The Dark Knight Rises Tom Hardy as Bane XXIX

[Baneis8feettall]

Bane was not some love-stricken henchman for Talia in TDKR. I honestly don't know where people are pulling this from. Bane was established quite clearly as Talia's guardian/protector and loving fatherly-older sibling figure. Not once was Bane ordered around like a lapdog by Talia. He was her most trusted friend and partner.

And I disagree with your notion that The Nolans didn't use Knightfall inspirations for movie Bane. He was considerably intelligent, and equally as badass as comics Bane.

Exactly.

First of all, a henchman wouldn't protect someone by his decision. Bane decided to act and protect Talia, even it lead his disfigurement. Henchman does it for money,title etc. He didn't even know who was Talia and what will happen. She was just a lamb thrown in wolf pack.

Second, Talia's admiration for Bane was clear. She talked about Bane as he is her tragic hero.She makes her father to save him. She's relationship with father has been broken for Bane. After he died first thing she did was taking Bane back to LOS. Who would do these for a henchman?

And third, there is no order but telling Bane to let Batman live until he feels the heat.Also Bane doesn't even listen her.

Bane & Talia has very deep relationship, it's love & trust "molded" by the hell on earth. That's why despite both of them had truely creepy & brutal souls they cared for eachother until the end.

Also just think about it? If Bane was even thrown off by Ra's and as we know his ego from "Do you feel in charge" or "I'm the LOS"... Why would he want to be a henchman to Talia? If he can break Batman, god knows what he can do to Talia.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

I didn't say they they didn't take notions. I just said he was not that badass than in the comics. And when did they show that he was intelligent?

He made accurate calculations as to when the Fushion Reactor would reach its expiration date without the power source and he intimate knowledge of the Gotham's infrastructure.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Exactly.

First of all, a henchman wouldn't protect someone by his decision. Bane decided to act and protect Talia, even it lead his disfigurement. Henchman does it for money,title etc. He didn't even know who was Talia and what will happen. She was just a lamb thrown in wolf pack.

Second, Talia's admiration for Bane was clear. She talked about Bane as he is her tragic hero.She makes her father to save him. She's relationship with father has been broken for Bane. After he died first thing she did was taking Bane back to LOS. Who would do these for a henchman?

And third, there is no order but telling Bane to let Batman live until he feels the heat.Also Bane doesn't even listen her.

Bane & Talia has very deep relationship, it's love & trust "molded" by the hell on earth. That's why despite both of them had truely creepy & brutal souls they cared for eachother until the end.

Also just think about it? If Bane was even thrown off by Ra's and as we know his ego from "Do you feel in charge" or "I'm the LOS"... Why would he want to be a henchman to Talia? If he can break Batman, god knows what he can do to Talia.

Bane rescued Talia from certain death -- as to why? He sympathized with the young child (seeing as he was born in The Pit) and she was his only link to 'innocence' in hell. So much so that Bane sacrificed his health (and nearly his life) to grant Talia her freedom. If Bane had been a simple henchman or asset, Talia would have disposed of him the moment she didn't find him 'valuable' to the cause (ex. Bane killing his own henchmen in the sewers). That didn't transpire as the clock winded down and Bane was weakened. She repaired his mask and then recounted to Batman of their tragic past and bond.

 

[Bruce Malone]

There was certainly a deep bond between the two you can tell in the later scene just through banes tearing eyes.

I wonder though was the affection purely of the brother sister nature which i assume it was or do you think there was a romantic element somewhere?

 

[LostSon88]

In Banes eyes, Talis represented the innocence he never had.

I think his love for her moreso was about the idea she represented in his mind than anything else.

So for me, no. I definitely didn't see a romantic connection between them.

Big brother protecting little sister? Without question.

 

[HighFivingMF]

There was certainly a deep bond between the two you can tell in the later scene just through banes tearing eyes.

I wonder though was the affection purely of the brother sister nature which i assume it was or do you think there was a romantic element somewhere?

 

[Duran Man]

I just saw it several hours ago, and Tom Hardy as bane was my favourite part of the whole movie. Whenevr he wasn't on screen, I kept thinking, "when's Bane coming back?" There were 2 or 3 times when I couldn't make out what he said, but it didn't affect my understanding of the story.

 

[Bruce Malone]

50 SHADES OF BANE

I get to trademark it first dammit!

 

[johnrain]

Did Tom Hardy have to play Bane? Any bigger pro wrestler type could have pulled it off.

 

[Spuzz]

Did Tom Hardy have to play Bane? Any bigger pro wrestler type could have pulled it off.

Isn't there a bridge somewhere that you can live under and bother goats that try to cross it?

 

[Norek]

Did Tom Hardy have to play Bane? Any bigger pro wrestler type could have pulled it off.

Hmmm....

*Looks at Batman & Robin*

Nope.

 

[Vader815]

In light of the last page or two accurately deducing Bane's independence from Talia as a character and understanding his motivations, I'd like to share some thoughts on the character.

Bane is the best villain Nolan's thus far written in his career. The thing is, the Joker doesn't challenge Bruce on every level. He basically points out uncomfortable truths about him (he's more or less the same as the Joker [insane] and just copes with it differently), forcing him to question his moral decisions, because morality is such a massive part of the character and the themes in Dark Knight, it works wonders as the underpinning 'point' of the narrative.

I want to be clear nothing I'm saying is meant to devalue TDK or The Joker.

Bane, on the other hand, demonstrates the weight of the original choices Bruce Wayne made on becoming the character in the film first, challenging the very essence of that choice, simultaniously empowering that decision and showing its importance while tearing Bruce Wayne apart and his legacy with it, forcing Bruce to confront perhaps the most uncomfortable truth about the character in Nolan's films and the mythos of bruce- Batman is an emotional compulsion, it's a need to excise his demons, it's for him, not for the city. That uncomfortable truth dominates the first half of the movie from Alfred's poignant and critical monologues to Bane annihilating everything that enabled Batman to be Batman( the darkness, the theatricality, the power of fighting with such fierce skill, and finally, he takes control of his arsenal, the thing that ultimately enabled him to become the persona) whereas this is something The Joker only hints at and never focuses on. This is why the primary reason the time spent in the pit is so powerful and triumphant, he finally learns how to be empowered and let Batman be a symbol to Gotham, something seperate from himself, fulfilling the ultimate goal and plan he logicaly wanted for his city- something that couldn't have been satisfied were it not for Bane and his relationship and mirror-like nature to Bruce.

So that, and the social uprising, the terror, the emotive horror in his eyes, the conquerer, the dictator, all those things, along with what he means to that character and how it means so much more than The Joker frankly ever could, is why I think Bane is, objectively, a much better villain than his predecessor.

-Vader

 

[Uroboric Forms]

50 SHADES OF BANE

I get to trademark it first dammit!

...Already beaten you to that one, friendo

 

[freecake4me]

The thing I was taken by was the structure of the voice and why they did it that way? i exemplified those thoughts in some satire (i feel this is relevent but if the mod's think its in the wrong place please remove it )



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF_qoQRQEAM

 

[dark_b]

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=21317203&postcount=197

 

[dark_b]

 

[Baneis8feettall]

Did Tom Hardy have to play Bane? Any bigger pro wrestler type could have pulled it off.

Pro wrestlers can't even wrestle let alone act. t:

 

[Art Damage]

Everytime I hear Bane go..."Not as much as yours..." when getting ready to fight Batman in the sewer I always think "Oh ****...here we go" to myself.

 

[Baneis8feettall]

Bane and Batman has another common!

Bane lost his face and friendzoned while Batman lost his "good ol Bruce" face and friendzoned in end of BB. t:

 

[aeioulul]

Everytime I hear Bane go..."Not as much as yours..." when getting ready to fight Batman in the sewer I always think "Oh ****...here we go" to myself.

Bats to Catwoman: You've made a serious mistake.

Bane: Not as serious as yours, I fear.

Bats: Bane!

Bane: Let's not stand on ceremony here, Mr. Wayne!

 

[Art Damage]

Yeah! Thats the dialogue, man...I got goosebumps just reading that.

 

[Baneis8feettall]

Everytime I hear Bane go..."Not as much as yours..." when getting ready to fight Batman in the sewer I always think "Oh ****...here we go" to myself.

I wonder how the people,who had no idea Bane did in comics, and didn't watch trailers experienced that part of the scene?

The movie build up that scene (showing Bane is a monster, Batman was weak already) but still it must be terrifying. Knowing batman has no super powers and movie is quite realistic.He is almost toyed by Bane and later gets broken.

For example my family members had no idea Harvey's face gets destroyed and he'll be gruesome looking maniac at the end. They were like "HOLY ****!" t:

 

[eganoipse]

I was definitely fearing the worst after reading that they had re-dubbed Hardy's voice for the Prologue...but after finally seeing the film, I have to say that personally I was relieved; it wasn't bad at all IMO. I liked the original mechanized quality from December, but I don't feel that the new version detracted from the impact in any way. But that's probably because I was expecting it to be horrendous. I can imagine that hearing it for the first time without that knowledge was a little jarring for people - it's all just a matter of perspective.

Bane's voice makes me think of Mike Tyson in his prime. Tyson's voice was so comical and easy to make fun of; it didn't suit him at all. You can make fun of Bane's inflections, the high pitches, the odd delivery, the weird aristocratic English quality, etc. but he would still physically destroy anyone in his path. I think it's what makes him all the more menacing. For me it's a perfect fit.....even in the Prologue.

 

[aeioulul]

I was definitely fearing the worst after reading that they had re-dubbed Hardy's voice for the Prologue...but after finally seeing the film, I have to say that personally I was relieved; it wasn't bad at all IMO. I liked the original mechanized quality from December, but I don't feel that the new version detracted from the impact in any way. But that's probably because I was expecting it to be horrendous. I can imagine that hearing it for the first time without that knowledge was a little jarring for people - it's all just a matter of perspective.

Bane's voice makes me think of Mike Tyson in his prime. Tyson's voice was so comical and easy to make fun of; it didn't suit him at all. You can make fun of Bane's inflections, the high pitches, the odd delivery, the weird aristocratic English quality, etc. but he would still physically destroy anyone in his path. I think it's what makes him all the more menacing. For me it's a perfect fit.....even in the Prologue.

Bane's voice sort of grows on you after a while.

 

[marcvader]

I mentioned this in another thread but last night at the theater I went to the volume was so loud that it was hard to make out about a third of what Bane said. Didn't have this issue in my prior viewing.