Apocalypse X-Men Apocalypse News and Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 42

[Tymminator]

Hmm. I wonder who Penny Arcade was.

 

[superweirdo87]

Suicide Squad is tracking for a 125 million dollar opening. I think that says the audience is hungry for different and fresh. Guest Star wondered if anyone did like a deep dive on the relatively weak performance of XMA. I do think the success of Suicide Squad and Deadpool is suggestive that audiences have a strong appetite for new and fresh directions. And XMA had the whole world-in-peril scenario and rehashed a lot of the same conflicts.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Suicide Squad is tracking for a 125 million dollar opening. I think that says the audience is hungry for different and fresh. Guest Star wondered if anyone did like a deep dive on the relatively weak performance of XMA. I do think the success of Suicide Squad and Deadpool is suggestive that audiences have a strong appetite for new and fresh directions. And XMA had the whole world-in-peril scenario and rehashed a lot of the same conflicts.

I think there is a lot to this. XMA wasn't so bad as much as tired. There was very much a feeling of 'been there, done that.'

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Fox's marketing was pretty abysmal as well. Deadpool had great marketing, X-Men, not so much. It's difficult to make a "going through the motions" movie look appealing enough to have a Days or X3 type of opening weekend. The series needs some fresh ideas and no that doesn't just mean bringing back the original cast no matter what anyone thinks. The series needs a fresh story, fresh plotting and fresh character interactions.

 

[Sithborg]

Suicide Squad is tracking for a 125 million dollar opening. I think that says the audience is hungry for different and fresh. Guest Star wondered if anyone did like a deep dive on the relatively weak performance of XMA. I do think the success of Suicide Squad and Deadpool is suggestive that audiences have a strong appetite for new and fresh directions. And XMA had the whole world-in-peril scenario and rehashed a lot of the same conflicts.

Apocalypse was also tracking at close to that amount. It is still a month out.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I don't recall XA ever tracking to make 125 million. The tracking was always pointing to less than Days from what I read so it couldn't have been. Maybe someone predicted that number. X-Men had terrible marketing, it didn't have one really good trailer and the early bad reviews hurt it even more.

 

[jaymes_e06]

Some were tracking pretty high but it was for the 4 day weekend I think there were some as high as 120-130 range I believe (correct me if I'm wrong anyone more in the "know")

 

[YoungBlood]

http://pro.boxoffice.com/long-range-forecast-x-men-apocalypse-alice-through-the-looking-glass/

They projected it for 124 million on 4-day weekend.

 

[jaymes_e06]

Yep I knew it

 

[psylockolussus]

http://pro.boxoffice.com/long-range-forecast-x-men-apocalypse-alice-through-the-looking-glass/

They projected it for 124 million on 4-day weekend.

Which was pretty high especially the film didn't even feature at least half of the cast of DOFP and DOFP didn't even open that high.

Though the big surprise for this film is it won't even outgross X-Men 1 in North America which is pretty embarassing given that most projections/predictions had this film marked to outgross DOFP or at least earn 200 million in North America.

 

[jaymes_e06]

We get it you just keep repeating the same **** over and over again...

 

[psylockolussus]

I don't recall XA ever tracking to make 125 million. The tracking was always pointing to less than Days from what I read so it couldn't have been. Maybe someone predicted that number. X-Men had terrible marketing, it didn't have one really good trailer and the early bad reviews hurt it even more.

I remember boxoffice.com had a box-office prediction for it to gross $260 million in North America alone. Then few days or weeks, their prediction for the opening weekend was more or less 80 million.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Batman is my third favorate comic bookk property but even though batman cameos in Surcide squad and it has batman villains in key roles i am not exactly feeling it for surcide squad especilly with jokey final trailer which
didn't do anythign for me.trailers for apocalypse left me with far more i am ready for this.

I maintain Apocalypse has been only tradional superhero film of year.deadpool
anti-superman hero film.both BVS and civil war had heroes fighting manulpted by villains.Surcide squad is about team of super villains.

If you only compare apocalypse to just X-men films it's disaster level wasn't just rehash of other X-Men films.

just because other studios have done global disaster films doesn't mean X-Men can't do it.

 

[psylockolussus]

The global disaster of the film wasn't even showcased well.

 

[marvelrobbins]

We get it you just keep repeating the same **** over and over again...

yep.again Apocalypse made more than the wolverine did and it's getting a sequel.it made more than first class and it got 2 sequels.

Things are totaly different for X-men in 2016 than In 2000.as i said people
need to accept the first class cast isn't as popular as original cast.Fox may respond to this by recasting wolverine in next full X-Men film.

Some people liked apocalypse.some didn't.

 

[psylockolussus]

Worldwide, it made more thanks to price inflation. Though doesn't mean its more successful. Thats like saying Warcraft is more successful than The Wolverine, X1, First Class, Origins and X2 because it earned more than 420 million worldwide.

 

[jaymes_e06]

The global disaster of the film wasn't even showcased well.

I do agree to a certain extent with this. They could have done better in that regard.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I remember boxoffice.com had a box-office prediction for it to gross $260 million in North America alone. Then few days or weeks, their prediction for the opening weekend was more or less 80 million.

I never take box office.com predictions to heart and I love the website but I don't. I always wait for tracking from the trades/movie sites. Tracking is different than predictions. Suicide Squad has a lot of hype surrounding it and it has great trailers unlike Apocalypse so I am taking the tracking seriously for now. Frankly I didn't understand after we got those cheesy trailers that showed nothing new why people weren't lowering their predictions. I was always leery of it outdoing Days domestically in the first place. Every comic book film this year has a good marketing hook except X-Men: Apocalypse.

 

[psylockolussus]

I thought the marketing for Suicide Squad is quite a hit and miss. there's a lot of cringe-worthy moments in the trailers. Harley Queen's jokes/punchlines are off and no one (few, in some screenings) people laughed when I saw the trailer in the cinema. They do have better visuals than Apocalypse.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

That's fine but most think that the trailers look great and infinitely better than X-Men: Apocalypse's. The marketing has not been remotely miss, it just hasn't. I'm not commenting on the film's quality but the reality is that the marketing itself has been excellent. I'm sorry but I think it's a bit delusional to pretend that it hasn't just because it doesn't appeal to you personally.

I hate to even talk like this but I have to because I fan bases can have everything is wonderful goggles on and not acknowledge any faults.

 

[psylockolussus]

Given the content of the film, it was definitely hard to market plus most of the cast members are new faces to the franchise so they lacked the familiarity factor compare to DOFP. Maybe if it had some bad-ass fight scenes and the world destruction scenes were presented well, they could have used those for the marketing but no. Apocalypse also looked pretty bad in some of the scenes. The lighting was also poor. Like I liked the natural lighting of the scenes in X-Mansion but Angel's crib, Quicksilver's basement, the Alkali Lake, Cyclops' high school, Caliban's office, too many bad lighting which cheapened the look of the film.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Given the content of the film, it was definitely hard to market plus most of the cast members are new faces to the franchise so they lacked the familiarity factor compare to DOFP. Maybe if it had some bad-ass fight scenes or the world destruction scenes were presented well, they could have used those for the marketing but no. Apocalypse also looked pretty bad in some scenes. The lighting of the scenes was poor. Like I liked the natural lighting of the scenes in X-Mansion but Angel's crib, Quicksilver's basement, the Alkali Lake, too many bad lighting which cheapened the look of the film.

I've already said that I think the film looked cheaper than it should have.

Honestly I think it was the wrong film to make. I just don't think that they had an interesting or compelling story to tell and upstart X-Men beating a being as powerful as Apocalypse is weird. I wish they would picked a less powerful villain for the upstart X-Men to defeat.

 

[psylockolussus]

Shadow King could have been more fitting for the upstart X-Men.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Shadow King could have been more fitting for the upstart X-Men.

Yeah that would have been awesome I think.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Given the content of the film, it was definitely hard to market plus most of the cast members are new faces to the franchise so they lacked the familiarity factor compare to DOFP

You said the same thing about Guardians of the Galaxy