Apocalypse X-Men Apocalypse News and Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 31

[JEM]

If Singer is director again, the next movie will be out in 2019. If he is not, 2018 is a good possibility.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I think what they need to do is give the main "X-MEN" title a break. This is the end of the First Class trilogy and I think they should wait more than 2 years before they start the new one.

You'll have Storm showing up in New Mutants, you'll have a Deadpool sequel and possibly X-Force, maybe have another New Mutants style spinoff where Scott and Jean appear. Then we can get the new trilogy. I wouldn't be surprise if the next trilogy is all based around the Phoenix saga. Singer is a huge sci-fi/space nerd. If anyone can get cosmic wit the X-Men, it's him.

Here is the thing i expect there won't be main X-Men film after apocalypse till summer 2019.

I will bet this is going to be Fox's plan

wolverine film-march 3-2017-although who knows for how long film will be In contunity

Gambit-October 2017

Deadpool sequel-february 2018

The new mutants-July 2018

It would be intresting to see when in summer 2019 Fox puts next X-Men film.If Star Wars EPisode IX doesn't open till december 2019 Fox would likely try for memorial day 2019 if star wars does open for memorial day july is most obious place but fifth indiana Jones film opens In july and it's rumored the second marvel/Sony Spider-man film could come out in Summer 2019.

If summer 2019 is date for next X-Men film Singer could still direct it.20,000 leagues under the sea starts filming in fall and if for fox.That film could be coming fall or christmas 2017.

Ignoring my oporion on going cosmic it's important to remember everything we heard seems to be saying they are once again going with jean has great power withen her.It seems very,very unlikely they are going cosmic with phoenix.Also some's wolverine hate blind them to fact that not having wolverine at all In Dark Phoenix adaptian is just as bad as some of stupid decsions they made with Last Stand.

Also consider if Fox is detminded to bring back Jennifer Lawrence that could force Mystique Into team leader postion.That's even worse idea than some
ideas from Last Stand.And then what do they do with Magneto.He could fit in filling void of shaw as wanting to turn phoenix against X-Men but if they want to turn phoenix and dark phoenix into trilogy would they really go till final film without fassbender?Having both mystique and magneto among X-Men as they were to deal with cosmic threat is pretty sure to take some attention from other characters In X-Men.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Phoenix arc is a two part thing. It begins with the Phoenix Saga and ends with the Dark Phoenix Saga. If and when they adapt Phoenix into the films, it should not be crammed into one film. You have to do one with her rising as Phoenix and the second is about her downfall as DP

Well they could kill jean off again but i doubt it, and if they did it wouldn't end like X2 did for good reason

i think for a next movie they would have to offer some sort of gimmick or recognisable added story elements from other stories to help set up the phoenix story (Proteus), something that will keep it fresh,cool and grip the casual audience as if its like a story with lesser known characters from the phoenix saga that only the fans know... that may not be enough to be worth making it a 2 parter, it certainly needs to more to even come close to say infinity wars when it comes to hey we can trust this will work as a 2 parter and people will be so gripped and excited by the first they will wanna see the next one.

Its like DOFP and Apocalypse could easy have been a 2 parter but its very much not one, DOFP didn't end with apocalypse waking up, it was all very much saved for this movie

 

[JEM]

If i am not wrong, Singer wanted to make X3-X4 back to back because Phoenix Saga was to big.

 

[GuestStar2004]

If Singer is director again, the next movie will be out in 2019. If he is not, 2018 is a good possibility.

Well FC was 2011, DOFP was 2014 and apocalypse is 2016 so the time span between DOFP to apocalypse is shorter then FC to DOFP but i don't think that is down to vaughn or singer.

 

[GuestStar2004]

 

[GuestStar2004]

 

[GuestStar2004]

 

[jaymes_e06]

I wonder if that Jean Grey picture is real or photoshop.

 

[JEM]

If Fox want the next movie in 2018, they will not wait Singer. But, he seems to have good relationship with them. Maybe, he wants a break and direct 20 leagues under the sea first. We will see if Fox can wait or not but they have New Mutant, Deadpool ect...

 

[DACrowe]

Phoenix arc is a two part thing. It begins with the Phoenix Saga and ends with the Dark Phoenix Saga. If and when they adapt Phoenix into the films, it should not be crammed into one film. You have to do one with her rising as Phoenix and the second is about her downfall as DP. It wouldnt be a 4 hour movie broken up into 2 parts, but it would be a saga told with 2 distinct Acts which are standalone. It wouldnt end on a cliffhanger as the first should conclude and with jump in time when they get to the DPS

Agreed with this. I hope that is how they approach it, especially the standalone thing. I hate literal cliffhangers where one story is dragged out to four hours (side-eyes Harry Potter, Hunger Games, and potentially Infinity Wars). Time will tell.

 

[Smilodon]

Singer said he probably wouldn't do the next one since Apocalypse wore him out. 2 seems to be the limit for directors on these huge franchise pics. Wouldn't be surprised if Fox and Singer approached someone to take over the reins for awhile.

 

[DACrowe]

Well they could kill jean off again but i doubt it, and if they did it wouldn't end like X2 did for good reason

i think for a next movie they would have to offer some sort of gimmick or recognisable added story elements from other stories to help set up the phoenix story (Proteus), something that will keep it fresh,cool and grip the casual audience as if its like a story with lesser known characters from the phoenix saga that only the fans know... that may not be enough to be worth making it a 2 parter, it certainly needs to more to even come close to say infinity wars when it comes to hey we can trust this will work as a 2 parter and people will be so gripped and excited by the first they will wanna see the next one.

Its like DOFP and Apocalypse could easy have been a 2 parter but its very much not one, DOFP didn't end with apocalypse waking up, it was all very much saved for this movie

Yes, and they are called the Shi'Ar Empire and a cosmic adventure. We would clearly not be retreading the original trilogy if they did that.

 

[Erik Lensherr]

 

[marvelrobbins]

If i am not wrong, Singer wanted to make X3-X4 back to back because Phoenix Saga was to big.

yep he was thinking after X2 of doing 2 films back to back like matrix sequels and lord of the rings on Dark Phoenix.

With marvel doing that with infinity war and a lot of books being split into 2 films I wouldn't be surprised if they did that.

what some forget too is back in 2000 Singer mentioned to now defunct wizard magazine for poential sequels to X-men of using protues.and for those who
want ailens in X-Men films The brood was also mentioned.

Quicksilver in DOFP and some things with Cyclops and storm In Apocalypse show that he can have ideas and then eventully use them

 

[BlackFox]

Storm has never looked better.

 

[Mad Ones]

Phoenix trilogy:
Part 1: Space threat, Shi'ar, Phoenix saves the day.
Part 2: Hellfire Club (Mastermind and Selene), Phoenix destruction, resolved through telepathic blocks. Shi'ar return for Jean's trial/punishment as a cliff hanger.
Part 3: X-men vs. Imperial Guard.

That would be pretty faithful and I think it could work. I honestly don't think they'd go in this direction though. I'm open for different takes on the Phoenix. A defining moment of my fandom was watching TAS's Dark Phoenix Saga part 3, thinking it was resolved by the end but then the Shi'ar cliffhanger really brought the story to another level of epic. I'd love to see that feeling reproduced in the movies. The high stakes and the seemingly never-ending complications.

btw I like Kodi's Nightcrawler.

 

[kineticist]

If we get more than one movie devoted to Phoenix

 

[X-Maniac]

'Michael Fassbernder'??? wut, lol

 

[GuestStar2004]

The question really is what would make the Phoenix more interesting to split into 2 or 3 movies? How I could see it being is something like the first being a different story from the comics mixed with Phoenix saga in places and then the next one could be more Phoenix saga related, it just keeps things fresh with different qualities to each film.

As I said apocalypse could have been split into 2 like people kept saying but studios won't just split any movie into 2 if they ain't sure the 2 parter couldn't be huge.

 

[DACrowe]

Phoenix trilogy:
Part 1: Space threat, Shi'ar, Phoenix saves the day.
Part 2: Hellfire Club (Mastermind and Selene), Phoenix destruction, resolved through telepathic blocks. Shi'ar return for Jean's trial/punishment as a cliff hanger.
Part 3: X-men vs. Imperial Guard.

That would be pretty faithful and I think it could work. I honestly don't think they'd go in this direction though. I'm open for different takes on the Phoenix.

btw I like Kodi's Nightcrawler.

I support two separate and standalone movies. Firstly, because stretching things out always leads to bad results (hi again Harry Potter and Hunger Games!), and it would mean your second film would have no conclusion or catharsis.

Assuming this young cast does a fourth movie counting Apocalypse (apparently, they only signed to do three according to an interview), the one after the DPS film (which should not end with Jean dying), should be the team rebounding for an amazing earth adventure.

I am not against doing Sinister or Proteus. I just think if you spend two movies in space, all of a sudden fighting mutants on earth will be fun again. It is all about not sticking with the same thing too long, which the original three movies kind of did as one of their several major flaws by the third film.

 

[Takato]

If we get more than one movie devoted to Phoenix

Even if we get one movie on the Phoenix...that'll be splendid! X3 sidelined that story for the cure. Whlst the film acts as pure popcorn entertainment it really was an insult to the original Phoenix arc.

 

[2kt09]

Woah...so many users right now...what's new?

 

[Mad Ones]

I support two separate and standalone movies. Firstly, because stretching things out always leads to bad results (hi again Harry Potter and Hunger Games!), and it would mean your second film would have no conclusion or catharsis.

Assuming this young cast does a fourth movie counting Apocalypse (apparently, they only signed to do three according to an interview), the one after the DPS film (which should not end with Jean dying), should be the team rebounding for an amazing earth adventure.

I am not against doing Sinister or Proteus. I just think if you spend two movies in space, all of a sudden fighting mutants on earth will be fun again. It is all about not sticking with the same thing too long, which the original three movies kind of did as one of their several major flaws by the third film.

Yeah those ideas were just purely my fan wishes. Your thoughts are definitely more sensible. Although the second movie in my plan would have a conclusion. Phoenix would seem under control through something like telepathic blocks or depowering. The ending would set up the conflict between the X-men and the Shi'ar. It wouldn't be a Desolation of Smaug cliffhanger, where nothing in the story was concluded. Worst ending ever btw.

 

[Havok83]

Phoenix trilogy:
Part 1: Space threat, Shi'ar, Phoenix saves the day.
Part 2: Hellfire Club (Mastermind and Selene), Phoenix destruction, resolved through telepathic blocks. Shi'ar return for Jean's trial/punishment as a cliff hanger.
Part 3: X-men vs. Imperial Guard.

That would be pretty faithful and I think it could work. I honestly don't think they'd go in this direction though. I'm open for different takes on the Phoenix. A defining moment of my fandom was watching TAS's Dark Phoenix Saga part 3, thinking it was resolved by the end but then the Shi'ar cliffhanger really brought the story to another level of epic. I'd love to see that feeling reproduced in the movies. The high stakes and the seemingly never-ending complications.

btw I like Kodi's Nightcrawler.

I really dont see a reason why 2 and 3 need to be broken up into two films. Part 3 is literally one issue of the comic. A great issue at that but does that really need to be dragged out into its own 2 hour film? That battle can serve as the finale to Part 2. I dont think theres enough content to the battle on the moon to warrant it being its own film