Apocalypse X-Men: Apocalypse Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 1

[marvelrobbins]

well i think people soon will be stop trying to claim DOFP success had nothing to do with original cast and was more Jennifer Lawrence.

unfotully getting original cast again isn't an opotion with Jackman leaving after wolverine.hell they are putting a mostly new cast for final wolverine solo film.

If it makes 600 Million WW and fox feels that is good enough to continue with
present plans they may be cutting budgets for future X-men films.One result
could be fox doesn't think it's worth it offering lawrence big salary to come
back.

 

[MadVillainy]

Officially listed budgets are BS. Never take them to heart. Ever.

I know. That's why "every" budget was reported at 150 mill


So...what's the budget for this again?

 

[kguillou]

No it wouldn't. You're comparing the last film's grosses which was abnormally high from the series' standard, and they know this. They're fully aware that was the novelty of both casts together and, more importantly, a proper X-Men 4. Like The Fast & the Furious 4 after Tokyo Drift (which fans swear is the best and their favorite one... even though they didn't show up and it tanked commercially/critically) and then going back to the latter cast again after the box-office boost. They know what to expect and have their own estimations of success or disappointment.

As long as this stays in the same arena overseas as Days of Future Past, Fox is happy. Why do you think they were pleased with The Wolverine's numbers when it was such a disappointment stateside?

Eh, I respectfully disagree. I think Fox is expecting this movie to be the first billion dollar Xmen film. The higher budget, the grand spectacle, I think they are aiming at making this a huge blockbuster to cross them into Avengers territory.

Also, fans say Fast Five is the best one not Fast and Furious 4. And they did show up for that one.

 

[psylockolussus]

Fox expecting this to be a billion dollar movie would be quite silly. First, Wolverine only appears in the movie for like 5% of it and he's not a big part of the marketing. Then like someone said, there's no novelty here, a lot of the characters here are just younger version of the ones that we saw in the original trilogy and DOFP (the future portion). And the "grand spectacle".... not really. I thought there would be more 1 on 1 fights but most of it were just saved for the climax.

 

[MadVillainy]

Anyone who expected it to reach a billion was being quite silly imo.

I get that people love X-Men. I Do to. BUt there was no evidence that this would make a billion

 

[psylockolussus]

It doesn't have the cross-over appeal like Civil War/BvS had. And it just looks like another X-Men prequel with more action and a new villain.

 

[Iceman]

Anyone who expected it to reach a billion was being quite silly imo.

I get that people love X-Men. I Do to. BUt there was no evidence that this would make a billion

If there was evidence I don't think we'd even need any speculation! t:

 

[MadVillainy]

It doesn't have the cross-over appeal like Civil War/BvS had. And it just looks like another X-Men prequel with more action and a new villain.

Exactly

 

[psylockolussus]

If this was like X-Men v X-Force.... maybe... but they didn't feature the cast from the original trilogy.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Anyone who expected it to reach a billion was being quite silly imo.

I get that people love X-Men. I Do to. BUt there was no evidence that this would make a billion

No one expected it to make a billion

 

[kguillou]

But you guys dont think that the studio heads, seeing what DOFP did, (quarter of a billion $$) giving Singer a bigger budget , expected this film to push the billion dollar stratosphere? I think they did.

 

[psylockolussus]

When they ditched the original cast for younger version and bring back the X-Men in the past again when they just resurrected Jean/Cyclops/Beast/Rogue in the present? Nope.

 

[GuestStar2004]

But you guys dont think that the studio heads, seeing what DOFP did, (quarter of a billion $$) giving Singer a bigger budget , expected this film to push the billion dollar stratosphere? I think they did.

They were stupid then because most people here didn't think it would crack a billion because it was against alice through the looking glass which is a sequel to a movie that did crack a billion and while alice 2 is not doing well critically fox had no reason to know that.

Surely fox are not that dumb.

 

[ImSGirl95]

No one expected it to make a billion

There are 12 votes here who vote "1 billion +"

 

[thecatacombs]

Anything less than DOFP would be considered a disappointment and everyone here is fooling themselves if they think Fox isn't expecting this to make more money than DOFP.

 

[Weather Witch]

There are 12 votes here who vote "1 billion +"

Just because fans can be a bit delusional doesn't mean the studio is. A better movie in a better release window could've outgrossed DOFP. But I don't really see that happening with this movie and this release date. It does depend on how it does overseas though. I am expecting a drop domestically, but overseas might make up for that or least partly.

Anything less than DOFP would be considered a disappointment and everyone here is fooling themselves if they think Fox isn't expecting this to make more money than DOFP.

Originally maybe. But when they saw what this movie was up against (as far as competitions goes) they probably lowered their expectations.

 

[ImSGirl95]

Originally maybe. But when they saw what this movie was up against (as far as competitions goes) they probably lowered their expectations.

But why would they?
I mean, they spend more money on this movie than on DoFP.
Why would they spend more if they know it will make less.
And considering the X-Men franchise hasn't had strong legs, like .. who knows when, I am really surprised at their confidence.
And pulling the reviews embargo that early ...

 

[TheNewSlayer]

I only expect for the movie to make more than Deadpool did.

 

[superweirdo87]

I think Fox may have been hoping for high 700s or 800. One thing that's worth remembering are hidden costs like cast members who get money on the back end according to gross. There may be fewer gross players with Apocalypse than DOFP.

The movie's gross will disappoint them.

With the embargo, it does open earlier internationally. They may have also figured it was better to get bad buzz out sooner, so it was old news when the movie released.

 

[RLAAMJR.]

No one expected it to make a billion

I want it to reach $1 billion.

 

[RLAAMJR.]

But this movie should certainly reach more than $800 million.

 

[Samarus]

But this movie should certainly reach more than $800 million.

Well, the first numbers coming out of France are really discouraging. Only a slightly better OD than First Class and way worse than DOFP. Right now I'd be happy with anything over 600 million ww.

 

[RLAAMJR.]

Well, the first numbers coming out of France are really discouraging. Only a slightly better OD than First Class and way worse than DOFP. Right now I'd be happy with anything over 600 million ww.

That's ok. Let's be optimistic.

 

[Altie]

Well, the first numbers coming out of France are really discouraging. Only a slightly better OD than First Class and way worse than DOFP. Right now I'd be happy with anything over 600 million ww.

Well, french reviews about XMA are spectacularly bad... Including among comicbook fans

 

[GuestStar2004]

With the embargo, it does open earlier internationally. They may have also figured it was better to get bad buzz out sooner, so it was old news when the movie released.

Not sure it works that way