Henry Cavill IS Superman: - - - - - Part 14

[slumcat]

@hafizbat Cavill was not anywhere near 3% body-fat for his shirtless scene. Aside from that being near death, top bodybuilders who literally dehydrate themselves for days before competitions only usually get down to around 5% bodyfat minimum.

He was probably around 10% in that scene which is more than fine.

Of course even in that scene that wasn't a totally accurate representation of his "resting weight". For shirtless scenes actors get a "pump on" i.e lift heavy weights in short reps right before to engorge the muscles and help to exaggerate that "pumped-up" look.

That figure is a widely quoted figure so must be true. Snyder quoted in an Empire interview and Mark Twight has also quoted it.

And he had already achieved 5%-6% for Immortals and that was also very widely reported. Plus many body-builders routinely get to 3% for contests. It is genetics and your body type. So people need to go that low for the abs to pop, some people have good definition even at 8%.

But Cavill looked hella cut. You could see striations in the shoulder, his iliac furrow ( or athlete's girdle, or Apollo's Belt or Adonis belt), his abs really popped and he wasn't even flexing and he had a general fat free appearance, even the biceps and delts look extremely cut. Its Gym Jones we are talking about. I think the 3% claim is legit.

Other actors said to have achieved 3% body fat for their roles are Stallone for Rock IV and Gerard Butler for 300. Again I would like to believe in the case for Butler because his abs were so deeply defined, so stunningly shaped, you could get them to be so sculpted only if you had no fat on your belly.

 

[ThePhantasm]

I loved Cavill as Supes. However, upon reflection, I don't think he had the opportunity to fully embody the character. I think one of the best Superman scenes was when he had a discussion with the general (about the drone) at the end. His mannerisms, speaking style, expressions, etc. were all perfect Superman in that scene. But all the scenes prior to that were bits of character buildup - he just wasn't there yet. I believe he can fully embody the role though in the sequel.

 

[slumcat]

Cavill's pretty green at this press thing and he hasn't really mastered the art of playing off the interviewer yet. It's obvious the guy was just trying to poke fun there and get silly/laid back responses and cavill sort of responded in the formal way you would to a newspaper or an actual journalists question.

I'm not blaming cavill he seems like a really decent guy, it's just that this isn't even that bad compared to many show-biz interviews and he'll get a lot more.

Honestly, I really think that the guy doesn't have a sense of humor. Snyder said that Cavill is serious like a hear-attack and I believe him. See the Norton show where the jokester steals the show and Cavill was extremely quite while Adams and specially Crowe played off Norton a lot.

Cavill is more suited to the straight interview format rather than a talk show where he can seem a bit stiff. But that's okay, not everybody has a great ability for making jokes.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

11 months training for 10 seconds of footage is brutal.

Agreed, but "them's the breaks" in show business.

 

[slumcat]

Christian Bale doesn't respond well to those idiotic kind of questions either. In that regard both of them are perfect for their roles. Neither Superman or Batman respond well to dummies trying to get a rise out of them.

I don't think Bale has a sense of humor either. I wouldn't like to hang out with him for a beer at all.

 

[ThePhantasm]

I wouldn't respond well to those sorts of questions either. I'm a fun person, I just don't like that sort of trite "I'm trying to be a comedian with a total stranger" thing.

 

[slumcat]

Agreed, but "them's the breaks" in show business.

I would be pissed if I got into peak human condition and the director shot me for 3 takes of 10 seconds each and then told I could stop my regimen. I would go incredulously go "That's it? Are you sure you don't want to shoot more?"

Cavill is fortunate his shirtless scene still made such a huge impact on audiences. So his effort was at least worth it.

 

[Bruce Malone]

That figure is a widely quoted figure so must be true. Snyder quoted in an Empire interview and Mark Twight has also quoted it.

And he had already achieved 5%-6% for Immortals and that was also very widely reported. Plus many body-builders routinely get to 3% for contests. It is genetics and your body type. So people need to go that low for the abs to pop, some people have good definition even at 8%.

But Cavill looked hella cut. You could see striations in the shoulder, his iliac furrow ( or athlete's girdle, or Apollo's Belt or Adonis belt), his abs really popped and he wasn't even flexing and he had a general fat free appearance, even the biceps and delts look extremely cut. Its Gym Jones we are talking about. I think the 3% claim is legit.

Other actors said to have achieved 3% body fat for their roles are Stallone for Rock IV and Gerard Butler for 300. Again I would like to believe in the case for Butler because his abs were so deeply defined, so stunningly shaped, you could get them to be so sculpted only if you had no fat on your belly.

Haha it doesn't work that way on the internet. Trust me i know a good deal about this stuff he was not anywhere near 5% bodyfat. You'd have seen a lot of striations and the like and none of that was visible, not to mention his abs weren't hugely visible.

Take a look at this chart:

Cavill is somewhere i'd estimate between 8-10% closer to 10% like i'd gauged earlier. Also remember mass doesn't have much to do with how high or low your body fat % is.

 

[Lencho01]

Yes, Snyder should shoot more shirtless scenes for the sequel.

Probably won't happen. t:

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

I would be pissed if I got into peak human condition and the director shot me for 3 takes of 10 seconds each and then told I could stop my regimen. I would go incredulously go "That's it? Are you sure you don't want to shoot more?"

Cavill is fortunate his shirtless scene still made such a huge impact on audiences. So his effort was at least worth it.

Well, that's sort of how it is in the movie industry. There's a lot of wasted material (e.g., art concepts, film footage, food, etc.). They play around with this and that, and ultimately just go with what they feel works best.

As for the scene with Cavill, I think, in general, Snyder chose the best of the best shots for use in his film. He knew what he was doing.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Probably won't happen. t:

I doubt it as well but a girl can still wish.

 

[Anita18]

Does anyone here remember one poster on the Hype who, back when when they were still casting Superman, matter-of-factly said in the casting threads that Cavill wouldn't get the part because he was gay?

That kind of came out of nowhere and I remember thinking that if it was true, it might actually have cost him the role - which would have upset me even at the time because the pictures and footage I'd seen of Henry showed just how much he looked like Superman. Hollywood might have a reputation as a liberal mecca, but it can be quite conservative in some ways.

I don't know if there were ever rumours going around about Cavill's sexuality, but it's quite ironic given that Henry has given us what I consider the manliest Superman yet (not saying gay men are effeminate, just that that's how your average homophobe might view it).

Edit: I know Henry was previously engaged and is now dating Gina Carano, just wanted to know if anybody else ever heard someone say this.

Some gossip mags note that his recent relationships have been conveniently timed, but really, that's his business.

Nobody can beat Matt Bomer's coming out party though. That was EPIC.

Haha it doesn't work that way on the internet. Trust me i know a good deal about this stuff he was not anywhere near 5% bodyfat. You'd have seen a lot of striations and the like and none of that was visible, not to mention his abs weren't hugely visible.

Take a look at this chart:

Cavill is somewhere i'd estimate between 8-10% closer to 10% like i'd gauged earlier. Also remember mass doesn't have much to do with how high or low your body fat % is.

I agree - 3% total body fat would mean you're close to death. You do need some fat around your insides.

3% subcutaneous body fat (the stuff just under your skin) would be more doable, but you'd still look like a freak. Henry was jacked, but he didn't look to be at an unhealthy body fat percentage.

 

[Lencho01]

I doubt it as well but a girl can still wish.

It seems that the superheroes who are known for their strength and/or physique always have the actor be shirtless to "prove" that they're that strong. Then, in the sequels they don't show them anymore and the actor doesn't have to become as big. And maybe the actor isn't all that comfortable being shirtless anyway.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It seems that the superheroes who are known for their strength and/or physique always have the actor be shirtless to "prove" that they're that strong. Then, in the sequels they don't show them anymore and the actor doesn't have to become as big. And maybe the actor isn't all that comfortable being shirtless anyway.

That's true and too bad because I'm always comfortable watching them being shirtless.

 

[Lencho01]

That's true and too bad because I'm always comfortable watching them being shirtless.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

It seems that the superheroes who are known for their strength and/or physique always have the actor be shirtless to "prove" that they're that strong. Then, in the sequels they don't show them anymore and the actor doesn't have to become as big. And maybe the actor isn't all that comfortable being shirtless anyway.

There are other scenes in the film where he looks pretty diesel even with his shirt on though; so, it would be kind of weird if he wasn't in good shape for the sequel.

 

[Lencho01]

There are other scenes in the film where he looks pretty diesel even with his shirt on though; so, it would be kind of weird if he wasn't in good shape for the sequel.

I doubt he'll be in bad shape. Just not as big and/or defined.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

He did look great even with shirts on, believe me I couldn't take my eyes off the screen. He seems very commited, I wouldn't rule out him getting in that kind of shape for part 2. I don't mean the shape in the shirtless scenes.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

I found his performance pretty average.

My wife says Cavill is one of those guys who look good from the distance but as soon as you start to take a close look at his face you notice that he's ugly. LOL. I don't really care.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I might have to update my ignore list.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

 

[Glassjaw]

Interesting interview linked by the Mos FB fan page today, with Clay Enos the official photographer for the film whose worked with Synder before. He was the one who took that topless pic of Cavill on set,with WB intentionally leaking it as a candid photo.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I always believed that studios leaked photos. As for that photo in particular, they would have been stupid not to leak it.

 

[Noach]

I love like how he looks like your average all american lumberjack with the beard and all.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Don't worry Turambar, this keeps the ladies quiet.

Michael Bolton.