Apocalypse X-Men Apocalypse News and Discussion - Part 1

[CyclopsWasRight]

I like you very much

 

[psylockolussus]

so basically Avengers fans get a huge universe, DC fans will get theirs, Spiderman fans will get it too.... everyone except X-Men fans.
exciting.

Well we already have 7 X-Men films, then 8 by 2016, 9 by 2017 and probably 10 by 2018. Thats a quite a lot! Plus X-Men being the longest running comic-book film series (that hasn't been rebooted) is a big plus!

I'm not gonna feel bad for this franchise when MCU gets to their 20th film or the DCCU (that just started with MOS) gets to their 10th film in 2020, while X-Men would be releasing their 11th or 12th X-Men film in 2020.

 

[hoy-small-fry]

I'd take a steady burn rate over 2 a year any day. It makes every X-Men film feel like an event, whereas the MCU has a year-round presence.

 

[psylockolussus]

I just think Fox/Donners and company don't need to pressure themselves and rush greenlighting films for new properties just because the other studio succeeded in making films with lesser-known characters. If they rush films into production just to get some quick money and the quality of the film isn't very good (well, we could be getting that in Fantastic Four next year, but I'll remain optimistic for now so whatevs), fans would lose confidence to them again and rant about their work again and of course in return, thats another bad PR. Fox just announced the 2017/2018 release dates this March of 2014. If Deadpool goes to production because of the online demand for it, then good, but if we hear nothing about it this year, oh well. Plus its not like they just hired Matt Reeves or writer/director with a very good track record for Deadpool or X-Force and nothing is happening.

 

[Mariah]

I still think Apoc is too big of a villain to simply get beaten in a one and done movie. It's the same problem Feige and co will have with Thanos, but at least he's had a significant build-up. I've love a temporary solution, which leaves X5 or another prequel down the line where he returns

I don't know if they'll do this yet but it's a thought.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Not sure if it means anything but TMNT 2 comes out a week after this one.

 

[HIA]

Apocalypse now has a bad release date. 2 weeks before comes a Marvel movie and 1 week later a DC one, so all of this will hurt both movies.

edited: my mistake, this is the 2018 Fox movie.

 

[Saitou Hajime]

Debuting on the same week as Alice 2 was bad enough, but getting Turtles 2 on the following week is even worse. And there's not really that many spots it can be pushed back to.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Why do people think APocalypse should move? They sure don't have much faith In Apocalypse.

WB Is being called chicken by running away their event film from Cap 3.They also showed if DIsney/MS have release date for any future film against one of future DC films they will
run from it.

The next planet of the apes film Is coming In last friday In July so Apocalypse will likely
stay where It Is at.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

It was pretty obvious to me that WB would flinch. They are the studio trying to jump start their film universe while Marvel has already done so to great success. Why did people think they would budge for the new kids on the block? BvS underperforming would be a bigger blow to an upstart universe then Cap 3 underperforming in a firmly established one.

 

[kasjan]

Whats the problem with Apocalypse and the end of DOFP

Mystique takes care of Logan.

 

[Dr. Remy Lebeau]

I don't think the film needs to move, but it would be nice for it to get an opening where it's not in direct competition with another big blockbuster (Through the Looking Glass). I think it should open in early April!

 

[Saitou Hajime]

Why do people think APocalypse should move? They sure don't have much faith In Apocalypse.

I don't call pragmatic business sense being unfaithful to your product. Apocalypse is opening at the same week and a week before two films that will probably overperform in the box office. An X-Men movie has enough problem with legs as it is, the last thing it needs is anymore help slowing it down.

I don't think the film needs to move, but it would be nice for it to get an opening where it's not in direct competition with another big blockbuster (Through the Looking Glass). I think it should open in early April!

And put itself in the crosshairs of even bigger juggernaut like BvS.

 

[Mr.M]

I don't know why they are deviating from the three year window. Just get some other spinoff sandwiched in there. What happened to X-Force? I would have liked to see X-Force late 2016 and Apocalypse May 2017. There isn't enough buildup right now. I think we need a filler movie, just like The Wolverine helped build hype for DoFP for almost a year, albeit it was only an after credit scene. But the difference here would be the filler film would be a prelude to Apocalypse. The only reason I thought they went 2016 was that much of the OT cast would still be featured. But if that's not the case, they should take the full three years. It could still get pushed back, but we'll see. We know for almost a fact that the FF sequel will never be made, so 2017 is open.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

I don't know why they are deviating from the three year window. Just get some other spinoff sandwiched in there. What happened to X-Force? I would have liked to see X-Force late 2016 and Apocalypse May 2017. There isn't enough buildup right now. I think we need a filler movie, just like The Wolverine helped build hype for DoFP for almost a year, albeit it was only an after credit scene. But the difference here would be the filler film would be a prelude to Apocalypse. The only reason I thought they went 2016 was that much of the OT cast would still be featured. But if that's not the case, they should take the full three years. It could still get pushed back, but we'll see. We know for almost a fact that the FF sequel will never be made, so 2017 is open.

No. We don't.

IMO no film should be a filler movie. It should exist to tell a story not fill a gap. But I agree it'd be great to have a new ongoing X-Universe series

 

[psylockolussus]

A filler movie could cost the momentum of the film. Maybe if X-Men got $300 million in the U.S., sure but no. And its not like they hyped X-Force in the film, what they hyped during the end of the film is Apocalypse.

 

[hoy-small-fry]

Let's be honest, given the critical panning TMNT is getting (and well justified), the sequel is hardly going to be a tentpole movie of the Summer, especially with X-Men preceding it. No need to move

 

[Saitou Hajime]

Let's be honest, given the critical panning TMNT is getting (and well justified), the sequel is hardly going to be a tentpole movie of the Summer, especially with X-Men preceding it. No need to move

This past weekend has shown that much like Transformers, TMNT's critical reception has no bearing on its ability to overperform at the box office. GOTG rivaled DOFP in terms of critical reception and OW gross, and its second weeked still took a significant hit due to the critically panned TMNT despite great weekdays beforehand.

Not to mention that they also had to simultaneously deal with the second weekend of TTLG (which they're already contending with on their debut weekend), another probable overperformer. And this is together with a X-Men film's traditionally poor performance legs-wise.

 

[hoy-small-fry]

DOFP had a very prolonged box office though, AND was very well received. I don't think FOX are in as bad a position commercially as many of you guys would have us believe...

 

[Zarex]

DOFP had a very prolonged box office though, AND was very well received. I don't think FOX are in as bad a position commercially as many of you guys would have us believe...

DOFP had some distinct advantages - return of the beloved OT cast, first appearance of Sentinels, time travel - that XM:A may not have. They have the right director, production team and cast in place, and momentum on their side as well. But with additional competition reaching DOFP numbers may be quite challenging.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

I think hyping up Apocalypse and the Horsemen would be as big or bigger than Sentinels + Tine-Trvel

 

[ciscostudent561]

I think hyping up Apocalypse and the Horsemen would be as big or bigger than Sentinels + Tine-Trvel

Exactly.
Realistically, how hyped they get General Audience up about the movie I think will be the biggest attribution to its box office success.

Apocalypse has alot of things going for it.
He does beat Thanos and Darkseid to the silver screen in his own feature.


DOFP was great.
The big 3 Return. "young scott, Jean & Storm"
The other big 3 return. Jlaw and Co.

The largest scale.
Biggest potential for the most awesome VFX, fight scenes and power displays.


If they are able to capture the movie's grandeur in the previews and such... and can build enough hype around it.. then we gotta winner.

 

[hoy-small-fry]

I also doubt the GA were even aware of why Sentinels were important, let alone what they were. DOFP built from the cast

 

[Duran Man]

Michael Fassbender on what's next for Magneto in X-Men: Apocalypse

Though both First Class and Days of Future Past had separate overarching baddies, Magneto has remained, for the most part, a villain. When asked if he was looking forward to the prospect of going up against a character like Apocalypse, the actor responded, "Yeah, I mean, I haven't got a script or anything yet, but I'm always excited to see where Simon Kinberg's going to go with the next X-Men. X-Men's been great to me and allowed me to do so much, including films like Frank. I've had a lot of fun with the cast and with the character, Magneto. So I had a good chat with Simon [Kinberg] when we were on our way to Moscow, and we tossed around some ideas on the plane over there. So I'm pretty excited to see how it all comes together."

In these most recent iterations of the character, we've seen Magneto's backstory, what made him who he is. We've seen what drives him and how far he's willing to go when he feels that the Mutants are threatened. So the question becomes, where will the character go from here?

"Well, I can't really tell you," Fassbender laughed when we asked what he'd like to explore in the character next. "I want it to be in the next one! I've had these conversations with Simon and there's a certain strand of his story that I think is pretty interesting and would like to explore, if we could."

Ruler of Genosha?

 

[JP]

That coincides with something Kinberg said about being on a flight with Fassbender and getting an idea from him that he's going to incorporate into the next film. So it looks like Fassbender will get his wish, whatever story aspect that may be.