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85th Annual Academy Awards (2013) - Part 2

1. That really wasn't either Hunter or my point.

Yeah, your point was that Zero Dark Thirty put America (the CIA specifically) in a better light than Argo, and how that may or may not have impacted the Academy's decision. My point was that that is pretty much irrelevant, because the films are not on equal terms quality wise.

2. I thought it was one of the best Bond songs ever. And I'm not at all a big fan of Skyfall otherwise.

That's interesting. So far, I have encountered few that share my opinion, so maybe I am just deaf or something. I just think the song is a bit one note and boring. I've only seen a few other Bond movies, so I don't have too much to compare it to in that respect. But among the other nominees, I just didn't think it deserved it.
 
I agree with most of the wins last night, good for Ang Lee he deserved that best director. The one I can't get behind and was a huge misfire was Christoph Waltz winning. I like the guy so it won't bug me too much but this belongs up there with Melissa Tomei's win. He was funny in the movie and had a little acting going on towards the end but i didn't find one thing about his performance impressive. Especially up against a great performance from Tommy Lee Jones and a mesmorizing performance from Phillip Seymour Hoffman. Just ridiculous

Agreed. I loved him in the film, but he was pretty much playing a more noble Hans Landa. Certainly not a bad thing, but not award worthy imo. I was rooting for Tommy Lee Jones, his performance was the best I've seen him give in years. Even better than No Country For Old Men.
 
I'd go with these guys to host next year's.

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Yes, please.

That closing number with McFarlane and Kristen Chenowith was awful, btw. Neil Patrick Harris does closing numbers when he hosts the Tony Awards, and they're soooo much better.

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I loved Joaquin's reaction during the BA presentation and the solo-don't-give-a-**** clapping from RDJ to the Chris Brown Joke.
 
Actually, now that I think of it...Neil Patrick Harris and Hugh Jackman should host the Oscars together.

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Tommy Lee Jones should have won Oscar. And Lincoln over Les Mis in production design is just ridiculous.
 
Am I the only one who didn't like Michelle Obama announcing Best Picture? I really like her (a lot more than her husband), but mixing politics and entertainment is a potential minefield here.
 
As long as Franco and played out Crystal never come back I don't care who they get to host.
 
I didn't like it either and I like her a lot. She has nothing to do with the industry.
 
Am I the only one who didn't like Michelle Obama announcing Best Picture? I really like her (a lot more than her husband), but mixing politics and entertainment is a potential minefield here.

I agree
Entertainment is getting much more political, though.
Especially some BP nominees.
 
Nah, I think it's only because a lot of the movies this year has had political subjects.
 
That was insanely good. It's gonna be one of those scenes people look back at decades later. Though by that time sentient teddy bears will probably be alive and well.
 
I remember when Gollum won the MTV award and back then it blew me away that they could even do that (even if it's taped) but that Ted segment was incredible.
 
Tommy Lee Jones should have won Oscar. And Lincoln over Les Mis in production design is just ridiculous.

What I think helped out Lincoln big time was the ridiculous attention to detail, for example the gas pipes moving because gas is going through them. Also because it was all very real where as Les Mis was a lot of green screen, very poor green screen at times
 
Agreed. I loved him in the film, but he was pretty much playing a more noble Hans Landa. Certainly not a bad thing, but not award worthy imo. I was rooting for Tommy Lee Jones, his performance was the best I've seen him give in years. Even better than No Country For Old Men.

I was rooting for Jones but I don't mind Waltz winning at all. It is true that his performance shared some similarities to his performance as Landa, which also won him the award, but really, while Jones was fantastic in Lincoln, what really set his performance part from all his other roles or just his public persona in general?

Both actors were essentially playing to their strengths.
 
Yeah, your point was that Zero Dark Thirty put America (the CIA specifically) in a better light than Argo, and how that may or may not have impacted the Academy's decision. My point was that that is pretty much irrelevant, because the films are not on equal terms quality wise.
Um no, that wasn't my point at all.

I was just saying that I personally felt ZDT was more patriotic. I don't think it had any impact whatsoever on the voting process.
 
Am I the only one who didn't like Michelle Obama announcing Best Picture? I really like her (a lot more than her husband), but mixing politics and entertainment is a potential minefield here.
You like her more than Barack? Ew.
 

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