BvS All Things Superman and Batman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - Part 46

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Yeah I much prefer kryptonite just decreasing his powers slowly. It could make it interesting, like Batman or maybe Lex is holding kryptonite near Superman but he doesn't know it's affecting him, then Bats or Lex just beats the crabs out of Supes.
 
Just watched The Winter Soldier. Seriously, the distance between Marvel and DC is colossal and getting wider ever more rapidly.

If Warner wants to create something remotely close to that, they will have to work a lot. A. LOT.
 
Were they ever really on the same map? If so, then Spidey oughtta' put a nail in it in a month or so, no? But movies shouldn't be the end-all-to-be-all with all the other comics and animations etc. out there, so no big deal right?
If the movies don't find their footing, that failure can crossover to other media. Green Lantern: TAS was great on its own, but because the movie bombed, the ratings for the toon never took off to CN's liking. (To be fair, I don't think CN was all that invested in it to begin with, but that also might've been because of the movie.)
 
Were they ever really on the same map? If so, then Spidey oughtta' put a nail in it in a month or so, no? But movies shouldn't be the end-all-to-be-all with all the other comics and animations etc. out there, so no big deal right?
If not, then they should have been. They had the head start with Superman and Batman being cinematic icons long before Marvel got started. And they also had control of all their properties as opposed to Marvel losing rights to many of their biggest, some maybe even permanently. JL has no reason not to be as big as Avengers. And comics have been around for 75-80 years. A cinematic universe based on DC is something else that satisfies a different desire. Comics can do stories and character development over the long term far better but you can't match live action for spectacle.
 
Just watched The Winter Soldier. Seriously, the distance between Marvel and DC is colossal and getting wider ever more rapidly.

If Warner wants to create something remotely close to that, they will have to work a lot. A. LOT.

Perhaps you should watch the Nolan Batman films and MOS.

DC just needs to keep doing what they've been doing and not worry about Marvel.
 
Perhaps you should watch the Nolan Batman films and MOS.

DC just needs to keep doing what they've been doing and not worry about Marvel.
2 characters that they'd already had success with decades ago. The Nolan Batfilms were amazing but DC have a universe of properties and great characters beyond those 2 that they can give to fans on film.
 
Perhaps you should watch the Nolan Batman films and MOS.

the nolan films don't take place in the DC Cinematic Universe, they are over and done with, and the sequel to MOS is gonna be out 3 years after its release, while Marvel will have had 5 films out within that time period.

so yes, if WB has any intentions of getting their cinematic universe on par with Marvel's (Maybe they do, maybe they don't) then yes, they have a lot of work to do.
 
I guess it's time for that whole "If they don't churn out as many CBMs as they possibly can, WB isn't successful" talk again.

Yay.
 
If WB wanted to match the MCU's output right now, then they would.

Clearly that's not the plan.
 
Look, if WB doesn't churn out as many movies as Marvel, they just won't be as successful.
 
the nolan films don't take place in the DC Cinematic Universe, they are over and done with, and the sequel to MOS is gonna be out 3 years after its release while Marvel will have had 5 films out within that time period.

so yes, if WB has any intentions of getting their cinematic universe on par with Marvel's (Maybe they do, maybe they don't) then yes, they have a lot of work to do.

I don't get this logic. Those movies happened, just as the Avengers happened, just as Iron Man happened. To try and somehow disqualify those movies because they are not a "cinematic universe"? Come on. I am getting so tired of people bashing DC's output by disqualifying their 3 best movies. Cinematic universe is not everything.
 
Well, WB may not be matching Marvel's superhero output, but they're still top of the overall movie studio heap year in and year out. So they basically still have the last laugh.
Not sure I understand why it's relevant what WB are laughing about. Aren't we just talking about DC films here? Of course WB can get great success making movies that are nothing to do with comics but that's not the conversation. :huh:
 
the nolan films don't take place in the DC Cinematic Universe, they are over and done with, and the sequel to MOS is gonna be out 3 years after its release, while Marvel will have had 5 films out within that time period.

so yes, if WB has any intentions of getting their cinematic universe on par with Marvel's (Maybe they do, maybe they don't) then yes, they have a lot of work to do.

Honestly, who cares? Batman and Superman have been popular for decades. 5 of the 7 Batman movies broke box office records. I don´t think it will be that difficult for WB to keep people buying their stuff, as long as they have Batman and Superman on board.
 
I don't get this logic. Those movies happened, just as the Avengers happened, just as Iron Man happened. To try and somehow disqualify those movies because they are not a "cinematic universe"? Come on. I am getting so tired of people bashing DC's output by disqualifying their 3 best movies. Cinematic universe is not everything.


Don't you know?! It's all about the universe! THE UNIVERSE!

Over and over again...the god damned universe!
 
Batman doesn't count because it's not connected!

They wouldn't be anything without Nolan!

They can't do anything outside of Nolan!

"Outside of the Nolan films", DC is trash.

Same ol' bull ****. Give me a break. Give us all a break.
 
I don't get this logic. Those movies happened, just as the Avengers happened, just as Iron Man happened. To try and somehow disqualify those movies because they are not a "cinematic universe"? Come on. I am getting so tired of people bashing DC's output by disqualifying their 3 best movies. Cinematic universe is not everything.
They were great films. I can't see any solo comic film touching TDK for me in a long time. But DC has a lot of fans of characters beyond Superman & Batman. And I'm sure they want a successful cinematic universe too over independent solo films, or there wouldn't be WW & Bats appearing in this film. Hopefully this is successful enough to lead to big things down the road for the company.
 
This will be my only post about Marvel movies here since I don't want to start a flame war, but did anyone notice the complete lack of reporting on the fact that Cap 2 lost Friday and most likely the weekend to Rio 2 and slid 68% from last Friday and most likely 56-59% from last weekend despite the "Word of mouth will be so much better and legs will be amazing and carry it past MoS easily" talk that had been going on all week on Twitter, CBM and the Box Office Forums.

If MoS had the exact same box office run as Thor 2 did and now Cap 2 is having, then there would have been a million thinkpieces about how Superman is no longer a box office juggernaut and was driven close by an "Urban Comedy" (Best Man Holiday) and a second tier animated movie (Rio 2) on its second weekend.
 
DC vs. Marvel movies aren't really relevant either...except when it comes to fanboy pride or what have you.
No but they were the subject of conversation. WB's success outside of comic films won't ever be relevant unless it's a studio comparison thread. And I don't see this as a "Vs". The films have been far more complementary and supportive than competitive products (except when they decide to launch big films on the same day that is! :csad:).
 
And just as relevant as WB vs. Marvel, unless of course you're the 'conversation police'.
What Marvel Studios which was just born recently Vs the behemoth Warner Bros? Lol. Make the comparison if you want, I'm no policeman, just didn't think you actually meant it.
 
It's about quality rather than quantity
 
I don't get this logic. Those movies happened, just as the Avengers happened, just as Iron Man happened. To try and somehow disqualify those movies because they are not a "cinematic universe"? Come on. I am getting so tired of people bashing DC's output by disqualifying their 3 best movies. Cinematic universe is not everything.
I don't think many people would be giving a damn about shared universes if at the very least we were getting solid and and consistent output on the DC front. We're about ten years in now from when WB decided to step back into the superhero game, and Nolan's trilogy is really the only one that came out unscathed.

I fully believe Marvel is a bit overrated because I've yet to see a truly outstanding film, but even I had to concede around the time of the Avengers. They're moving at a tremendous pace, utilizing B and C list heroes, shifting the pop culture interest towards their properties.

WB may generally be the more successful studio, but surely it's somewhat of a waste knowing they're laying on goldmine properties that should be overshadowing Marvel right now.
 
You sure it's okay? You're not going to lose any sleep over it or anything....?
Go ahead mate! :yay:

It should be a fun discussion. Just make sure to leave Disney (a parent company like Warner Bros) out of the equation as the comparison might become meaningful. :yay: I'm going to sleep now anyway but thanks for your concern. :up:
 
I don't think many people would be giving a damn about shared universes if at the very least we were getting solid and and consistent output on the DC front.

We are, and that's why I prefer their approach.
 
Perhaps you should watch the Nolan Batman films and MOS.

DC just needs to keep doing what they've been doing and not worry about Marvel.

It's somehow funny that someone would think that Nolan's Batman and MoS invalidate what I said.
 
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