review anymore. It is worse than anything I have read so far. Once you compared it to GL I knew you had no credibility and I couldn't take you serious. Not one reviewer has disliked it enough to compare it to GL.

It's fine. I haven't taken you seriously since like your 2nd response to me.

- Jow
 
I'm so disappointed in the reviews... I can't believe this is at 58% rotten on RT. :csad:

I have my tickets for tomorrow night at 9PM, so I'll just have to hope for the best.

But no matter what I have a feeling I'll be saying get rid of Goyer by the end of it.
 
When the average Joe thinks of Superman he think of Bright colors and lighting, the Lois/Clark/Supes love triangle, a hero who oozes hope and positivity, Lex Luthor, the farm boy in the big city etc.

This movie from the looks of it, is a more gritty take on the character which something a lot of people don't associate with Superman.
 
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