Apocalypse X-Men Apocalypse News and Discussion - Part 2

[psylockolussus]

I hope they'll go with Elle Fanning, with Cyclops, I don't know.

But I like that they are going with actors that look like teenagers!

 

[#root]

All three are great actresses, but would love it for it to be Steinfeld .

As for the guys, I only know about the Interstellar kid . They all look good for Cyclops, though.

 

[GuestStar2004]

The guys certainly are not marsden look alikes

 

[Super Jim]

I think this casting news supports my belief that they will be focusing on this new, young cast for the next "trilogy".

If Moretz (or the other two runner-ups) get the role it shows that they want a name for these parts. If it is a name actress (or actor for Scott) that means that the focus will be on these new, young actresses and actor. That means, like I've surmised, that most likely there will be a next "trilogy" and it will be focused on these new three, which is in the past and NOT in the OT!!!!!

 

[Mr.M]

I wonder if they will keep going in chronological order. Reagan era, Bush/Clinton/Bush administration. Not that I think the President will be in every X-Men movie. I would go as far as Clinton though, perhaps Bush if they want to touch upon 9/11 and bring terrorism into the picture, factoring in the mutant angle.

The most important thing is going to be to reinforce new, fascinating themes that avoid retreading old territory. That's what will determine what happens with the franchise. You can't just center these films around new villains. After Sinister, there won't be many A-list guys left.

And how do you make these characters applicable in a modern day context? The racism and segregation allegories have already played out. Certainly you can keep touching on that, but you can't keep falling back on it every movie.

You don't want the X-films falling into the trap of being a weekly TV series that just happens to have a 200 million dollar budget. There needs to be far reaching themes and implications in every movie. There needs to be commentary on modern society. It needs to dig deeper than a standard MCU blockbuster like Guardians.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I am starting to get suspecion the ending of DOFP could be ignored so they can do even more hard reboot.

Think about it.Famke Janssen Is dutch.All the actresses in running for jean are clearly american.That could be clue.They clearly aren't trying to find actor who could be seen as young James Marsden eather.

The ending of DOFP In future may have been nothing more to let fans of OT cast think they get happy ending,and now they are going to ignore the new future.They certinly don't seem to be concerned on finding actors who could be belied as younger versions of those seen in new future.

Hugh Jackman may be phased out as wolverine with smaller role In Apocalypse and next wolverine more self contained film based on Old man logan.After that they In second or third film In new trilogy sequel to FC trilogy can recast Wolverine.That Is bound to happen eventully.And they have already "rebooted" series.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I wonder if they will keep going in chronological order. Reagan era, Bush/Clinton/Bush administration. Not that I think the President will be in every X-Men movie. I would go as far as Clinton though, perhaps Bush if they want to touch upon 9/11 and bring terrorism into the picture, factoring in the mutant angle.

The most important thing is going to be to reinforce new, fascinating themes that avoid retreading old territory. That's what will determine what happens with the franchise. You can't just center these films around new villains. After Sinister, there won't be many A-list guys left.

And how do you make these characters applicable in a modern day context? The racism and segregation allegories have already played out. Certainly you can keep touching on that, but you can't keep falling back on it every movie.

You don't want the X-films falling into the trap of being a weekly TV series that just happens to have a 200 million dollar budget. There needs to be far reaching themes and implications in every movie. There needs to be commentary on modern society. It needs to dig deeper than a standard MCU blockbuster like Guardians.

They are going to stop jumping decade after each film as they have with FC trilogy.The next X-Men film after Apocalypse will likely be a couple of years after events of APocalypse.

With trilogy now erased as result of Time travel "Reboot" they have magneto
VS X-Men they can devolp,

 

[terry78]

I am starting to get suspecion the ending of DOFP could be ignored so they can do even more hard reboot.

Think about it.Famke Janssen Is dutch.All the actresses in running for jean are clearly american.That could be clue.They clearly aren't trying to find actor who could be seen as young James Marsden eather.

The ending of DOFP In future may have been nothing more to let fans of OT cast think they get happy ending,and now they are going to ignore the new future.They certinly don't seem to be concerned on finding actors who could be belied as younger versions of those seen in new future.

Hugh Jackman may be phased out as wolverine with smaller role In Apocalypse and next wolverine more self contained film based on Old man logan.After that they In second or third film In new trilogy sequel to FC trilogy can recast Wolverine.That Is bound to happen eventully.And they have already "rebooted" series.

LOL, Famke is about as Dutch as I am.

 

[marvelrobbins]

LOL, Famke is about as Dutch as I am.

She isn't american.And the ones under considerion for Apocalypse are.

 

[SuperT]

I am starting to get suspecion the ending of DOFP could be ignored so they can do even more hard reboot.

Think about it.Famke Janssen Is dutch.All the actresses in running for jean are clearly american.That could be clue.They clearly aren't trying to find actor who could be seen as young James Marsden eather.

The ending of DOFP In future may have been nothing more to let fans of OT cast think they get happy ending,and now they are going to ignore the new future.They certinly don't seem to be concerned on finding actors who could be belied as younger versions of those seen in new future.

Hugh Jackman may be phased out as wolverine with smaller role In Apocalypse and next wolverine more self contained film based on Old man logan.After that they In second or third film In new trilogy sequel to FC trilogy can recast Wolverine.That Is bound to happen eventully.And they have already "rebooted" series.

 

[chamber-music]

It isn't like Famke Janssen spoke Dutch or had a Dutch accent when she played Jean so I don't understand how the nationality of the actress playing the role is relevant.

 

[jed]

Seriously, I don't like any of those three choices for Jean.

As for the guys, I have never heard of them before. So I don't really care who they choose for Cyclops.

 

[Mr.M]

They are going to stop jumping decade after each film as they have with FC trilogy.The next X-Men film after Apocalypse will likely be a couple of years after events of APocalypse.

With trilogy now erased as result of Time travel "Reboot" they have magneto
VS X-Men they can devolp,

You can believe whatever you want, but I am more interested in how they intend to drive the story forward, rather than the time frame it takes place in. Logically, you would think they would ease on the time jumps because it wouldn't look realistic, but I am not sure they want to be stuck in the 80's for the next decade.

 

[henzINNIT]

Honestly only heard of Moretz out of those and I don't like her for Jean *shrugs*

Oh, and Famke being dutch has no relevence to anything. Of course they're going American for an American character.

 

[GuestStar2004]

People still age remember so if whatever 2 they pick did do another film they would be 2 or 3 years older by the time they filmed it

 

[Smilodon]

Moretz and or Steinfeld would be an incredible casting for Fox. Steinfeld more so than Moretz for her acting chops, but Moretz definitely has some big name value to her I think. Both would be a fantastic choice for Jean I think.

The Scott actors I have no clue for, but if this shortlist is right, it definitely means they're looking long-term for the big three post Apocalypse. (Not that it was ever in doubt)

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

You can believe whatever you want, but I am more interested in how they intend to drive the story forward, rather than the time frame it takes place in. Logically, you would think they would ease on the time jumps because it wouldn't look realistic, but I am not sure they want to be stuck in the 80's for the next decade.

X-Men has just as much history as the Marvel by themselves really. Fox just has to be bold enough like Disney was to explore it. The X-Men can goto the Savage Land for a movie. They can fight the Shiar they can fight the Brood or the Skrulls. The Shadow King or fighting X-Force the Hellfire Club can return and do Phoenix right. Hundreds of Mutants and variety of Teams like Excalibur/New Mutants could be smashes if done right.

 

[Super Jim]

They are going to stop jumping decade after each film as they have with FC trilogy.The next X-Men film after Apocalypse will likely be a couple of years after events of APocalypse.

With trilogy now erased as result of Time travel "Reboot" they have magneto
VS X-Men they can devolp,

^ Yes! I new I liked you marvelrobbins!

They need to stop the decade between each movie. Just change it to every 3 years (which coincides with the normal release of these movies), which allows these new, young actors and actresses to become the staples, along with McAvoy and others.

I agree that they should go forward with another "trilogy" as follows:

X-Men: Asteroid M - 2019 (takes place in say 1986)

Have Magneto create either Genosha, or better yet, Asteroid M (Avalon) during Apocalypse. This sets up the next movie.

Governments of the world are worried about Magneto. magneto has Alcolytes, including Cortez. Cortez is the real villain and the X-Men need to go to talk sense into Erik, but they uncover the situation and have to help him.

At the end, Magneto has "sacrificed" himself so everyone could be saved, going down with the ship, so to speak.

The X-Men have escaped in a shuttle and possibly, Jean has displayed a bit of celestial power.

The Shi'Ar show up and capture them. Or maybe they show up at the start of the next movie, again possibly because of Jean, or maybe due to Professor X's powers.

X-Men: The Shi'Ar

Shi'Ar homework with Lilandra, Deathbird, D'ken, etc. The Imperial Guard would be amazing.

Maybe D'Ken uses a techno transmode weapon (Phalanx).

Would Xavier stay with Lilandra?

X-Men: The Phalanx

Could be a good story.

Or maybe this is where they could get into the Dark Phoenix Saga.

 

[JP]

Yeah, the next trilogy may jump a few years after Apocalypse, but all three films in that series wont be a decade apart.

 

[Cherry]

You talk about the powers of the big three, but they will be able to use those powers in any movie that uses the young X-Men, so why go back to the OT?

My main point is that many want to see a young Storm, Jean and Scott. You yourself agreed to this.

Don't get me wrong. I want multiple movies with young Scott, Jean, and Ororo. I want both, really. Give us the new but continue to acknowledge the legacy. X-Men as a film franchise is in a position that IMO is completely unique.

I think my biggest issue, though, is having the X-Men's most powerful villain face off against inexperienced X-Men. Then again, maybe it could work because Jean would be super powerful without the mind blocks. I hope this is addressed.

I agree that they should go forward with another "trilogy" as follows:

X-Men: Asteroid M - 2019 (takes place in say 1986)

Have Magneto create either Genosha, or better yet, Asteroid M (Avalon) during Apocalypse. This sets up the next movie.

Governments of the world are worried about Magneto. magneto has Alcolytes, including Cortez. Cortez is the real villain and the X-Men need to go to talk sense into Erik, but they uncover the situation and have to help him.

At the end, Magneto has "sacrificed" himself so everyone could be saved, going down with the ship, so to speak.

The X-Men have escaped in a shuttle and possibly, Jean has displayed a bit of celestial power.

The Shi'Ar show up and capture them. Or maybe they show up at the start of the next movie, again possibly because of Jean, or maybe due to Professor X's powers.

X-Men: The Shi'Ar

Shi'Ar homework with Lilandra, Deathbird, D'ken, etc. The Imperial Guard would be amazing.

Maybe D'Ken uses a techno transmode weapon (Phalanx).

Would Xavier stay with Lilandra?

X-Men: The Phalanx

Could be a good story.

Or maybe this is where they could get into the Dark Phoenix Saga.

I really like your idea. It would be neat if the coming of Apocalypse somehow kickstarted a more cosmic element. For example, the extent of Apocalypse's power draws the attention of the Shi'Ar. That way we could have a good reason as to why the X-Men didn't cross paths with the Shi'Ar in the original timeline. Plus I really want to see Bryan Singer's take, albeit revised from his original vision, of the Dark Phoenix Saga.

 

[GuestStar2004]

i doubt we will ever see aliens or cosmic beings in this film series

i suspect the phoenix will always be just a very powerful mutant and apocalypse will be a very very powerful mutant too, or the very first mutant as singer once said he wanted to look at for the next one

this universe is to grounded in its own world for anything more

 

[EnDz0n3]

These actors NOT being Dutch has about as much relevance as Peter Dinklage NOT being African-American.

 

[747]

Fanning, Fanning! Great dramatic chops.

That guy from Interstellar was good in an albeit thin role.

 

[kasjan]

,,But I like that they are going with actors that look like teenagers!"
I like it too.

 

[psylockolussus]

They arent gonna ignore the happy future scene in Dofp unless they want to make another continuity error. Plus the movie is just so recent, its just gonna be messy if it happens. Even if they make multiple films with these new actors, they would still act as the younger version. And after the 1980s I dont think they should continue jumping forward to the 90s then 2000s. Like X1 is just set 20 years after Apocalypse like what Kinnbergsaid.