The Dark Knight Rises Tom Hardy as Bane IX

[Schlosser85]

....not really?

It's sturdy, it's a long way from "massive".

 

[Marx]

...someone over 6 foot tall and 250-300 pounds isn't inhuman.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

If you look at the set pictures revealed today, you would see that Hardy is clearly not Bane-size.



What exactly is it that I'm doing? Stating an opinion that is different from yours? It would be a pretty boring forum if everyone agreed on everything. I'm certainly not about to advocate censoring or silencing opposing opinions just because they're different from my own as you seem to be.

Yes, that is an opinion... BUT here's what pisses me off. I've seen several of your comrades make the 'troll-ish' comment when they favor something that a non-Mod does not. I've been to the Green Lantern, Captain America, Transformers, etc forums, and whenever a non-Mod member stated something negative about a character or a costume in pre-production, the Mod told him or her that they were acting or behaving troll-ish/troll. They then basically repeated what I stated to you (wait and see...)

Like I said, you have your opinions and I have mine (and so does everyone else) but if you're allowed to state that someone got it wrong before the film is even finished -- then so does everyone else, and that's not the feeling I'm getting from these forums. I can't say what's on my mind because I could get an infraction or a troll-ish label from some passive-aggressive Mod.

Back on the subject at hand, your views on Bane's size are right and wrong. All I'm saying is can't you wait until we see with our own eyes on the big screen IF Bane's size will be an issue? Hardy has stated that Nolan would be using camera trickery. Why would he lie?

 

[RolandDaggett]

Could they still make him bigger with CGI in post?

And what is the mask for? Is it to make him big and strong? Cause we haven't seen much evidence of that so far.

 

[Brother Jack]

That is one awesome coat.

 

[Rod47]

My concerns about size seem to be proven legitimate in this particular picture...

Bane's built, or lack thereof, is so obvious with those baggy clothes. He looks like Little Wayne with clothes that baggy.

And even with those baggy clothes, Bats still looks bigger (built wise). Bane looks taller because he's standing on higher steps but any intelligent guy would know that. Look at the length of the body and the arms (the entire figure of Bane). It looks slightly shorter than Bats, despite Bane being higher.

 

[Spideyfan93]

Of course not Marx.

But Tom Hardy doesn't have the body type for that.

 

[twostep]

Do you not think a scene with Batman and Bane fighting, with no visible enhancements or preparations for Hardy -- is damn solid evidence that there may very well be no tricks involved?

Camera placement won't help there as they are both on even ground. Plus, choreography indicates that hits are going exactly where they're supposed to on Hardy. There is no accounting for size discrepancy.

The way that teaser footage is shot, tells us nothing. It is the conventional way of shooting behind a figure who is walking up steps. For whatever reason people are ignoring perspective and are surmising visual trickery that has no evidence of ever being present.

I think it's awesome that you consider pictures taken from somebody's Nikon "set-pictures" and make final judgement based off of that. I mean you are right, they are the same size in the pictures that we've seen from that Nikon and I'm sure they will remain that way throughout post production.

The one thing that I can't wrap my head around right now is, if it is snowing in Pittsburgh in August, why can't we see anybody's breath in those photos? How in the world will they fix that?

And I still don't get your perspective argument, mainly because you... don't... have one? You take a conventional shot with two characters in it. The one that you want to look bigger you place nearer the camera, the one you want smaller you place farther away. It's done so to emphasize might in one character and timidness in the other and they've been doing that since the beginning of film.

Bane looks bigger in the trailer because the director put him nearer the camera. Duh?

 

[DKDetective]

...someone over 6 foot tall and 250-300 pounds isn't inhuman.

No, but they tend not to be the most agile folks and I can't think of many who can act well.

[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmH7W6B4iYg[/YT]

 

[Marx]

Yes, that is an opinion... BUT here's what pisses me off. I've seen several of your comrades make the 'troll-ish' comment when they favor something that a non-Mod does not. I've been to the Green Lantern, Captain America, Transformers, etc forums, and whenever a non-Mod member stated something negative about a character or a costume in pre-production, the Mod told him or her that they were acting or behaving troll-ish/troll. They then basically repeated what I stated to you (wait and see...)

Like I said, you have your opinions and I have mine (and so does everyone else) but if you're allowed to state that someone got it wrong before the film is even finished -- then so does everyone else, and that's not the feeling I'm getting from these forums. I can't say what's on my mind because I could get an infraction or a troll-ish label from some passive-aggressive Mod.

That's exactly my point. Everyone has a right to say their opinion whether they agree with you or not. You just asked me to "bite my tongue" until more comes out which is suggesting that I shouldn't comment on anything and that's not right or fair in the least. The batforums seem to lean very pro-Nolan and anyone who doesn't praise him at every turn gets ridiculed or dismissed as a troll or purist. I, for one, am tired of seeing that happen. We're ALL Batman fans here and we should ALL be allowed to speak in here.

Back on the subject at hand, your views on Bane's size are right and wrong. All I'm saying is can't you wait until we see with our own eyes on the big screen IF Bane's size will be an issue? Hardy has stated that Nolan would be using camera trickery. Why would he lie?

People here are arguing that a two second shot (which was shot from directly behind Bane going up the stairs toward Batman who was standing several feet away) in a teaser trailer is proof of Bane's physical presence. It doesn't prove anything. The set pictures that popped up today, on the other hand, show that the concerns by many (including myself) are not without merit.

 

[evildeadguy]

That is one awesome coat.

Most agreed. That gives that homeless man from Batman Begins a run for his money on the coat he wore.

 

[Marx]

Of course not Marx.

But Tom Hardy doesn't have the body type for that.

That's why I cannot wrap my head around Hardy being cast. I love Tom Hardy, but he is not physically on the level that Bane needs to be. He's more suited for someone like Black Mask, not Bane.

No, but they tend not to be the most agile folks and I can't think of many who can act well.

[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmH7W6B4iYg[/YT]

I can't see your video...

 

[The Guard]

It'd be kind of amusing if he had worn THAT coat.

Taking bets on whether Batman will say "Nice coat" to Bane.

 

[HighFivingMF]

It'd be kind of amusing if he had worn THAT coat.

Taking bets on whether Batman will say "Nice coat" to Bane.

Oh ****! You found the twist!

 

[twostep]

That's exactly my point. Everyone has a right to say their opinion whether they agree with you or not. You just asked me to "bite my tongue" until more comes out which is suggesting that I shouldn't comment on anything and that's not right or fair in the least. The batforums seem to lean very pro-Nolan and anyone who doesn't praise him at every turn gets ridiculed or dismissed as a troll or purist. I, for one, am tired of seeing that happen. We're ALL Batman fans here and we should ALL be allowed to speak in here.



People here are arguing that a two second shot (which was shot from directly behind Bane going up the stairs toward Batman who was standing several feet away) in a teaser trailer is proof of Bane's physical presence. It doesn't prove anything. The set pictures that popped up today, on the other hand, show that the concerns by many (including myself) are not without merit.

NO, they do not. They show that Tom Hardy and Christian Bale are about the same height in real life.

They show no bearing over perspective (we're not looking through Nolan's eyes) or any post-production work.

That's what you "Banesizers" can't grasp.

I only pointed out the trailer as "proof" because it at least shows Nolan is conscious of perspective - ala put who you want to be bigger nearer the camera. I know that its hogwash as proof but so are your damn "set-pics".

 

[KRIM]

I think it's awesome that you consider pictures taken from somebody's Nikon "set-pictures" and make final judgement based off of that. I mean you are right, they are the same size in the pictures that we've seen from that Nikon and I'm sure they will remain that way throughout post production.

The one thing that I can't wrap my head around right now is, if it is snowing in Pittsburgh in August, why can't we see anybody's breath in those photos? How in the world will they fix that?

So if I'm understanding correctly, you are equating a minor visual indicator of scenic atmosphere, with that of a primary character's physical presence and iconography throughout an entire movie. Which when applied to the department of post-production work and sheer manpower it takes to achieve the desired effect, suddenly illuminates just how utterly desperate that comparison was. What I can't wrap my head around is why you thought that would be the proper way to utilize sarcasm and display your wit.

And I still don't get your perspective argument, mainly because you... don't... have one? You take a conventional shot with two characters in it. The one that you want to look bigger you place nearer the camera, the one you want smaller you place farther away. It's done so to emphasize might in one character and timidness in the other and they've been doing that since the beginning of film.

Bane looks bigger in the trailer because the director put him nearer the camera. Duh?

I really don't understand what you're having trouble with. The obvious nature of the shot is precisely what I've been targeting. Various people have cited it as proof that Bane will be "massive" and loom over Batman throughout the movie. It is a simple scene that highlights Bane's screen dominance, but only for this specific shot. It is very much different from the implications that Bane will actually be significantly bigger than Batman.

 

[-Arya-]

That's why I cannot wrap my head around Hardy being cast. I love Tom Hardy, but he is not physically on the level that Bane needs to be.

In terms of physical appearance you're correct, however Hardy is capable of dominating opponents in a fight. If he brings the same aggression and dominance that he brought to Bronson, then I have absolutely nothing to worry about. I'm hoping we can somewhat agree on that.

 

[GrimmReaper7]

since Talia has pretty much been confirmed any you guys still think Bane is the main villain??? I hope he doesnt end up being a pawn/muscle for Talia hes alot better than that

 

[Schlosser85]

Maybe he's her right-hand man/lover like in some of the comics.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

That's exactly my point. Everyone has a right to say their opinion whether they agree with you or not. You just asked me to "bite my tongue" until more comes out which is suggesting that I shouldn't comment on anything and that's not right or fair in the least. The batforums seem to lean very pro-Nolan and anyone who doesn't praise him at every turn gets ridiculed or dismissed as a troll or purist. I, for one, am tired of seeing that happen. We're ALL Batman fans here and we should ALL be allowed to speak in here.



People here are arguing that a two second shot (which was shot from directly behind Bane going up the stairs toward Batman who was standing several feet away) in a teaser trailer is proof of Bane's physical presence. It doesn't prove anything. The set pictures that popped up today, on the other hand, show that the concerns by many (including myself) are not without merit.

I'm not saying you can't comment on Bane's size. What I'm saying is can't you hold off on the "Nolan got it wrong" comments (regarding Bane's size) until we see what we see the film or at least the next trailer? That's all I'm saying.

Okay, that is reasonable, but if the teaser doesn't offer enough then neither do the set pictures. It's not enough to create a solid case on.

 

[Zero7756]

Dude, there's no opinion involved.

Check out what I did with a leaked set photo and a couple seconds in photoshop.

I moved Bane two inches to the left, and rotated the frame 15 degrees.

 

[Zero7756]

By cropping most of his head out of the shot and keeping batman in-- honestly, does he not look like he TOWERS over Batman?

 

[EliteF50]

since Talia has pretty much been confirmed any you guys still think Bane is the main villain??? I hope he doesnt end up being a pawn/muscle for Talia hes alot better than that

How is she confirmed?

 

[Astro13Zombie]

In terms of physical appearance you're correct, however Hardy is capable of dominating opponents in a fight. If he brings the same aggression and dominance that he brought to Bronson, then I have absolutely nothing to worry about. I'm hoping we can agree somewhat on that.

It's a movie.
ANYBODY can be made to look like they're "capable of dominating opponents in a fight"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-JnpaAzsOk
There's really no real reason that Hardy is a good choice for bane.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

since Talia has pretty much been confirmed any you guys still think Bane is the main villain??? I hope he doesnt end up being a pawn/muscle for Talia hes alot better than that

When was this confirmed? Link?