Apocalypse X-Men: Apocalypse Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 5

[psylockolussus]

Yes deep. You have a problem with James performance now? Anything else?

There's nothing deep abut Xavier crying when Apocalypse is choking Mystique. Its a natural human reaction. If thats your definition of deep then okay. And no I wasn't reacting to James McAvoy's performance.

 

[Zarex]

Lol yet his movie is the lowest grossing in the entire franchise including the solo Wolverine films.

First Class was well received by both critics and audiences alike, repairing much of the franchise damage done by the two prior films in the series and setting the stage for future BO growth. Lol.

 

[kevork89]

There's nothing deep abut Xavier crying when Apocalypse is choking Mystique. Its a natural human reaction. If thats your definition of deep then okay. And no I wasn't reacting to James McAvoy's performance.

Yes three movies of emotion between Xavier and Mystique culminated in that moment where he could lose the one person he's loved his whole life. It isn't deep but just someone crying.

 

[psylockolussus]

Still not deep. Well I guess for you.

 

[def28]

First Class was well received by both critics and audiences alike, repairing much of the franchise damage done by the two prior films in the series and setting the stage for future BO growth. Lol.

Exactly. How can this even be ignored?

 

[Johnny-Oh]

First Class was well received by both critics and audiences alike, repairing much of the franchise damage done by the two prior films in the series and setting the stage for future BO growth. Lol.

Its still the lowest grossing of the franchise, it didn't repair anything since it didn't fix those movies, it may have helped fans be more hopeful about the franchise but it didn't have an affect on the GA who didn't even watch the film.

DOFP was the film that brought back interest in the franchise and actually repaired the damage done by Origins and TLS.

 

[BatsDC]

You gotta start somewhere^

First Class was necessary for bringing good will back to the franchise. It was never going to be huge because the movies that preceded it were **** in the eyes of the GA (although to be fair I enjoy X3 in a kinda turn your brain off and enjoy the fun kinda way)

 

[psylockolussus]

Box-office wise, First Class didn't really do much but I guess, word of mouth got better with the franchise especially in online sites and the people that saw the movie.

 

[def28]

There was alot of negativity with First Class until the film was released, it greatly switched the opinion of the X-Men franchise which was at it's lowest after X-Men Origins.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

You gotta start somewhere^

First Class was necessary for bringing good will back to the franchise. It was never going to be huge because the movies that preceded it were **** in the eyes of the GA (although to be fair I enjoy X3 in a kinda turn your brain off and enjoy the fun kinda way)

Yeah and I agree with that but that effect is limited for fans, people like us who are interested in movies rather than the GA. The comment I replied claimed it was a mistake to bring Bryan Singer back even though DOFP grossed twice as much of what FC made, he also claimed the franchise was over due to the disappointing box office which makes no sense since FC made a lot less money anyway. That whole comment was absurd all around.

 

[Havok83]

Lol yet his movie is the lowest grossing in the entire franchise including the solo Wolverine films.

X3 and Wolverine both damaged the franchise so it's understandable that FC didn't do so well. People were burned out and lost faith in the X films

 

[henzINNIT]

Yes three movies of emotion between Xavier and Mystique culminated in that moment where he could lose the one person he's loved his whole life. It isn't deep but just someone crying.

Beyond just Mystique, it's all of his students too. That was a defining Xavier moment, his utter despair at not being able to help. He instantly tried to turn himself over just to spare them any more pain, and was tortured by the knowledge that he couldn't ... Think I shed a manly tear or too. Most powerful part of the film for me.

I can only imagine how emotional it would have been if I was more onboard with the rest of the film.

 

[StormC]

So... what's the ceiling for this movie now? How much past 500 million can it get?

Why does this board constantly have to bring up the MCU in a negative light to try and make themselves feel better? It's horribly consistent. Heck, this board even thrashes Deadpool. It's just wreaking of jealousy at this point. X-Men could be your favorite comic series, and you can be ecstatic about First Class, The Wolverine and Deadpool but talk **** about one of the worst received films in the series Apocalypse an you are a "mcu fanatic" hahaha.

People feel the need to punch up at more successful series. BVS board is the same way.

 

[JEM]

I say take a break, do some hardcore reassessment, and bring in a new creative team. Abandon the time jumps. Focus on the young X-Men, and stop emphasizing the Xavier V. Magneto conflict so much.

It's not just one disappointment. It's 3 films with X-Men in the title within the past ten years. This particular film will hurt the next film called X-Men significantly, even if it gets high reviews. It is going to have to work it's way up again unless it looks or is called something completely different. Even DOFP's success and positive reaction wasn't enough to help Apocalypse.

This is just as bad if not worse then ASM's situation. The only positive light is Deadpool's success will keep it going with confidence. The main IP needs to switch things up, they have no other choice.

Like Drew McWeeny said, X Franchise is a unique situation for Fox.

ASM 2 was a sequel, second part of trilogy so they were f***. It was difficult to continue with the hate. Whereas XA is conclusion of sorts to the second X-Men trilogy and the beginning of new era. It would have been problematic if audience loved Xavier/Magneto/Mystique and hated the new cast in XA. But, it's the opposite.

Before BVS, Warners said DCEU will be dark and gritty but they changed plan and bring Geoff Johns. It is 180 degree.
Before XA, it seems the plan was to developp others caracters with spin-off and focus on then main team with more colorul costumes. So, i dont think you will see big change.

If you look others project (New Mutant, Deadpool 2, Gambit, Wolverine 3) you have producers Kinberg/Donner and differents writers/director.
So i think it will be the model for the next X Men movie. XA US BO could be disappointed for Fox but they have a lot of possibility two and it is new for them.

Drew McWeeny s' video is very interesting

http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/review-x-men-apocalypse-should-please-fans-but-its-awfully-familiar-fare

"I think they have a lot of option on the table and that they wanted"
"Tom Rothman 's vision was small and thx Kinberg/Donner/Singer all the option are on the table"

ASM wasn't in this position at Sony. They have the right plan but they should just make the right decision for the future.
The big question is Singer, he wants a break but after XA, i don't think he wants direct anymore or soon.

 

[def28]

Spider-Man wanted an expanded universe as well. And it's box office only sank about 50m away from ASM 1. Thing with that franchise is Sony knows it can do alot more. Maybe ASM3 would have been awesome, who knows. Fox has a good deal with Marvel now though and Spidey has more appeal in Civil War with a larger audience. More people seeing your film is ultimately the point after all. I still think the damage done in the past three Spidey films will stop the new one from reaching the IP's potential, but who knows.

Fox with the exception of Deadpool finally, has not moved out of their comfort zone. We have no idea how their expanded films will go. Kinberg has not exactly installed confidence with Fant4stic and Apocalypse.

We are just now finally getting to Cyclops and he was not marketed as a lead here...

Like Drew McWeeny said, X Franchise is a unique situation for Fox.

ASM 2 was a sequel, second part of trilogy so they were f***. It was difficult to continue with the hate. Whereas XA is conclusion of sorts to the second X-Men trilogy and the beginning of new era. It would have been problematic if audience loved Xavier/Magneto/Mystique and hated te new cast in XA. But, it's the opposite.

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Those kids are now attached to one of the worst of the series though. The domestic box office did not do well for them. While I'm sure they could, they are not proven to carry a full narrative without the help of Lawrence, Mcavoy and Fassbender leading the way.

The characters with the exception to Quicksilver did not bring audiences in. This is sadly what happens when you leave Cyclops out of a main role for a series that has been around for 16 years. Psylocke and Quicksilver were the ones leading the most anticipated characters in polls, and they dropped the ball on her. Which unless somebody actually does something with her soon, will hurt her appeal as well.

Cyc and crew need a good and different X-Men film. While they can use the same crew they are gonna have to start from scratch and work their way uphill again. Apocalypse introduced them, but did no favors as its' losing some of the X-Men fanbase. They mess up again, and this new crew is pretty much done sadly. The good thing is this series has so many options with the films you mentioned, but main film wise they really need to tread carefully.

 

[SuperT]

Lol yet his movie is the lowest grossing in the entire franchise including the solo Wolverine films.

It was also coming off the back of the franchise killing X3 and Origins, so yea he had a lot working against him. Yet he still produced a quality movie that put more confidence in people and started the ball rolling into DoFP.

 

[YoungBlood]

Why does this board constantly have to bring up the MCU in a negative light to try and make themselves feel better? It's horribly consistent. Heck, this board even thrashes Deadpool. It's just wreaking of jealousy at this point. X-Men could be your favorite comic series, and you can be ecstatic about First Class, The Wolverine and Deadpool but talk **** about one of the worst received films in the series Apocalypse an you are a "mcu fanatic" hahaha.

We have seen this happen before with this series and others. The franchise isn't dead, but it needs to make changes so it can be more successful. X-Men is better then this and Apocalypse will do the next film no favors. As a fan of X-Men I want it to be more successful and rich with it's character development.

What's to argue? You guys rather have a mediocre reception and a falling box office? Cause that's what you are defending, and X-Men as an IP won't benefit from that at all.

What, we can't compare/contrast franchises?
What's the point of discussing films if you can't do that?

 

[def28]

What, we can't compare/contrast franchises?
What's the point of discussing films if you can't do that?

You realize there is a difference between calling names in a bias fashion and actually comparing a film with no specific fanboy studio war agenda in mind right?

People on here constantly whine about people bringing up the MCU, yet they are the ones always bringing it up and are just as guilty.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

People didn't see First Class in theaters because of how bad X3 & Wolverine were. I know I didn't go and I'm the biggest X-Men fan around.

 

[jaymes_e06]

Some people are just as defensive about the MCU as they are claiming us to be on the Xverse.Why does it effect you if I didn't like something you did if you constantly throw jabs at something I like?

 

[def28]

How about people just stop the bs on both sides cause it is old? Two wrongs don't make a right. A few seem to think otherwise.

 

[YoungBlood]

How about people just stop the bs on both sides cause it is old?

That's rival fandoms for you, it will never stop.

 

[def28]

That's rival fandoms for you, it will never stop.

Most like or want to like both.

The cheap labeling is what's frustrating, and things have gotten worse on that with this films reception. I have seen very supportive X-Men fans on here for years get lumped into a negative MCU fanboy label, just cause they didn't like this film and want things changed.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

Some people are just as defensive about the MCU as they are claiming us to be on the Xverse.Why does it effect you if I didn't like something you did if you constantly throw jabs at something I like?

I honestly wish X-Men Movie characters were treated with the same love and respect as MCU characters. I'm extremely jealous that they have fans making their movies and costume's.


Guess I'll just rewatch Deadpool again

 

[YoungBlood]

I honestly wish X-Men Movie characters were treated with the same love and respect as MCU characters. I'm extremely jealous that they have fans making their movies and costume's.


Guess I'll just rewatch Deadpool again

Bye Felicia.