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Chapter 44 - "The Eclipse, Part 1" - Discussion Thread 11/17/2008

I'm still very confused about the whole Hiro-thinks-he's-ten-years-old thing. Sometimes it seems like the writers just pull ideas out of nowhere and expect people to take it all in stride. Frankly, I find it quite annoying.
 
I'm watching right now via Hulu and one pretty big plot hole jumped out at me. Matt and Hiro have never met. I think they were in the same room once at the end of season 2 (and literally minutes afterwards Parkman was teleported to Africa, without ever having spoke to him). How does Parkman have Hiro's phone number like they were old buddies and how does Ando know Parkman's address?
 
I'm watching right now via Hulu and one pretty big plot hole jumped out at me. Matt and Hiro have never met. I think they were in the same room once at the end of season 2 (and literally minutes afterwards Parkman was teleported to Africa, without ever having spoke to him). How does Parkman have Hiro's phone number like they were old buddies and how does Ando know Parkman's address?

It was in the comic book.... drawn and written by a wizard.
 
Mohinders mutation going away in a blink of an eye, anyone care to explain how a genetic mutation like that is completly cured?
 
I'm watching right now via Hulu and one pretty big plot hole jumped out at me. Matt and Hiro have never met. I think they were in the same room once at the end of season 2 (and literally minutes afterwards Parkman was teleported to Africa, without ever having spoke to him). How does Parkman have Hiro's phone number like they were old buddies and how does Ando know Parkman's address?
Well I know Ando knew Matt from Season 2 when Matt questioned him about the Helix symbol. Not sure how Ando got Matt's address though. What surprises me is why they (Hiro and Ando) don't seem to remember Matt from when they encountered him in the future (although, with Hiro's current state of mind, I guess he wouldn't remember Matt). I did enjoy the appearance of Seth Green at the end of the episode.
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Well I know Ando knew Matt from Season 2 when Matt questioned him about the Helix symbol. Not sure how Ando got Matt's address though. What surprises me is why they (Hiro and Ando) don't seem to remember Matt from when they encountered him in the future (although, with Hiro's current state of mind, I guess he wouldn't remember Matt). I did enjoy the appearance of Seth Green at the end of the episode.
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That's right. Matt knew Ando. But still...why does Matt have Hiro's number and know all about him? The only time they've ever met, is as you've said, the future.
 
So who's drawing that comicbook now? Arthur has a monthly he's putting out? Drawing the future seems to be one of the more popular powers for this show.

What I find to be more amazing is that no one took ten minutes to glance through the full comic and instead only turn the page when the plot warrants they be looking at that certain page.
 
That's right. Matt knew Ando. But still...why does Matt have Hiro's number and know all about him? The only time they've ever met, is as you've said, the future.

I am not defending the crap the writers have been spewing but Matt stated he has Hiro number from the time he worked the homicide case for Hiro dad. Which makes sense since he was involved with that in season 2.
 
Why does it seem that Heroes fanboys attack Lost more often then Lost fanboys ever reference Heroes?

attack huh? didn't know it was so personal. :)

The only reason it's brought up is because people come on the HEROES side board claiming Lost is way better.... guess what? you're in the Heroes board no one gives a flying poopsicle. :D

So naturally any negative comment towards heroes in reference to Lost is going to meet with another negative comment on lost. It's the laws of message board physics.
 
I am not defending the crap the writers have been spewing but Matt stated he has Hiro number from the time he worked the homicide case for Hiro dad. Which makes sense since he was involved with that in season 2.

That's right. Makes sense, I suppose. Still, how did Ando find him?
 
Well, that much is guaranteed because they characters didn't get their powers from the first eclipse, wasn't Claire already doing her "tests", Nathan flying out of the car crash, Sylar taking a power or two, Hiro experiementing with his powers. Seriously the show only has 44 episodes and can't get it's own continuity right.

They didn't get their powers from the first eclipse, it either triggered or accelerated the powers in them. I thought they stated that?

I don't think Hiro made any experiments until after the eclipse.

It was mainly Peter and Hiro who had their powers triggered during the eclipse no?
 
That's right. Makes sense, I suppose. Still, how did Ando find him?

Is this not the same apartment everyone's been meeting in since season 1? :p

It was either this place or Issac's loft no?
 
How does Parkman have Hiro's phone number like they were old buddies and how does

Matt and Daphne had the files from Pinehearst, one of the files contained information on Hiro.
 
Issac drew the future in advance. Hiro is searching for the last issue which Issac gave the courier along with his sketchbook in season one

Only problem with that is that the future has changed 2-3 times since S1. So its pretty hard to write a comic book when you died in S1 and so much has changed since you had your last vision.
 
Only problem with that is that the future has changed 2-3 times since S1. So its pretty hard to write a comic book when you died in S1 and so much has changed since you had your last vision.

Also, wasn't that 'last comic' Hiro in the future during season one?
 
attack huh? didn't know it was so personal.

You brought up Lost first... sounds like you might be jealous that Lost actually got its act together and stopped sucking to high heaven, unlike NBC's answer to Lost, Heroes.

The only reason it's brought up is because people come on the HEROES side board claiming Lost is way better....

Um... yes, I see the million of threads here saying that. I also see all those posts too.

So naturally any negative comment towards heroes in reference to Lost is going to meet with another negative comment on lost. It's the laws of message board physics.

Yes. Matt isn't doing his job and this board is filled with Losties mocking Heroes.
 
Only problem with that is that the future has changed 2-3 times since S1. So its pretty hard to write a comic book when you died in S1 and so much has changed since you had your last vision.

Exactly. I was surprised that the writers even revisited the whole comic book angle since Isaac's been dead for so long.

I guess maybe that particular comic doesn't come out every month, and the publisher is using up the last of Isaac's artwork. But even so, since the original nuking of NYC didn't happen, you'd think it would render any other drawings invalid.

Bah - lazy writing rears its ugly head again.
 
*sigh* We're gonna have to play this game huh?

Ok well then since I have to go to work in a few let's get this over with. :)

No.

Peter was using his powers in Six Months Ago.

Than it was accelerated.......that's wasn't my initial point.

The Eclipse had an effect, that's all I'm saying and that it's not a fact that it's the origin of powers yet.

You brought up Lost first... sounds like you might be jealous that Lost actually got its act together and stopped sucking to high heaven, unlike NBC's answer to Lost, Heroes.

Really? I did first right.... go back a couple of pages and do some reading just to make sure you're right.

Dude it's just a show, If it fails I'll live. I'll be disappointed and I might b!tc# about it a bit, but I'll live. ;) but no you're right I'm very jealous......


Um... yes, I see the million of threads here saying that. I also see all those posts too.

Yea, you're so right millions......:whatever:

It happens, that's all I'm saying. ;)


Yes. Matt isn't doing his job and this board is filled with Losties mocking Heroes.

Who said it's filled with these people? I didn't say it. I just said some people do it. Big woop.

When did some become so many? You might want to get a dictionary and stop trying to look for hidden meanings that aren't there.

Way to blow it out of proportion buddy.
Let me guess though, I'm the one taking it personally by making one comment about it? :D
 
I just decided, from now on, all plot holes are no longer plot holes, but continuation from Season 2.5, the "Lost Volume". If there is anything that they get wrong, or doesn't make sense, or just changed because of Lazy Writing, it's not so. We would have been shown what REALLY happened, but we didn't see it because it was in the "Lost Volume". This way, it's not Krings fault anymore, it someone else's fault.

AND they can use this until they cancel the show.

KRING: "It's not our fault, it's would have been explained in 2.5, but those pesky writers had to stike"

EVERYONE ELSE: "You've been saying that for 5 years now!!!"
 
When did some become so many? You might want to get a dictionary and stop trying to look for hidden meanings that aren't there.

Wait... a dictionary? You mean when the definition of hyperbole is? :wow:
 
Exactly. I was surprised that the writers even revisited the whole comic book angle since Isaac's been dead for so long.

I guess maybe that particular comic doesn't come out every month, and the publisher is using up the last of Isaac's artwork. But even so, since the original nuking of NYC didn't happen, you'd think it would render any other drawings invalid.

Bah - lazy writing rears its ugly head again.
i think the writers are going to pull something like " isaac is still alive".
however if thats the case ando would be wondering were the new 9th wonders were coming from....unless he found out isaac was alive in volume 2.5. hopefully they will make volume 4 or 5 a flashback too volume 2.5.
 
Than it was accelerated.......that's wasn't my initial point.

The Eclipse had an effect, that's all I'm saying and that it's not a fact that it's the origin of powers yet.

They mentioned in this episode that people's abilities began to start manifesting during the first eclipse. That's not true though, most of the main cast were already using their powers before the eclipse. So why does a new eclipse mean they lose said powers, shouldn't they have started losing them beforehand?
 
If Isaac is still alive I would even prolly be done with the show. I'm fairly certain when your brain is removed you don't go on living.
 

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