The Dark Knight Rises Tom Hardy as Bane XVII

[Yurka]

Of the 4 new Bane pics we've gotten in the past few days, he appears massive in each of them. Nolan knows what he's doing.

 

[venus_ice]

I think it's time to let the 6 foot Bane argument go.

It is not going to happen in this film. Nolan isn't physically characterizing him the same exact way he is in the comics. It's a moot point. Whining about it is useless.

Reread if confused:

Nolan On Bane:

"The Prologue is basically the first six, seven minutes of the film. Its the introduction to Bane and a taste of the rest of the film. With Bane we are looking to give Batman a physical challenge that he hasn't had before. He's a great sort of movie monster, but with an incredible brain, and that was a side of him that hand't been taped before. Because the stories from the comics are very epic and very evocative---very much in the way that Bruce Wayne's origin story is epic and evocative. We were looking to really parallel that with our choice of villain. So he's a worthy adversary. I felt that if I could get somebody as talented as Tom to agree to hide himself in the character I would get something very special. What I really feel with a great actor is every movement, every hand gesture, every step, has performance in it. Tom completely got it. It's an incredible challenge to remove motion of the face so that you can't put things across in the usual way, and you just have the eyes and a bit of the scalp and the arms and legs. What I knew is that from Tom I would get something where you get a total character and everything has incredible thought applied to it. And a lot of what he's doing is very counterintuitive. He has this incredible disjunct between the expressiveness of the voice and the stillness of the movement of his body. He's found a way to play a character who is enormous and powerful with a sort of calm to it, but also is able to incredibly fast at times. Unpredictable. He just has a raw threat to him that's extraordinary. It's a very powerful thing when you see it come together, beyond what I have ever imagined. That's what you get from working with great actors."

Ahhh but it is SHH after all...

 

[The_Raganork]

Rag, all the shots won't be like that, though.

That effect would be damn near impossible to achieve when Batman and Bane are directly next to each other, and engaged in combat.

Clearly not, that was meant to be a "worse case scenario" sort of turn of speech.

"Forced perspective" and "camera trickery" can only do so much. The fact that people want to use two seconds from the trailer and a "come at me bro" picture as some sort of proof proves absolutely nothing. When the camera angle is shot from directly behind Bane with Batman standing about ten feet away OF COURSE BANE IS GOING TO APPEAR BIGGER. Every shot of them together will not be like that. There's no way.

No.

You've now gotten TWO images of Batman and Bane together both are using the same technique. That's not a coincidence. This is the trick they're going to use. That's the precedent and it will be followed in other shots.

And again: Forced Perspective on TOP of the lifts aren't enough? He's going to be taller than Batman. I mean that's painfully clear at this point.

He's going to be noticably taller and bigger than Batman.

It's about respecting the character. Bane's height and size (along with his mask) are his most recognizable characteristics. It's no different than the Joker having a white face, green hair, and a purple coat. No different than the Scarecrow wearing a burlap sap mask.

This is the perma-white discussion again. Bane is taller than Batman in both the comics and this film.

Bane is bigger than Batman in both the comics and this movie.

Bane mask differs, yes.

Joker wasn't perma-white but had a white face.

Bane has a mask but not that mask.

 

[Marx]

You guys are still hung up on Hardys height??? Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezus....

It's a valid concern. It's unfortunate that people like me have been staying out of this forum because of the continued mockery of our opinion, being dismissed and accused of not being real fans, and all of the "Nolan can do no wrong/I'm fine with whatever he does" comments.

 

[TheLongestDay]

It's a valid concern. It's unfortunate that people like me have been staying out of this forum because of the continued mockery of our opinion, being dismissed and accused of not being real fans, and all of the "Nolan can do no wrong/I'm fine with whatever he does" comments.

No,it just is what it is and and this point I really thought people wouldve let it go....

 

[Boom]

He just has a raw threat to him that's extraordinary. It's a very powerful thing when you see it come together, beyond what I have ever imagined.

Glory.

 

[Blue Sugar]

It's about respecting the character. Bane's height and size (along with his mask) are his most recognizable characteristics. It's no different than the Joker having a white face, green hair, and a purple coat. No different than the Scarecrow wearing a burlap sap mask.

Meh, respecting the character. Sounds tied back and silly to me. But it all comes down to what you personally thinks defines a character and how accepting you are of changes.

Scarecrow looking like a Scarecrow is essential, Joker looking like a clown is essential. But for example I'm one of those that would not cry blood if there once was a Joker without a purple coat. And I loved Scarecrow in a business-suit like in BB.

It's all about different versions of characters, in different contexts and different stories.

Bane towering over Batman might be essential to you but not to everyone (as evidence by most opinions of this forum).

That's why wording like disrespecting the character annoys me. Disrespecting says who? The creator of the character?

 

[batbax]

Lol its like the cast are all saying how awesome bane is going to be etc etc etc and every pic of him looks intimidating etc etc etc BUT hes only 6 foot 4 instead of 6 foot 6 so FAIL..Its so mind numbingly ridiculous that its to the point of not really even being an opinion, but a complete lack of any kind of vision and complete stubborness. Sorry but seriously if your still clinging to this there is no way your gonna be satisfied with the movie. They may has well have casted the undertaker in the role, then you may have been pleased.

 

[venus_ice]

Disrespecting says who?

The insane people on the internet.

 

[Blue Sugar]

It's a valid concern. It's unfortunate that people like me have been staying out of this forum because of the continued mockery of our opinion, being dismissed and accused of not being real fans, and all of the "Nolan can do no wrong/I'm fine with whatever he does" comments.

I would never accuse anyone for not being a real fan. And I haven't seen anyone else do it either?

And all this "Nolan can do no wrong/I'm fine with whatever he does" things are so hyperbolic, I've rarely seen a comment like that here.

 

[Marx]

Lol its like the cast are all saying how awesome bane is going to be etc etc etc and every pic of him looks intimidating etc etc etc BUT hes only 6 foot 4 instead of 6 foot 6 so FAIL..Its so mind numbingly ridiculous that its to the point of not really even being an opinion, but a complete lack of any kind of vision and complete stubborness. Sorry but seriously if your still clinging to this there is no way your gonna be satisfied with the movie. They may has well have casted the undertaker in the role, then you may have been pleased.

What is mind-numbingly ridiculous is the continued mockery and dismissal of any opinion that isn't praising Christopher Nolan and his abilities at every turn.

 

[Marx]

I would never accuse anyone for not being a real fan. And I haven't seen anyone else do it either?

And all this "Nolan can do no wrong/I'm fine with whatever he does" things are so hyperbolic, I've rarely seen a comment like that here.

You must not be looking very hard then. I saw three different people make that type of comment in the last two days. (One of which I specifically responded to yesterday.)

 

[Harley2004]

Hardy's comments are just great. Everything from him having to inhale gas to deal with pain, and about how smart he is. I almost wish there were no Catwoman, so the whole thing could just focus on Bane v Batman.

No it doesn't. For some of us, Bane should be around 6'5 or so. He should tower over Batman.

 

[Blue Sugar]

nevermind

 

[Boom]

Marx has a perfectly valid point, guys.

Bane being a giant hulk of a man serves as a physical manifestation of his defining traits: physical dominance and sheer force. You see that guy, and you know exactly what sort of hell is about to rain down on you.

Obviously, Bane being the same height/size as Batman doesn't necessarily mean that these traits have been abandoned (and going by Nolan and Hardy's comments, they won't be) - but it's certainly not as "in your face" as his comic-book counterpart.

 

[batbax]

What is mind-numbingly ridiculous is the continued mockery and dismissal of any opinion that isn't praising Christopher Nolan and his abilities at every turn.

Actually has nothing to do with that. Actually Im not mocking anything. Im seriously questioning how someone can see all the pics, read all the comments, see how massive bane is, and still say that it isnt bane because hes maybe an inch or two MAYBE shorter than they want him . THAT is whats mind numbing. Forget if its nolan or michael bay directing. HOW can you look at hardys bane and think hes not "tall" enbough? Its like you clung onto the belief he wasnt going to be big enough from the first photo of him and you cant let go no matter how much evidence you recieve to the contrary.

 

[The_Raganork]

What is mind-numbingly ridiculous is the continued mockery and dismissal of any opinion that isn't praising Christopher Nolan and his abilities at every turn.

No.

That's not what's happening MARX. People are going on about him not being tall enough but in every shot he appears to be a foot taller than Batman.

I know, I know not every shot will look like that but, there's no chance in that being that way.

I've already told you that he wears lifts that make him equal to Batman's height on set, adding the forced perspective is going to make him, at the very least, taller than Batman.

We all know how far Force perspective can go, this should be easing your mind that Nolan is going to make him significantly taller so that Batman is dominated aesthetically by Bane

 

[Caligula]

It's a valid concern. It's unfortunate that people like me have been staying out of this forum because of the continued mockery of our opinion, being dismissed and accused of not being real fans, and all of the "Nolan can do no wrong/I'm fine with whatever he does" comments.

It's not valid. It's childish, idiotic and immature. Don't try to twist it around.

 

[The_Raganork]

Marx has a perfectly valid point, guys.

Bane being a giant hulk of a man serves as a physical manifestation of his defining traits: physical dominance and sheer force. You see that guy, and you know exactly what sort of hell is about to rain down on you.

Obviously, Bane being the same height/size as Batman doesn't necessarily mean that these traits have been abandoned (and going by Nolan and Hardy's comments, they won't be) - but it's certainly not as "in your face" as his comic-book counterpart.

again these aren't comic books. There's a lot of things in comics that look cool that'll look foolish with real people.

Bane is like 7-8feet in the comics no?

 

[Gianakin_]

jmc, allow me to eat crow for disagreeing with you about the brutality of TDKR!

 

[Keyser Soze]

No it doesn't. For some of us, Bane should be around 6'5 or so. He should tower over Batman...not look him dead in the eye. I hope it's a great movie and I hope that Hardy will be great, but there are some things are are unnecessarily distracting. If the Joker didn't have a white face, people would be justifiably ready to riot.

It just seems like moving the goal-posts to me. First, the problem was that Tom Hardy was laughably small and won't look like a credible physical threat as Bane. Then he shows up on set bulked up to hell and about the same size as Batman, and the problem becomes not that Bane must be someone who could convincingly overpower Batman, but specifically that he has to be taller than him. Then we see that camerawork and forced perspective is being used to make Bane appear a head taller than Batman, and the problem becomes that Bane can't just be taller, but has to be SUBSTANTIALLY taller than Batman to be an effective representation of the character. If Tom Hardy went on the rack and came out 6'5", would the next requirement be that Bane must reach Arkham Asylum proportions?

Though the iconic back-breaking Knightfall cover depicts Bane as a hulking goliath with shoulders on top of his shoulders, in the comics themselves, he's a big dude, and yes, taller than Batman, but not so much of a behomoth.

 

[Hype_the_Hero]

Guys don't get side tracked with petty arguments please... DID YOU SEE THOSE PICTURES? and read the interviews???? OMFGGGG

 

[Miranda Fox]

What is mind-numbingly ridiculous is the continued mockery and dismissal of any opinion that isn't praising Christopher Nolan and his abilities at every turn.

While I cannot deny that that goes on (and it is ridiculous - Nolan isn't above criticism and I'm saying that as a huge fan of his), I don't think this is why people find the argument regarding Bane's height exasperating. The reason people don't understand why it is a problem is because, in the great scheme of things, it really doesn't matter. Do you honestly, truly believe that height supercedes everything else here - including the overall performance (which, admittedly, may not be great, but I can't see Hardy ****ing it up. But I am biased )?

If you just think it is a shame they didn't go for a taller actor, that's fair. But if this ruins everything for you? Well, I'm sorry to say, but that is silly. *shrugs*

 

[Boom]

again these aren't comic books. There's a lot of things in comics that look cool that'll look foolish with real people.

Bane is like 7-8feet in the comics no?

In his initial appearances, I never pegged Bane for being more than 6'5". Obviously, he's gotten more cartoonish over the years in his depiction - growing to the size of an elephant and just being an anatomical joke. But he was much more grounded in the early days of the character.

 

[Michael Frost]

I know...I know...but they'll be the using "teh camera trickery". Camera trickery can only do so much.