Apocalypse X-Men: Apocalypse Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 2

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How would it save them money? they would still be paying the same amount
Making a period films cost extra money because you need to use money to set a film in another era. This before we get into the obvious commercial aspects lost on period films. It is exactly why Bond is "timeless".
 
He doesn't make bad movies often. But his general aesthetic and approach to the X-Men has turned off many from the start. People like to use to blame Fox for that, but his last two films have shown that to just not be the case.

First Class focuses on Charles and Erik. It also explores their relationship and actually gives their opposing philosophies some actual footing. It isn't just something that happens because that is the way it is. Their mythic chess game is actually a thing. With two well formed characters who have a geniune relationship, that is bigger then anything Singer had brought to the table in that regard. Who spends most of his time playing up the loner aspect of these characters (Rogue and Logan), and forcing drama ala Jean and Logan.

And Vaughn does a lot with the other characters in their big scenes. Stuff like the kids' naming themselves, the push and pull of Charles and Erik on Raven, the training montage, etc. His directing and editing skills allowed for him to get more out of these scenes then most director's would. It isn't just a training montage, it is a character piece for Hank that sets his relationship with Charles.

Also Vaughn gets credit for simply having an X-Men movie where Charles actually teaches some kids something. 4 movies with Singer, and he apparently doesn't realize that Charles is a teacher to a group of mutant badasses who need assistance in controlling those powers.

It is sort of tough when you have the older OT class, who are acting as teachers themselves. We do get a good bit more of mentor Xavier here. I did like his scenes with Scott and Jean.
 
You're very quick to go to 'doom and gloom'.

The weekend isn't even over with yet - we're on the Saturday daytime - and you're already ringing the bells of doom.

Whatever happens, they will deal with it. Singer is taking a break anyway, and there's a whole array of other projects coming or lined up: X Force, New Mutants, Deadpool 2, Wolverine 3, Gambit...

A more scaled-down approach for the next X-Men film would be a good idea anyway. Less of the CGI and epic setpieces. And if Mystique and Magneto sit the next one out, it would be cheaper too.

X-men films always do less than projections with it now down 74 million for projection it's time for those who actully like X-men films,including Apocalypse,except for deadpool to panic.

At this rate singer won't be taking a break.he's done with X-men.Fox is likely to blame him while keeping kinberg on as writer and producer.

after wolverine solo film hits in march the only one to really count on at this point is deadpool sequel.the next X-men film will be lucky to get the budget of 160 million First class got.

considering how studios react a reboot is not a crazy thought.and i don't even want one.

even if they don't reboot i think lawrence is done with X-men.I don't see why
after this why fox would pay big bucks to get her back.
 
Your "evidence" of reboot trigger happy studios is limited to ONE. Sony. Who is having far bigger financial issues than Fox is. This series has been too profitable in the past for them to dismiss it and just reboot it
 
It is sort of tough when you have the older OT class, who are acting as teachers themselves. We do get a good bit more of mentor Xavier here. I did like his scenes with Scott and Jean.
One, they decided to go that old with the "team", which is fine. But then they also decided on storylines that involving Charles either a) incapacitated or b) destroying or removing the school from the story. There are students there, and they still don't have Charles mentor them in any meaningful way. Just talk cryptically to Logan.
 
You're very quick to go to 'doom and gloom'.

The weekend isn't even over with yet - we're on the Saturday daytime - and you're already ringing the bells of doom.

Whatever happens, they will deal with it. Singer is taking a break anyway, and there's a whole array of other projects coming or lined up: X Force, New Mutants, Deadpool 2, Wolverine 3, Gambit...

A more scaled-down approach for the next X-Men film would be a good idea anyway. Less of the CGI and epic setpieces. And if Mystique and Magneto sit the next one out, it would be cheaper too.

The only Fox movie which a definite release date is Wolverine 3. Gambit has been pushed back. New Mutants and Deadpool are rumored to be 2018. Which would put X-force and any new X-Men movie for 2019 at the earliest.

It terms of CGI and epic sets, on one hand you want to see mutants let loose with their powers on the other hand, Fox Marvel movies don't seem to justify a high production cost.
 
Making a period films cost extra money because you need to use money to set a film in another era.
Deja frickin' vu
Thought we already went over this a couple months back.
 
X-men films always do less than projections with it now down 74 million for projection it's time for those who actully like X-men films,including Apocalypse,except for deadpool to panic.

At this rate singer won't be taking a break.he's done with X-men.Fox is likely to blame him while keeping kinberg on as writer and producer.

after wolverine solo film hits in march the only one to really count on at this point is deadpool sequel.the next X-men film will be lucky to get the budget of 160 million First class got.

considering how studios react a reboot is not a crazy thought.and i don't even want one.

even if they don't reboot i think lawrence is done with X-men.I don't see why
after this why fox would pay big bucks to get her back.
You make me look cheery. For this I thank you.
 
Even I'm not being doom and gloomy and I'm one of the harshest critics. I didn't even hate Apocalypse so there is no reason for me to be. marvelrobbins, I just don't see a hard reboot happening anytime soon.
 
Even I'm not being doom and gloomy and I'm one of the harshest critics. I didn't even hate Apocalypse so there is no reason for me to be. marvelrobbins, I just don't see a hard reboot happening anytime soon.
Still to see it, but I do love the majority of this cast. Maybe it has blinded me. :funny:
 
Your "evidence" of reboot trigger happy studios is limited to ONE. Sony. Who is having far bigger financial issues than Fox is. This series has been too profitable in the past for them to dismiss it and just reboot it

James bond was rebooted despite Die another day making ton of money and could be rebooted again after Spectre depending if Criag is done

WB was very reboot crazy when it came to DC heroes pre man of steel

Fox after FF2 underperformed in 2007 killed and third film as well as silver surfer film setting the stage for 2015 reboot disaster.Elektra bombing also killed any chance of daredevil sequel which was talked about after first film came out in 2003

and then there is sony after spider-man 3 and amazing spider-man 2.Apocalypse is now poised to make less than ASM2 did both domestic and WW.
 
The new guys have been fine. I can't see this getting rebooted. I think they'll go to the 90s as one last stop before we get to modern day X1 time. And from there they can build and introduce all the other core X-Men gradually.
 
Still to see it, but I do love the majority of this cast. Maybe it has blinded me. :funny:
I saw it on a whim, you'll probably go see it on a whim. You seem to like Singer more than I do so you'd probably dig it a little more than I did.
At this point a reboot wouldn't do anything.
Hard reboots are totally played out. The cast is good, get another writer and director and move forward.
 
X-Men set within the first decade of the turn of the century after the next one. :o
 
The next X-Men film is gonna take a bit hit even if the quality is up to par to DOFP and X2. It will take two well received X-Men films to get it back with audiences.

If Fox wants to keep this series going and fresh they need to bank on X-Force and make sure that script is good. That's a natural transition for their new cash cow Mr Wilson and will be a more fresh take for the franchise that won't be affected by Apocalypse.

If they can play their cards right they can have a X-Force and X-Men crossover (which should have been Apocalypse) and grab audiences back in the masses that way.
 
At this point a reboot wouldn't do anything.
This is true. You would get a lot of, "really?".

My advice? Get a visionary director, who makes a film that is appealing on the very basic visual level. Invoke what most X-Men fans think of when they hear the name. Invoke the youth of those in the general audience that grew up with the show. Invite them to have fun.
 
At this point a reboot wouldn't do anything.

that is what many people want anyway.even here how many have said X-men needs a reboot.well jackman leaving and apocalypse underperforming may get
them what they want.

many people think reboot solves all problems.
 
that is what many people want anyway.even here how many have said X-men needs a reboot.well jackman leaving and apocalypse underperforming may get
them what they want.

many people think reboot solves all problems.
Projecting much? :funny:
 
And many, including myself, do not believe that a reboot will solve all of the problems.
 
I didn't expect to like the young cast but between them they have got me excited for future instalments.
 
Im not just saying this because I think a reboot is the way to go, but i dont think it'll really "confuse" the audience more than they already are in general about a lot of these movie properties
 
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