Apocalypse X-Men Apocalypse News and Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 40

[Havok83]

I assume if you are gonna do a solo movie there is no point surrounding them with X-Men, which is why its called a solo.

 

[GuestStar2004]

And that wasn't a very good way to do a solo, for me it felt more like Iron man 4 before captain america 3 even though his name was in the title, iron man just had more emotional weight there

 

[marvelrobbins]

And that wasn't a very good way to do a solo, for me it felt more like Iron man 4 before captain america 3 even though his name was in the title, iron man just had more emotional weight there

Civil war turned cap 3 into an avengers film.granted one that felt a bit more cap centric than avengers and AOU.and as you said some felt it felt like
Iron Man 4.That is why i hate idea of stark in SPider-man:Homecoming.

 

[Iceman]

I assume if you are gonna do a solo movie there is no point surrounding them with X-Men, which is why its called a solo.

The reason I don't agree with this, unlike with many of the MCU guys, is that to a good chunk of the X-Men their support characters would naturally be other X-Men or affiliated characters. Especially the ones that live full time in the mansion. Many of them have relationships within the X-family and their best friends are also within that group.

 

[GuestStar2004]

The reason I don't agree with this, unlike with many of the MCU guys, is that to a good chunk of the X-Men their support characters would naturally be other X-Men or affiliated characters. Especially the ones that live full time in the mansion. Many of them have relationships within the X-family and their best friends are also within that group.

It would make sense for it to be very limited though, you don't do an X-Men movie as a team and then do a solo and still surround the main player with X-Men characters as supporters helping because there really is no point to doing a solo

 

[Iceman]

It would make sense for it to be very limited though, you don't do an X-Men movie as a team and then do a solo and still surround the main player with X-Men characters as supporters helping because there really is no point to doing a solo

It would work for certain characters but would be difficult for the ones who are more entrenched in the family. Unless you do a prequel of before they became X-Men? Otherwise you might have to start making up new characters for film and I don't really want to see that. Most of the X-characters haven't fared well in solo books if that's any indication.

 

[GuestStar2004]

It would work for certain characters but would be difficult for the ones who are more entrenched in the family. Unless you do a prequel of before they became X-Men? Otherwise you might have to start making up new characters for film and I don't really want to see that. Most of the X-characters haven't fared well in solo books if that's any indication.

Thats why alot of solos are origin stories though because its a personal story for that character

 

[GuestStar2004]

Kinberg in the podcast interview when asked about

Spoiler

the death of havok he said the character was killed for the sake of cyclops origin story, to give cyclops a tragic event in his life and kinberg jokingly said to lucas till hey it could be worse we killed the other guys off screen

 

[The Infernal]

Kinberg

 

[Iceman]

Thats why alot of solos are origin stories though because its a personal story for that character

That would work better. But I don't expect it to be popular in many cases when the team films and Wolverine solos aren't even breaking the bank. There are some like Storm who are more suited to it but a fair few of the X-Men have what I call co-op powers that work much better complementing a team and putting together great combo moves, than solo (eg Nightcrawlers teleports, Kitty's phasing, Angel's flight, Cyclops's optic blasts, any telepath, best of all Blink's portals ).

That's why I'd be more excited about other team spin offs like X-Force and New Mutants than X-solos unlike with the main MCU heroes (don't want to see solos for the support characters there either) where the characters are designed to be solo first with lots of their own unique cast (eg for Thor all the Asgardians, for Spidey MJ/GS/UB/AM/NO/HO/JJJ/FT), from their own comics. And also why Cap with many of his personal characters dead in the past, featured so many other MCU characters. Anyway I'm probably getting off the point now

 

[Mad Ones]

Civil War felt as Cap centric as AOU felt Iron Man centric.

 

[Havok83]

Thats why alot of solos are origin stories though because its a personal story for that character

alot of solo stories are origin stories bc you need to introduce the audience to said character. Outside of X-men (2000), origin stories tend to be norm for most team based films as well

It would make sense for it to be very limited though, you don't do an X-Men movie as a team and then do a solo and still surround the main player with X-Men characters as supporters helping because there really is no point to doing a solo

you dont do the entire lineup but 1 or 2 characters isnt a big deal. Its not as if the solo books were devoid of X-men supporting characters. Captain America TWS featured 2 additional superheroes, and that didnt feel any less like a solo film. Its arguably the best film, the MCU has pushed out

 

[kasjan]

And that wasn't a very good way to do a solo, for me it felt more like Iron man 4 before captain america 3 even though his name was in the title, iron man just had more emotional weight there

For me it was Avengers 2.5, definitely not Cap movie. In 'Winter Soldier' whole plot was around Cap.

 

[BeholdMe]

For me it was Avengers 2.5, definitely not Cap movie. In 'Winter Soldier' whole plot was around Cap.

I agree it seemed like Avengers 2.5

 

[marvelrobbins]

For me it was Avengers 2.5, definitely not Cap movie. In 'Winter Soldier' whole plot was around Cap.

CIvil war was really avengers:Civil war.still i liked civil war better than avengers or AOU despite my feelings on MCU SPider-man.

 

[JEM]

Legion

 

[henzINNIT]

Kinberg in the podcast interview when asked about

Spoiler

the death of havok he said the character was killed for the sake of cyclops origin story, to give cyclops a tragic event in his life and kinberg jokingly said to lucas till hey it could be worse we killed the other guys off screen

Listening to the Empire podcast. Kinberg is a *****e.

 

[The Infernal]

Legion

I still can't muster enthusiasm for the X-men TV projects. Both seem like variations on the same problem as Smallville, Gotham and the upcoming Krypton. It just seems like yet more shows that won't deliver the characters or content you really want to see for the possibility the movies may use them.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I still can't muster enthusiasm for the X-men TV projects. Both seem like variations on the same problem as Smallville, Gotham and the upcoming Krypton. It just seems like yet more shows that won't deliver the characters or content you really want to see for the possibility the movies may use them.

It really isn't a X-men spin-off for some strange reason fox is allowing marvel to produce stand alone show with mutant characters.

 

[YoungBlood]

Just be happy that the shows aren't connected to the films.

 

[henzINNIT]

New Mutants would be a good series tbh.

 

[Orba]

Kinberg in the podcast interview when asked about

Spoiler

the death of havok he said the character was killed for the sake of cyclops origin story, to give cyclops a tragic event in his life and kinberg jokingly said to lucas till hey it could be worse we killed the other guys off screen

Spoiler

Yeah, can't have a character without the obligatory tragic event somewhere in their lives

Kinberg

 

[GuestStar2004]

For me its the fact havok was used that way in general

 

[Raiden]

It really isn't a X-men spin-off for some strange reason fox is allowing marvel to produce stand alone show with mutant characters.

Without Marvel's approval there won't be any X-Men TV shows. It's obviously a compromise between the two companies.

 

[Zant]

I guess Marvel's relationship with Fox is not as toxic as people would like to believe. Marvel's relations with Universal on the other hand.....I don't even think they are on speaking terms.