The Dark Knight Rises Tom Hardy as Bane

[Yurka]

^ Thats a cool idea Octoberist.

I dont think the venom is essential, just having him be able to best Batman physically would be enough for me.... but I would love to see some sort of venom.

 

[darknight7]

YES EXACTLY, that's totally what I had in mind (if he is part of the LoS) then of course they would have the ability to make Venom if they essentially made Fear Toxin in the first place

--dk7

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Venom wouldn't be out of place in this series at all. This series had fear toxins, a microwave emitter and a sonar that uses cellphones to map a 3D space,

 

[Majik1387]

It would just be a crazy steroid pretty much. Totally believable.

 

[darknight7]

It won't be the venom that's ignored, but maybe the way he consumes it. Like instead of a crazy visible tube going into the back of his head, maybe it will be inside of his suit or something? Or maybe he just injects needles like a regular steroid cycle? Who knows, but it will be in the movie.

--dk7

 

[D.P.]

It needs to sound like Anton Chigurh from Country for Old Men

--dk7

Thank you, I've been repeatedly saying this.

 

[jb007]

I trust Nolan will do an outstanding job with Bane's character. He has given me no reason at all to think he won't.

 

[JAK®]

He could be any nationality really, if he is a League of Shadows member perhaps he has a English or another european accent, Hell, an Indian accent even. IMO, "Physical" character traits are less important and are more adaptable than psychological character traits.

Okay, let's make Batman an eskimo, 5'4, 130 lbs and talk with a Scottish accent. As long as we get the psychology right, huh?

Bane's South American background doesn't scream necessity to get the character correctly. Does it to you? You would think it needs to be or it makes Bane less of a character or something. It's not like that at all. There could be better ideas out there for it. As long as they're good and done correctly. Whatever fits the story they're going for.

There should be fundamentels, as there are for every character. Nolan likes to twist things around for the villains, without losing the fundamentals of the characters themselves.

What does his accent say anything about him exactly? He could be any nationality or have any different accent. It doesn't change the quality of his character at all.

It is important and it isn't important. There is no reason to change his accent except for being different. I can't think of any story that would require him to have a different accent, and if they do think of one, then maybe they shouldn't have used Bane in the first place.

 

[Savage]

Okay, let's make Batman an eskimo, 5'4, 130 lbs and talk with a Scottish accent. As long as we get the psychology right, huh?

Hey, it worked for a 6'3 Australian Hugh Jackman.

 

[The Morningstar]

I'm very excited about this. Probably the main reason why I'm so hyped for this movie because I was disappointed by The Dark Knight. I understand i'm in the minority there though.

 

[Yurka]

Okay, let's make Batman an eskimo, 5'4, 130 lbs and talk with a Scottish accent. As long as we get the psychology right, huh?

You know thats not what I mean.

 

[JAK®]

You know thats not what I mean.

I know that's not what you want, but following your logic, it is what you mean.

 

[Yurka]

I know that's not what you want, but following your logic, it is what you mean.

Look, I said "Physical" traits, not necessarily referring to how they look, but more where they come from/how they sound. As long as Bane is able to physically best Batman, I dont care if his origin has him coming from Africa as a wild-game hunter. Those things are adaptable as I said. Where he comes from and how he sounds for God sakes, isn't necessarily essential to the character.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Okay, let's make Batman an eskimo, 5'4, 130 lbs and talk with a Scottish accent. As long as we get the psychology right,

Would he still a Batman voice with the Scottish accent? I'd watch it.

 

[JAK®]

Look, I said "Physical" traits, not necessarily referring to how they look, but more where they come from/how they sound. As long as Bane is able to physically best Batman, I dont care if his origin has him coming from Africa as a wild-game hunter. Those things are adaptable as I said. Where he comes from and how he sounds for God sakes, isn't necessarily essential to the character.

That still leaves the possibility of an Eskimo Batman with a Scottish accent, following your logic.

Define 'essential', anyway. I'd say that having a recognisable Bane is essential. Being South American is part of that package. Sure, it doesn't sound important to the story, but is it detrimental to the story? No? Then why change it?

 

[Octoberist]

Because Bane's background is mysterious and slightly exotic, I wouldn't mind if he had an accent but the movie didn't really address it. Or perhaps, Bruce would try to detect his accent and can't.

"He sounds South American or Spanish but I cannot detect the dialect."

 

[Octoberist]

Because Bane's background is mysterious and slightly exotic, I wouldn't mind if he had an accent but the movie didn't really address it. Or perhaps, Bruce would try to detect his accent and can't.

"He sounds South American or Spanish but I cannot detect the dialect."

 

[JAK®]

Because Bane's background is mysterious and slightly exotic, I wouldn't mind if he had an accent but the movie didn't really address it. Or perhaps, Bruce would try to detect his accent and can't.

"He sounds South American or Spanish but I cannot detect the dialect."

That wouldn't suck too much.

But, why do that? Why are we creating scenarios that avoid confirming Bane as South American at all costs?

 

[Yurka]

double post

 

[Yurka]

That still leaves the possibility of an Eskimo Batman with a Scottish accent, following your logic.

Define 'essential', anyway. I'd say that having a recognisable Bane is essential. Being South American is part of that package. Sure, it doesn't sound important to the story, but is it detrimental to the story? No? Then why change it?

Sure, is that going to happen? No, of course not.
But a B-list villain who already comes from a foreign place? Interchanging where he comes from is much less important than changing Batman's origins. No one would dare touch Batman's origin because he's been around so long, is so loved and coveted, and its pretty much written in stone how he came to be, but a lower-level villain who was created about 15 years ago still has room for interpretation, IMO.

What would be the difference between having him grow up in a prison in the UK? As long as the base history is there (serving life sentences for father etc.) My point is he doesnt need to be South American, you can apply it to many other nationalities. I like that he's South American, its different and it gives him an interesting aspect, but it could be applied to numerous other nations.

 

[the amazing fro]

What would be the difference between having him grow up in a prison in the UK? As long as the base history is there (serving life sentences for father etc.) .

Yeah I think a child serving a life sentence for one of his parents is sorta illegal in this country lol.

 

[JAK®]

Sure, is that going to happen? No, of course not.
But a B-list villain who already comes from a foreign place? Interchanging where he comes from is much less important than changing Batman's origins. No one would dare touch Batman's origin because he's been around so long, is so loved and coveted, and its pretty much written in stone how he came to be, but a lower-level villain who was created about 15 years ago still has room for interpretation, IMO.

What would be the difference between having him grow up in a prison in the UK? As long as the base history is there (serving life sentences for father etc.) My point is he doesnt need to be South American, you can apply it to many other nationalities. I like that he's South American, its different and it gives him an interesting aspect, but it could be applied to numerous other nations.

What would be the difference? He wouldn't be South American.

It wouldn't change the story but it would be one glaring difference that separates comic Bane from movie Bane. An unnecessary change. Unnecessary changes annoy me, because it shows a lack of respect for the source material.

You say "What would be the difference?", I say "Why should it be different?"

 

[JAK®]

Yeah I think a child serving a life sentence for one of his parents is sorta illegal in this country lol.

It doesn't matter, as long as it's foreign

 

[Dark Knight]

Sigh.

Some of you just don't pay attention do you?

Nolan said himself when confirming Hardy is Bane, that they were excited to bring a new interpretation of Bane for this final Nolan Bat film.

So expect a slightly different or whole new version of Bane, than the ones we have seen before.

 

[JAK®]

Sigh.

Some of you just don't pay attention do you?

Nolan said himself when confirming Hardy is Bane, that they were excited to bring a new interpretation of Bane for this final Nolan Bat film.

So expect a slightly different or whole new version of Bane, than the ones we have seen before.

I'm expecting 'slightly different', what this argument is about and what Nolan will actually do are two different things.

I just don't see why Bane shouldn't be South American. That's my position.