I have a question. For all of those that didn't like Man of Steel...be honest. Did any of you see 300 or Watchmen in theaters and did you have similar feelings about those films?
I saw Watchmen...I was fine with it cause I knew what to expect. I just don't think people are loving this new reinterpretation of Superman (the character). I didn't have much problem with tone/atmosphere...just the character. Nolan did far better job with Batman...Bale seemed more optimistic in TDKR than Superman did in this movie...and that' a big problem.
Saw it tonight. I teared up about 6 times throughout, mostly at the beginning. Sure there are some slight editing issues, but the pacing was fine. It did feel like he became Superman a little quick, but not that big a deal. The action actually went by pretty quickly, but it was quite an eyeful, in a good way.
I didn't find anything bad with the dialogue unlike some of Goyer's other work, and the story was just fine. I understand the liberties they took with some of the origin stuff, and think that some of the things they incorporated worked very well actually to give some weight to the "science" of Superman.
A few things could have been fleshed out a bit more, but there is much potential for the series from here on out. Overall, I'd give it an 8.5/10 upon my first viewing, and put it third on my list of superhero/comic films behind Batman Begins and The Avengers. Will be seeing this again another two times with family and the girlfriend.
I understand the frustration and issues some may have with the film, but I found it very enjoyable, and no where near as bad as critics and some others here are making it out to be. The audience I was with in NYC applauded and enjoyed the film based on chatter and reactions I witnessed. This will open very well this weekend.
Saw the movie tonight, and I left the theater with a big smile on my face.
Is it among, let's say, my "Top 10 Comic Book Movies" list? No, but it's still a damn good film, and thank goodness Superman has a good movie after 33 years! It's a step in the right direction for Superman, in my opinion.
Oh, and this is probably the most gorgeous comic book movie to date. Kudos to Zach Snyder, because I think the imagery in this movie was epic and wonderful. It's a visual feast (more so than the likes of 300 and Watchmen, in my honest opinion). For example, we all saw the part with kid Clark wearing the red blanket as a cape in the previews. When seeing it in context with the movie, though, it gave me chills and ALL THE FEELS. Gah, so good!
I think the critics are so wrong about this movie, folks. Don't let the lukewarm reviews discourage you from seeing it. Give it a chance. This movie makes up for the abomination that is Superman Returns, in my opinion.
As a side note, one of my favorite parts of the movie was when
Superman killed General Zod. The moment went from being badass to downright heartbreaking. He actively killed someone for the first time AND the person he killed was the last of his kind (aside from himself, of course). It was a really heavy moment, and I honestly almost cried! That scene alone gave me more emotions than all of Superman Returns.
I saw Watchmen...I was fine with it cause I knew what to expect. I just don't think people are loving this new reinterpretation of Superman (the character). I didn't have much problem with tone/atmosphere...just the character. Nolan did far better job with Batman...Bale seemed more optimistic in TDKR than Superman did in this movie...and that' a big problem.
I enjoyed the movie, but the editing left me confused at times. I don't think the flashback scenes were smooth enough of transitions and I found myself asking "What just happen?" The action was great, and Cavil plays a good Superman. I was so anxiously waiting for Shannon to yell Kneel before Zod!!! lol but like I said, it's a bit choppy in the editing department but other than that it's a must see!
Someone told me it's trying too hard to be Batman Begins, I disagree, I think it's the Superman we all been waiting for, it's not perfect but it's a well made production and it satisfies all the avid fans. My girl feel asleep tho, poor her.
I actually saw it in the Drive-In, yeah I was cheap, so what? big woff, wanna fight about it? But anyways I plan on seeing it in Imax.
Yeah because Watchmen and 300 both are in the 60's on Rotten Tomatoes and I own and have watched both films multiple times...love them both. That is what is keeping my hopes up hearing a lot of these negative reviews.
From the sounds of things so far you can't even compare the movies .... especially Watchmen. It had a level of depth and intellectualism in its screenplay that appears to be on a different planet compared to MoS ..... especially some of Rorschach's monologues.
It is good to see a high rating on IMDB. Like I have mentioned before on the forum, more people look at IMDB then any other site for movie details, this is because IMDB links are the first to appear on search like Google.
It is good to see a high rating on IMDB. Like I have mentioned before on the forum, more people look at IMDB then any other site for movie details, this is because IMDB links are the first to appear on search like Google.
+Great cast, especially Costner & Crowe.
+A genuine first contact sci-fi epic.
+Brisk pace, lots of action, scary villains.
+Krypton's out of this world.
Why so serious, Superman?
Rebooting the DC hero in epic sci-fi style, Man of Steel is the action-packed Superman film you've long wanted to see. 9.0
This Review was From Ign Movies and is what I Think to...
From the sounds of things so far you can't even compare the movies .... especially Watchmen. It had a level of depth and intellectualism in its screenplay that appears to be on a different planet compared to MoS ..... especially some of Rorschach's monologues.
I promise a few things to those who haven't seen it, again I will not get spoilerish. 1. It is not too dark for Superman. 2. It does not feel like a Nolan Batman film interchanged with Superman. 3. It has a great comic book tone and if you are a fan of TAS there are elements that feel like a live version extension of it. I can't say that everything is perfect, but it is definitely on par with the first Iron Man and to reiterate... better than The Avengers (plot AND action).
Disagree.....it definitely felt like a Nolan film to me and certainly not as optimistic at TAS. I didn't have problem with tone of impending doom (that was kind of exciting) but characterization of Clark is too jaded/aloof/arrogant and bit nonchalant....not optimistic. I think they did good job building up the challenge Zod provides, but I didn't walk out of theater excited about our new Superman's adventure in sequel. They would pretty much have to retconn or ignore plot points/characterization with new director/writer for me to care.
Disagree.....it definitely felt like a Nolan film to me and certainly not as optimistic at TAS. I didn't have problem with tone of impending doom (that was kind of exciting) but characterization of Clark is too jaded/aloof/arrogant and bit nonchalant....not optimistic. I think they did good job building up the challenge Zod provides, but I didn't walk out of theater excited about our new Superman's adventure in sequel. They would pretty much have to retconn or ignore plot points/characterization with new director/writer for me to care.
Disagree.....it definitely felt like a Nolan film to me and certainly not as optimistic at TAS. I didn't have problem with tone of impending doom (that was kind of exciting) but characterization of Clark is too jaded/aloof/arrogant and bit nonchalant....not optimistic. I think they did good job building up the challenge Zod provides, but I didn't walk out of theater excited about our new Superman's adventure in sequel. They would pretty much have to retconn or ignore plot points/characterization with new director/writer for me to care.
Which could have been easily avoided. At look of absolute joy and understanding of who he was meant to be when he flew for the first time? It was pure catharsis,and should have stayed with him for the rest of the film. Instead he acted same in the third act as he was in the first, just now he had a Superman suit and talked in a slightly deeper voice.
It's like the "Step aside, General" line Reeve utters. You know, in that moment, that Superman is here and everything will be ok. This movie was sorely missing that.
I sort of feel Snyder has to go as well...he can direct cool action, but I feel a good director would be patient with the camera to make sure the audience sees that proper emotional touch...Snyder comes across too impatient, ready to get the next scene that he may just overlook good potential in a decent script. Forty minutes of non-stop action is nice, but they could have taken out 10 minutes and put into some heart-to-heart bonding and showed why Clark is an optimistic person...why does he choose to save people in spite of what's happened to him. That's not really ever shown in the movie. You would need a Spielberg/Cameron league director or a good indie one.
Which could have been easily avoided. At look of absolute joy and understanding of who he was meant to be when he flew for the first time? It was pure catharsis,and should have stayed with him for the rest of the film. Instead he acted same in the third act as he was in the first, just now he had a Superman suit and talked in a slightly deeper voice.
It's like the "Step aside, General" line Reeve utters. You know, in that moment, that Superman is here and everything will be ok. This movie was sorely missing that.
When he suits up and starts to realise what he's capable of, hell yeah he's loving it - but he didn't know a group of genocidal Kryptonian warriors were just about to try and kill everyone on the planet... damn you Superman for not enjoying yourself during that!
This is a origin story, which effectively deals with Clark realising who he is and what he's capapble of, after years of being told to repress it. The film ends with Clark clearly positive about who he is, and sets up sequels nicely.
I sort of feel Snyder has to go as well...he can direct cool action, but I feel a good director would be patient with the camera to make sure the audience sees that proper emotional touch...Snyder comes across too impatient, ready to get the next scene that he may just overlook good potential in a decent script. Forty minutes of non-stop action is nice, but they could have taken out 10 minutes and put into some heart-to-heart bonding and showed why Clark is an optimistic person...why does he choose to save people in spite of what's happened to him. That's not really ever shown in the movie. You would need a Spielberg/Cameron league director or a good indie one.
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