All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - - Part 67

[TheNextNolan22]

One of the newest TV spots(#7) just aired on TeenNick.

 

[Smallville13]

On another note, it times like this where I wish I could tell a certain poster here on how wrong they were and how much BS came out of their mouth by presenting this gif. I believe a certain infamous poster was known for claiming several times on how the person in this gif was actually either a military soldier or even faora that was falling to their doom and how Superman was coming in to rescue that person.lol

Ha I think he owes other posters here over $1000 in bets regarding that.

 

[Zorex]

On another note, it times like this where I wish I could tell a certain poster here on how wrong they were and how much BS came out of their mouth by presenting this gif. I believe a certain infamous poster was known for claiming several times on how the person in this gif was actually either a military soldier or even faora that was falling to their doom and how Superman was coming in to rescue that person.lol

Good times, right? It never ceases to amuse and amaze me when fanboys claim 100% certainty on things they have no special insight into based on stills or less than 24 frames of footage.

 

[JaD]

On another note, it times like this where I wish I could tell a certain poster here on how wrong they were and how much BS came out of their mouth by presenting this gif. I believe a certain infamous poster was known for claiming several times on how the person in this gif was actually either a military soldier or even faora that was falling to their doom and how Superman was coming in to rescue that person.lol

I don't get it. Inception gravity going on or something? A person falling upwards towards Superman?

I read your quote and thought maybe you were talking about the shot of Supes racing towards something and reaching out for it (with the flames in the shot too).

 

[DKDetective]

This.....sounds too plausible it could be true. The only thing off comes from the art book.

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It mentions the Scout Ship breaking free of the ice and then eventually later showing it come to rest on a "windswept mountain" to prove that the meld of Krypton and Earth can be visually appealing. Of course the ship could then take off to do what you said but the way its worded could make it sound that's the ships final resting place.

I do like your speculation a hell of a lot though.

Spoiler

Very true, I noticed that line as well, but as you said, it may move again. I don't think it is a major caveat, but I understand your point about the implication of it being the ship's final, resting place.

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

I actually agree with you, like all trailers I'm sure there is a lot of awesome splicing going on.

STID actually had some really clever editing in the TV spots. For instance without saying why it was misleading, the parts with The starships crashing, and rising out of the the water, and Scotty saying: "She's dead captain. The ship's dead!" Very clever misdirection. Btw I'll say it for the umpteenth time, STID was truly excellent, and deserves to make more money at the BO than it is doing. I'll be a happy camper if MOS is as enjoyable as that film.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

That shot was pretty clear from the get-go though, it wasn't a mystery shot at all. Sometimes fanboys like to over complicate things in order to make themselves feel intelligent.

STID actually had some really clever editing in the TV spots. For instance without saying why it was misleading, the parts with The starships crashing, and rising out of the the water, and Scotty saying: "She's dead captain. The ship's dead!" Very clever misdirection. Btw I'll say it for the umpteenth time, STID was truly excellent, and deserves to make more money at the BO than it is doing. I'll be a happy camper if MOS is as enjoyable as that film.

It actually had a good drop this weekend. I think it's an entertaining flick but I'm becoming less and less a fan of it every time I think about it.

 

[jthom19802]

Silly and a bit off yet on-topic, I got my scan finally. And just curious if people have taken pictures of theirs and shared. I know we've all seen the Wal-Mart ones, but this is what I got to take there:

(note: I whited out the time and place, just in case. You never know with those crazy stalker b***** [No offense I SEE SPIDEY] )

I know we've seen a couple others, but anyone else?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Silly and a bit off yet on-topic, I got my scan finally. And just curious if people have taken pictures of theirs and shared. I know we've all seen the Wal-Mart ones, but this is what I got to take there:

(note: I whited out the time and place, just in case. You never know with those crazy stalker b***** [No offense I SEE SPIDEY] )

I know we've seen a couple others, but anyone else?

Why would I take offense? There are crazies out there.

If you think I'm going to chide you for using the B-word you have another thing coming. I can't even stop myself from cussing.

 

[jthom19802]

Why would I take offense? There are crazies out there.

If you think I'm going to chide you for using the B-word you have another thing coming. I can't even stop myself from cussing.

I said no offense as a joke because A. you are a female and B. I was implying you were hiding in my bushes.

Try to keep up, dear

 

[Herolee10]

Ha I think he owes other posters here over $1000 in bets regarding that.

Good times, right? It never ceases to amuse and amaze me when fanboys claim 100% certainty on things they have no special insight into based on stills or less than 24 frames of footage.

Indeed; that and how he caused somewhat of stir (minor uproar) when he posted one cam quality picture of Cavil and Shannon in costume on the SV set that no one had ever seen, during when the drought was at its worst, and got some people excited that he'd post more, only to make random ass excuses of why he couldn't do it while using all of that supposed precious time in gloating about how he looked better than Cavil by showing a picture of himself on set.lol

I don't get it. Inception gravity going on or something? A person falling upwards towards Superman?

I read your quote and thought maybe you were talking about the shot of Supes racing towards something and reaching out for it (with the flames in the shot too).

The poster thought that "Zod" (or the soldier/Faora) was actually falling down and that it was a camera trick that was being used to make it look like as if the person was being propelled upwards.lol

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

That shot was pretty clear from the get-go though, it wasn't a mystery shot at all. Sometimes fanboys like to over complicate things in order to make themselves feel intelligent.

It actually had a good drop this weekend. I think it's an entertaining flick but I'm becoming less and less a fan of it every time I think about it.

Yeah the drop was quite good and it actually started making up ground on ST09 this weekend. Of course even if they are neck and neck, adjusting for inflation, it is still behind ST09. Apparently it's because they didn't get the 25 and under segment of the GA to show up OW. I don't think MOS will have that problem, as clearly the latest trailer and the barrage of action-centric TV spots is aimed right at the heart of that demographic.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I said no offense as a joke because A. you are a female and B. I was implying you were hiding in my bushes.

Try to keep up, dear

Sorry for ruining the joke. And I'm hiding in Cavill's bushes, not yours.

Yeah the drop was quite good and it actually started making up ground on ST09 this weekend. Of course even if they are neck and neck, adjusting for inflation, it is still behind ST09. Apparently it's because they didn't get the 25 and under segment of the GA to show up OW. I don't think MOS will have that problem, as clearly the latest trailer and the barrage of action-centric TV spots is aimed right at the heart of that demographic.

Yeah it attracted less women and young people. Paramount obviously didn't play up the attractive dudes enough and the trailers didn't appeal to younger people. 36% of Trek's audience was female, the movie should have hit the 40% mark. I thought the marketing was pretty good but as it got closer they over marketed the thing and not in the right way. The movie is still going to do over 200mil and they will make a sequel I'm sure because the overseas numbers should make up for the domestic ones. Obviously the movie is a huge disappointment though, I predicted 325mil.

As for Superman I think that they have been mostly doing a great job of marketing it as the reboot people were expecting 7 years ago. Even though Cavill is hot as hell I'm still unsure of how many women they are going to attract, it's always hard to know. I mean most people (I expected a big female audience for it) would be shocked to hear that 49% of Fast 6's audience was female on it's opening weekend.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Why would I take offense? There are crazies out there.

If you think I'm going to chide you for using the B-word you have another thing coming. I can't even stop myself from cussing.

I think he is calling you a crazy stalker.

 

[DKDetective]

And then he made a whole bunch of false claims about when Trailer 3 was going to come out. Seriously, the next time he makes posts like that people should report him as a troll.

 

[jthom19802]

I think he is calling you a crazy stalker.

See at least someone got the joke.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

STID actually had some really clever editing in the TV spots. For instance without saying why it was misleading, the parts with The starships crashing, and rising out of the the water, and Scotty saying: "She's dead captain. The ship's dead!" Very clever misdirection. Btw I'll say it for the umpteenth time, STID was truly excellent, and deserves to make more money at the BO than it is doing. I'll be a happy camper if MOS is as enjoyable as that film.

If MOS is as enjoyable as STID, I'll only be SLIGHTLY disappointed. It had a good plot, good dialog, good themes, and a good villain. But MOS looks to have an unprecedented scale and mythology to it. If it's as good as Trailer 3 makes it out to be, and as exciting as the tv spots make it out to be, I'll be all wet-with tears hopefully

 

[smsvmos]

Since I didn't see anyone doing it I did it myself t: So far I have the scenes from Krypton, Clark's early years and Clark's Journey. I will work later on the Smallville fight and Metropolis battle.

Krypton:
[YT]m1L1Suu0lsg[/YT]

Clark's Early years:
[YT]Jrk3kDPVLbo[/YT]

Clark's Jorney:
[YT]S-rAU9cUDNc[/YT]

 

[Project862006]

tv spot 7 is the best tv spot yet imo it had everything

big scale action
superman punching zod into car
heat vision
epic music
superman saving a soldier from his death
and funny cute moments like what does s stand for scene from trailer and he is kinda hot scene

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I think he is calling you a crazy stalker.

See at least someone got the joke.

Are you guys going to keep making fun of me for not getting the joke?

 

[jthom19802]

Are you guys going to keep making fun of me for not getting the joke?

I'm fairly confident that is exactly what you'd do so you should in no way expect anything less.

Unless you just need a boop.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

tv spot 7 is the best tv spot yet imo it had everything

big scale action
superman punching zod into car
heat vision
epic music
superman saving a soldier from his death
and funny cute moments like what does s stand for scene from trailer and he is kinda hot scene

But tv spot 4 had the best imagery

But yes, I agree with you.

 

[DKDetective]

Color me intrigued about your speculation.

Very, very cool. That sounds like a great visual and a bit of a nod to the scene from STM.

And yes DK, always love some good speculation. t:

In case you guys missed my response on the last page. The speculation is only based on the info from the book we already discussed and footage released so far.

Darth and InJustice, please be warned, this is really spoilerific if I am right.

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So it seems that the Black Zero does not have a Phantom Drive of its own (since it couldn't leave the Zone at will) whereas Kara's crashed Scout Ship aka the Fortress and Kal-El's rocket do possess them. Interestingly, Trailer 4 shows what appears to the Fortress/Scout Ship crashing through Metropolis. Knowing what we know about the Zone and Kryptonian spacetravel technology, I wonder if the Scout Ship enters the picture as a way for Supes to re-imprison Zod and the Black Zero in the Zone.

We have seen shots of what appears to be Lois at the Fortress and, if you go back to Trailer 2, there was a lone shot of Hardy and Hamilton at the similar snowy, northern location looking at something with awe. We also see a big convoy of military aircraft including Hercules transports flying somewhere. Now that we know that Supes shows up the military base all on his own and doesn't submit to custody in Smallville, that convoy of aircraft makes no sense unless perhaps it is transporting a military/scientific expedition to the Fortress. A recent interview with Deborah Snyder states that Lois has a defined role in the good guys' plan for the last act. Since we know there is no Kryptonite in the film and presumably Kryptonians cannot be killed on Earth otherwise, I wonder if Supes develops a plan to have Lois and the military try and power up the crashed Scout Ship and get its Phantom Drive working while Supes distracts Zod and company and attempts to save as many lives as he can in Metropolis.

Then the Scout Ship comes to Metropolis and opens a rift to the Zone (would it not make sense for Col. Hardy, a "heroic" Air Force officer who seems more prominent than shown, to be in the movie because his role is to fly the Scout Ship and possibly sacrifice himself doing so?). Then, Supes leads the Black Zero through the portal/rift acting as bait. (hence the shots in Trailer 3 of Supes flying and being chased by the Black Zero's tentacles where it almost looks like they are underwater or something, when in fact they are in the Zone) If you think about it, the shot of Supes carrying Lois with the sucking distortion in the background can't be the gravity beam because it would mean that they are flying straight downwards towards the ground given how they are flying directly away from the distortion. I think Supes' face looks weird and "cracked" in that scene because he has just escaped the Zone and the portal is closing behind them and collapsing.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm fairly confident that is exactly what you'd do so you should in no way expect anything less.

Unless you just need a boop.

Of course I dish it out and take it. What are you like 19 or 20? That's too young for me to stalk.

 

[jthom19802]

Of course I dish it out and take it. What are you like 19 or 20? That's too young for me to stalk.

32, but I appreciate you carding me; I don't get it enough nowadays